Diary of using a new method to cure my aggressive dog.
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Often lack of responce will give you your answer. As for paying for a lesson in non-emotional dog training, I won't be.
The best way to work with any animal is a calm cool head. Praise should be honest, and if you use any correction at all it should have no emotion behind it. When I tell Tusme "no", I am not enraged with his behavior and steaming at the ears, I am calmly communicating that his behavior/action was unacceptable.
A master/leader who is under contol is a stable and healthy role model for the animal/s under them. The Ceaser
coins it as being calm/assertive. Many in the postive training world say don't train when angry or frustrated. I simply belive a calm handler will be better recived by the dog at the end of the lead. This makes training go smoother and helps when dealing with behavior issues as well.
The best way to work with any animal is a calm cool head. Praise should be honest, and if you use any correction at all it should have no emotion behind it. When I tell Tusme "no", I am not enraged with his behavior and steaming at the ears, I am calmly communicating that his behavior/action was unacceptable.
A master/leader who is under contol is a stable and healthy role model for the animal/s under them. The Ceaser
coins it as being calm/assertive. Many in the postive training world say don't train when angry or frustrated. I simply belive a calm handler will be better recived by the dog at the end of the lead. This makes training go smoother and helps when dealing with behavior issues as well.
Is that what it said...that this "trainer" trains without emotion? LOL. How dull it must be for the dogs. I have lots of emotion and so do my dogs. I couldn't fake them out if I tried. They'd see right through me. :red_bandana:
I agree that anger and exasperation has no place in training. But no emotions? My dogs are no stranger to my emotions. I have ups and downs, frustrations and goofy times, just like most humans. I think most dogs have evolved enough to be able to be cool with some of our emotions.
I agree that anger and exasperation has no place in training. But no emotions? My dogs are no stranger to my emotions. I have ups and downs, frustrations and goofy times, just like most humans. I think most dogs have evolved enough to be able to be cool with some of our emotions.
From the website:
So..... did the trainer approve of you staying "dominant" to your dog while you were supposed to be trying his technique?
Plus, there are five videos on the home page, none of which feature dogs.
So..... did the trainer approve of you staying "dominant" to your dog while you were supposed to be trying his technique?
Plus, there are five videos on the home page, none of which feature dogs.
Lizzybeth...nice catch. I forgot about that previous post and the connection (or opposite of connection) to the nice speech in the website. RFOLOL!!!!!:rofl1::rofl1::rofl1:
Maybe we misinterrpeted something. ? Maybe the OP will come back to the thread to explain. (but somehow I have a sneaky feeling that ain't gonna happen.)
Maybe we misinterrpeted something. ? Maybe the OP will come back to the thread to explain. (but somehow I have a sneaky feeling that ain't gonna happen.)
Lizzybeth...nice catch. I forgot about that previous post and the connection (or opposite of connection) to the nice speech in the website. RFOLOL!!!!!:rofl1::rofl1::rofl1:
Maybe we misinterrpeted something. ? Maybe the OP will come back to the thread to explain. (but somehow I have a sneaky feeling that ain't gonna happen.)
Maybe we misinterrpeted something. ? Maybe the OP will come back to the thread to explain. (but somehow I have a sneaky feeling that ain't gonna happen.)
Wouldn't be the first time now would it? LOL
That website is stamped with 2010........and so are all the videos posted. Could be it's something they are just now throwing together and need some more input on dogs since I don't see any on the site yet, ROFL
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Thanks Doberluv.
If you go back to the page and read under the 'Sign up for free' section. It explains that if you sign up in the box to the right, you will be able to see the work we are doing.
By this, you get an email which allows you to go to the classroom and videos part of the site and view information. I went there and there are audio and step by step guides as to what to do and then introductory videos of the technique working.
Not sure why you are still confused by what this guy is trying to acheive? Take a look at the snippet videos just above the sign up box. They are really informative and show the technique working well.
