Fat Pets

oriondw

user not active
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
2,039
Likes
1
Points
0
#2
Pets just like owners :D

I dont know why people would overfeed themselves and their pets... Maybe some kind of self-destruction problem within themselves?
 

Debi

Moderator
Joined
May 19, 2004
Messages
15,731
Likes
0
Points
0
#3
I feel the same sadness when I see an obese pet, as I do obese people. is it some kind of horrible prejudice..NO...it's a plain and simple health issue. I didn't like the 'Gerber baby'..indicating chubbiness was healthy...and I still will keep to my thinking that lean is better. for people..for pets. I have a friend that feeds her dog total garbage...'to make her bigger'...geez. want a BIG dog, get a BIG breed. you love your family..you make sure the proper food is on the table. you love your pet...you do the same. I have no 'grey' areas here...overfeeding is an absolute NO..it isn't 'love'..it's abuse.

hehehe...seems I have a tiny little soapbox here today. ok..I'm bored again. :)
 

Boxer*Mom

It wasn't me
Joined
Aug 29, 2005
Messages
1,740
Likes
0
Points
0
Age
41
Location
Georgia, U.S.
#4
Any owner can control his pet's weight by realizing that food is not a substitute for attention or a cure for guilt and that the concept of "tough love" can and should be applied to the relationship.
An owner who cannot resist Fluffy's soft, pleading eyes whenever food enters the vicinity is an owner contributing to Fluffy's obesity and may even be shortening her life.
An owner who cannot rouse himself for a few hours each week to make sure that Singer gets enough exercise is an owner contributing to Singer's obesity and may even be shortening his life.

Some weight control strategies

Owners can take the situation in hand right now to prevent obesity in their dogs:

1. First, assess the dog's condition. If he appears underweight, take him to the veterinarian for a physical exam to determine the cause and extent of the problem. If he appears overweight, have him checked as well and examine both feeding and exercise programs.
2. Feed appropriate snacks. If you can't resist offering Muffin an evening gnosh, try carrot sticks, unbuttered popcorn, orange or apple slices, pretzels, seedless grapes, or bits of banana instead of potato chips, pizza, or ice cream. Cut back a bit on meals if you just can't say no to those pleading eyes.
3. Provide some opportunity for prolonged exercise a couple of times a week. Long walks, play session, or strenuous training sessions help keep muscles in shape and bodies functioning. Time alone in a yard is not sufficient; although dogs will run fence lines if a person or animal happens by, they are generally as lazy as people and will not run for the sake of exercise. Two dogs, however, will usually run, romp, and play together and thus exercise each other.
4. Watch the fat content in the food you buy. Fats are energy sources; if the energy isn't expended, fats merely add unneeded calories. Fat content of dry food should range between 12-16 percent, with sedentary dogs getting a lower percentage than active or performance dogs.
5. Watch the supplements you use. Some veterinarians, breeders and trainers recommend adding a tablespoon or two of vegetable oil to the kibble if the dog has a dry coat or skin, but this probably only adds unnecessary calories. It's better for the dog to use a food with sufficient Omega fatty acids or even to supplement with Vitamin E. Owners should keep in mind that dry skin and coat or itchiness can be caused by allergies that have nothing to do with diet; if the dog scratches a lot and does not have fleas, a
visit to the veterinarian is in order.
6. If you have a puppy, get off on the right dietary footing. Feed a premium food two-to-three times a day.
7. Pick up the bowl in 15 minutes even if he doesn't lick it clean. Keep your pup a bit thin, especially if his breed is subject to skeletal disorders such as hip dysplasia or knee and elbow problems. Discontinue puppy food before six months of age to keep his rate of growth under control.
8. Don't leave the pup or dog alone with the kids at snack time; the dog is likely to feast on anything the kid doesn't want as well as lots he does want. Separating kids and dogs at snack time eliminates battles over food that can end when dog bites child.
9. Keep the garbage out of the dog's reach to avoid stealing, and if your dog is a food thief, keep food off the counters as well.
10. If your dog has a slight weight problem, reducing his regular ration by a bit or switching to a food for less active dogs may do the trick. However, if he's considerably overweight -- or you suspect that he is -- don't embark on a reduction plan without consulting a vet. This is especially important for owners of small dogs; the under-20-pounds gang may experience complications from reducing diets because they
tend to have a high metabolic rate and to dissipate heat rapidly, factors which can result in too-rapid weight loss.
 