The first £10 of the £12 money funds James to do the work (e.g. the travel to my house, the time spent there, getting people to film the work he does.)....and then you can choose to give the other £2 to a rescue centre of your choice i gather?
(You can also make money using an affiliate link!)
I have signed up for free and you can unsubscribe at any time so go ahead and give it a go. I do believe that this is something very new....as i say, i am still waiting to find out for myself.
My user name? Yes it is about the technique. It's my first time on forums, i chose a user name which relates to why i am signing up. Trust me or not....it's your decision? I only care for the people that may see some benefit in what i am doing. If you disagree with any of it, then that's fine, stop reading.
In conclusion, sign up for free, have a look, get more information. If you don't like it, unsubscribe. There is no limited time to view it....you can stay subscribed as a free member for as long as you want. If you do like it and want to get even more information and help James, subscribe i guess.
Any other questions that need answering?
MotherTrust.
If you go back to the page and read under the 'Sign up for free' section. It explains that if you sign up in the box to the right, you will be able to see the work we are doing.
By this, you get an email which allows you to go to the classroom and videos part of the site and view information. I went there and there are audio and step by step guides as to what to do and then introductory videos of the technique working.
Not sure why you are still confused by what this guy is trying to acheive? Take a look at the snippet videos just above the sign up box. They are really informative and show the technique working well.
The first £10 of the £12 money funds James to do the work (e.g. the travel to my house, the time spent there, getting people to film the work he does.)....and then you can choose to give the other £2 to a rescue centre of your choice i gather?
(You can also make money using an affiliate link!)
I have signed up for free and you can unsubscribe at any time so go ahead and give it a go. I do believe that this is something very new....as i say, i am still waiting to find out for myself.
My user name? Yes it is about the technique. It's my first time on forums, i chose a user name which relates to why i am signing up. Trust me or not....it's your decision? I only care for the people that may see some benefit in what i am doing. If you disagree with any of it, then that's fine, stop reading.
In conclusion, sign up for free, have a look, get more information. If you don't like it, unsubscribe. There is no limited time to view it....you can stay subscribed as a free member for as long as you want. If you do like it and want to get even more information and help James, subscribe i guess.
Any other questions that need answering?
MotherTrust.
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Just read the posts on this page also.
No the trainer did not approve of this dominance. I did post a couple of pages back an apology to how i have worded and been far too excited to explain anything properly.
I also stated that i had not listened to the first explanation of this technique but now that i have taken a step back and re-read through it. I can see where i went wrong and that in the next session, i should listen more to James and more progress will be made.
This was session 1 of a few. James was assesing how i act around my dogs. He needed to see the problem. The problem is obviously me as much as the dog. He explained that to me and now i can see more clearly.
By the way, if you sign up, they are actually in the progress of working with a whippet cross at the moment called Bodie. The first video is up and the others are in editing.
As for you who are unwilling to believe that i am who i say i am, well take no more notice in these posts as they won't help you out. If your dogs have no problems, then this information might not be any help to you.
I would like to think that some people are more reasonable and trusting....after all, this is what the technique is all about.
MotherTrust.
No the trainer did not approve of this dominance. I did post a couple of pages back an apology to how i have worded and been far too excited to explain anything properly.
I also stated that i had not listened to the first explanation of this technique but now that i have taken a step back and re-read through it. I can see where i went wrong and that in the next session, i should listen more to James and more progress will be made.
This was session 1 of a few. James was assesing how i act around my dogs. He needed to see the problem. The problem is obviously me as much as the dog. He explained that to me and now i can see more clearly.
By the way, if you sign up, they are actually in the progress of working with a whippet cross at the moment called Bodie. The first video is up and the others are in editing.
As for you who are unwilling to believe that i am who i say i am, well take no more notice in these posts as they won't help you out. If your dogs have no problems, then this information might not be any help to you.
I would like to think that some people are more reasonable and trusting....after all, this is what the technique is all about.
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^^^ Same thought.
Case rested. MT, you are referring to yourself in the highlighted portions.
As a matter of fact, yes.
1. Are you ... in ANY way, shape or form .... a business partner with this "James" person?
2. Are you, "Mother" Trust, actually James himself?
3. Do you now or do you expect in the future to make any money whatsoever from the endeavor which you are heavily promoting here?
4. Would you be willing to direct people to the Chazhound forum site from your web page ... in case your customers are in need of FREE training advice? (Of course, adding any needed disclaimer on that direction that Chaz does not in any way, shape or form endorse your training method.)
You invited any further questions. Anticipating your prompt, direct, and honest answers to the above four. Thank you.
Case rested.
MT, you are referring to yourself in the highlighted portions. As a matter of fact, yes.
1. Are you ... in ANY way, shape or form .... a business partner with this "James" person?
2. Are you, "Mother" Trust, actually James himself?
3. Do you now or do you expect in the future to make any money whatsoever from the endeavor which you are heavily promoting here?
4. Would you be willing to direct people to the Chazhound forum site from your web page ... in case your customers are in need of FREE training advice? (Of course, adding any needed disclaimer on that direction that Chaz does not in any way, shape or form endorse your training method.)
You invited any further questions. Anticipating your prompt, direct, and honest answers to the above four. Thank you.
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Qoute: Originally Posted by ACooper View Post
Or.......MAYBE the OP is milking advice from you good trainers here on chaz to use on his website, pass it off as his own and charge people to get the info you freely give here.
^^^ Same thought.
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If you go back to the page and read under the 'Sign up for free' section. It explains that if you sign up in the box to the right, you will be able to see the work we are doing.
Quoted form the site directly: We would hate you to miss out on discovering the Trust Technique because of money! So, we have made it possible for you to become a free member. This will give you access to see the work that WE are doing!
You obviously did not go to the site itself and read the first few lines.
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Originally Posted by MotherTrust View Post
My user name? Yes it is about the technique.
Are you trying to promote Golden Retrievers?
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Originally Posted by MotherTrust View Post
I only care for the people that may see some benefit in what i am doing.
What i am doing.
I am providing people with dogs who may have behavioural problems and giving them information about a new technique on the market. I am doing this through using a diary. I did not wish to send any information out until i have seen that the method works however, i decided to let you see so you can make your own mind up.
Case rested. MT, you are referring to yourself in the highlighted portions.
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Any other questions that need answering?
As a matter of fact, yes.
1. Are you ... in ANY way, shape or form .... a business partner with this "James" person?
No, he was introduced to me through a friend due to my dog with a behavioural problem.
2. Are you, "Mother" Trust, actually James himself?
Please read the answer above.
3. Do you now or do you expect in the future to make any money whatsoever from the endeavor which you are heavily promoting here?
That would be a question to as James which i will happily ask him for you. I think however that he is more willing to help animals rather than make money. The money (also explained on the site) helps him to get to these animals in need and helps other rescue centres.
4. Would you be willing to direct people to the Chazhound forum site from your web page ... in case your customers are in need of FREE training advice? (Of course, adding any needed disclaimer on that direction that Chaz does not in any way, shape or form endorse your training method.)
James does give free advice. Once again, sign up and you can learn most of this technique for free.
You invited any further questions. Anticipating your prompt, direct, and honest answers to the above four. Thank you.
Hopefully you are now fully informed from the above answers.
MotherTrust.
Or.......MAYBE the OP is milking advice from you good trainers here on chaz to use on his website, pass it off as his own and charge people to get the info you freely give here.
^^^ Same thought.
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Originally Posted by MotherTrust View Post
If you go back to the page and read under the 'Sign up for free' section. It explains that if you sign up in the box to the right, you will be able to see the work we are doing.
Quoted form the site directly: We would hate you to miss out on discovering the Trust Technique because of money! So, we have made it possible for you to become a free member. This will give you access to see the work that WE are doing!
You obviously did not go to the site itself and read the first few lines.