RD

Are you dead yet?
Joined
Aug 1, 2004
Messages
15,572
Likes
0
Points
0
Age
34
Location
Ohio
#5
I agree. I show my pets love by snuggling them, taking them for walks, spoiling them with toys and spending time with them. I love them and want to have them around as long as possible, so I keep them in good shape.

I don't understand how some people can see their animal getting fat and do nothing about it.
 

bonster

Disappointed :(
Joined
Dec 29, 2004
Messages
622
Likes
0
Points
0
#6
This was all over the (Brit) news today and one feature pointed to a website www.pet-slimmers.com (dated 2003/2004) which seems to have a link to a dog food co... and guess what... "All of the consultations and tests directly related to the weight problem are free-of charge. In addition, you also get the first bag of the prescription diet free! "

Guess its got a push with the new 'overweight' figures coming out...

I agree with the comments above - feed properly and give exercise - not too hard :confused: unless there is an underlying medical condition
 

Fran27

Active Member
Joined
Mar 15, 2005
Messages
10,642
Likes
0
Points
36
Age
46
Location
New Jersey
#7
Oriondw, I'm a bit shocked that you're comparing obese people to pets. No, all fat people don't overfeed themselves, it's just that sometimes they body requirements are so small that except from vegetables or salad about anything would be 'overfeeding' themselves. But you're probably a slim person who just thinks that fat people just eat like pigs... My metabolism sucks and even though I eat more healthy than lots of people out there, I'm overweight, and I don't really appreciate people saying I am 'overfeeding' myself, when I really am not.

That being said, I do agree that if you loved your pet you wouldn't let them get fat. But I guess it's the same people who give their kids hotdogs, mac and cheese or fries every night. I just think that if you're responsible of someone you should do what's best for their health... even a dog.
 

oriondw

user not active
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
2,039
Likes
1
Points
0
#8
Fran27 said:
Oriondw, I'm a bit shocked that you're comparing obese people to pets. No, all fat people don't overfeed themselves, it's just that sometimes they body requirements are so small that except from vegetables or salad about anything would be 'overfeeding' themselves. But you're probably a slim person who just thinks that fat people just eat like pigs... My metabolism sucks and even though I eat more healthy than lots of people out there, I'm overweight, and I don't really appreciate people saying I am 'overfeeding' myself, when I really am not.

That being said, I do agree that if you loved your pet you wouldn't let them get fat. But I guess it's the same people who give their kids hotdogs, mac and cheese or fries every night. I just think that if you're responsible of someone you should do what's best for their health... even a dog.
I was joking actually, but now that you mention it...

Its simple math, if you burn less calories then you intake you gain weight.
If you burn more then you loose weight.

I know its not your fault that the food here is mediocre in quality full of additives, etc. Still I have no problems with weight control.

Dont blame gene's, they do play a role but not to extent heavy people play it out to be.

p.s.
I studied nutrition/ personal fitness for few years when I was into heavy weight lifting. So i guess i know how to loose/gain weight. And gaining weight for a thing person, is helluva harder then loosing weight for a big person.
 
R

RedyreRottweilers

Guest
#9
I do not, nor will I ever, have obese dogs.

Sometimes it's much harder with the older dogs who don't need as much to stay fit as they used to.

I have to watch my husband like a hawk, most of the time I do not let him portion their food because he ALWAYS overfeeds them.

I examine body condition on each of my dogs once a week when I have them on the grooming table, and note whether they are just right, on the fluffy side, or on the lean side, and I adjust their food amounts accordingly.

I am just really picky about condition. Just like us, it's harder for them to lose it when they get older, so I keep them the RIGHT weight. :D
 

PixieSticksandTricks

Athletic Labs. They Exist
Joined
Dec 21, 2005
Messages
10,799
Likes
0
Points
0
Age
35
Location
Ohio
#10
Pixie was VERY overweight when we first adopted her. But I walk alot with her and she has has lost alot of weight. She is still alittle chubby but not as bad as she was.
 
Joined
Feb 5, 2005
Messages
6,125
Likes
0
Points
0
#11
My dogs are all at healthy weights. If they need to lose a pound or two, I up the exercise and they usually lose it pretty quickly.
 

Ash47

Taco Dog
Joined
Jan 20, 2005
Messages
3,069
Likes
0
Points
36
Location
Deep South
#13
Precious and Spud don't have problems with weight. It's Roxy that loves eating. I also have to watch my husband Redyre. If I don't, Roxy will get 5 or 6 Doritos and some Mac n Cheese. Yea, that stuff is ok every once in a blue moon... but not often.
Chihuahuas are not supposed to be over 6lbs. Does anyone that does not have a Chi know how hard that is to maintain? LOL Especially when they love food this much. :rolleyes:
 

Fran27

Active Member
Joined
Mar 15, 2005
Messages
10,642
Likes
0
Points
36
Age
46
Location
New Jersey
#14
oriondw said:
I know its not your fault that the food here is mediocre in quality full of additives, etc. Still I have no problems with weight control.

Dont blame gene's, they do play a role but not to extent heavy people play it out to be.

p.s.
I studied nutrition/ personal fitness for few years when I was into heavy weight lifting. So i guess i know how to loose/gain weight. And gaining weight for a thing person, is helluva harder then loosing weight for a big person.
Great for you, but I don't think your system only burns 1300 calories a day like mine does. And when you have breathing problems and can't afford the gym, there's not so much you can do.

But again, when I see a thin person eat twice what I do and not take a pound (without that much excercise either), it's hard to believe that your metabolism doesn't play an important role.
 

joce

Active Member
Joined
Jan 3, 2005
Messages
4,448
Likes
0
Points
36
Age
40
Location
Ohio
#15
My corgi has had problems with her weight. The only thing that keeps it down is swimming in the summer. So she has her winter weight right now:eek:

My metabolism is screwed from me being a dumbass when I was younger and not eating. I could eat an apple a day and not loose any weight. I did this to myself but plenty of people are born like that. I would assume it is possible in dogs to. I have heard of cats that have bene on diets for years and nothing helps. I'd be more interested in them than overweight dogs.
 
T

tessa_s212

Guest
#16
All of my dogs have gotten a bit plumper this winter, but we have got probably three dogs that I do consider fat. I can't do anything about my siblings' dog's weight, but I do manage Cocoa's to make sure she stays reasonable.
 

BigDog2191

Big German Shepherd
Joined
Jan 26, 2005
Messages
3,749
Likes
0
Points
0
Location
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
#17
Fran27 said:
Great for you, but I don't think your system only burns 1300 calories a day like mine does. And when you have breathing problems and can't afford the gym, there's not so much you can do.

But again, when I see a thin person eat twice what I do and not take a pound (without that much excercise either), it's hard to believe that your metabolism doesn't play an important role.
Exactly... I look at a coke the wrong way and gain 5 pounds. I see my friend eat like 3 boxes of donuts and he's lost 5 pounds. It's stupid when people say stuff like that when you can see it happening before your eyes.
 

Athebeau

New Member
Joined
Aug 1, 2005
Messages
663
Likes
0
Points
0
#18
I can't believe the people really don't think treats have any calories:rolleyes:

One man with a Golden that looks like a coffee table couldn't understand why his dog was so fat. As he complained I counted 15 treats that he popped into the dogs mouth. I asked him how many treats the dog gets a day...he said oh whenever he wants...but, he only gets 2 small meals a day...he was still confused.:confused:
 

smkie

pointer/labrador/terrier
Joined
Dec 16, 2004
Messages
55,184
Likes
35
Points
48
#20
even 10 pounds increases the risk of cancer by a measurable margian..that is what the vet told me..and for breeds like Victor is a sentence of joint damage
 

Members online

No members online now.
Top