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Originally Posted by MotherTrust View Post
My user name? Yes it is about the technique.
Are you trying to promote Golden Retrievers?
Quote:
Originally Posted by MotherTrust View Post
I only care for the people that may see some benefit in what i am doing.
What i am doing.
I am providing people with dogs who may have behavioural problems and giving them information about a new technique on the market. I am doing this through using a diary. I did not wish to send any information out until i have seen that the method works however, i decided to let you see so you can make your own mind up.
Case rested. MT, you are referring to yourself in the highlighted portions.
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Originally Posted by MotherTrust View Post
Any other questions that need answering?
As a matter of fact, yes.
1. Are you ... in ANY way, shape or form .... a business partner with this "James" person?
No, he was introduced to me through a friend due to my dog with a behavioural problem.
2. Are you, "Mother" Trust, actually James himself?
Please read the answer above.
3. Do you now or do you expect in the future to make any money whatsoever from the endeavor which you are heavily promoting here?
That would be a question to as James which i will happily ask him for you. I think however that he is more willing to help animals rather than make money. The money (also explained on the site) helps him to get to these animals in need and helps other rescue centres.
4. Would you be willing to direct people to the Chazhound forum site from your web page ... in case your customers are in need of FREE training advice? (Of course, adding any needed disclaimer on that direction that Chaz does not in any way, shape or form endorse your training method.)
James does give free advice. Once again, sign up and you can learn most of this technique for free.
You invited any further questions. Anticipating your prompt, direct, and honest answers to the above four. Thank you.
Hopefully you are now fully informed from the above answers.
MotherTrust.
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First, please learn to use quoting. It's really not difficult, but I must say it will be rather difficult sorting through your incorrectly quoted latest post.
There's that "we" again. Intentional or unintentional? "We", unless it's the generic "royal we", tends to strongly suggest an association ... one that goes beyond merely being a satisfied customer.
Thank you for your question. But no, as a matter of fact I wish they were far less popular. Too many people owning the same breed leads to over-breeding, along with its associated potential problems such as health issues.
My user name refers to my having owned "The" Golden Retriever (as least in my estimation ... but as well as the estimation of many who also had the distinct pleasure to have known her.) It is a bit tongue-in-cheek though, as I realize many of us feel the same about our own lovely and well-trained, well-behaved, and admired dogs ... regardless of breed.
Then why not have the money collection in a separate area and call it a "donation" ... and make it entirely voluntary?
No thank you. I'm quite happy here.
On this site I was able to read anything for quite some time before "signing up" and giving an email address. This way I was able to completely evaluate the site for itself, before deciding to join. I very much prefer that honest and open approach. Sites that require "signing up" before being allowed to access all content send up red flags. Proponents of a site (especially a new site) going around to multiple forums in aggressive "recruiting" efforts sends up even more red flags.
Not exactly. You dodged Question 3, though not very artfully. I wasn't asking if James was making money in any way from the endeavor ... I asked if YOU were making money in ANY way ... or if you anticipate doing so in the near or distant future. Do you get some kind of money percentage or other "perks" from recruiting people to "sign up"? You do seem to be heavily recruiting, and not just here.
It's really not difficult, but I must say it will be rather difficult sorting through your incorrectly quoted latest post. There's that "we" again. Intentional or unintentional? "We", unless it's the generic "royal we", tends to strongly suggest an association ... one that goes beyond merely being a satisfied customer.
Thank you for your question. But no, as a matter of fact I wish they were far less popular. Too many people owning the same breed leads to over-breeding, along with its associated potential problems such as health issues.
My user name refers to my having owned "The" Golden Retriever (as least in my estimation ... but as well as the estimation of many who also had the distinct pleasure to have known her.) It is a bit tongue-in-cheek though, as I realize many of us feel the same about our own lovely and well-trained, well-behaved, and admired dogs ... regardless of breed.
Then why not have the money collection in a separate area and call it a "donation" ... and make it entirely voluntary?
No thank you. I'm quite happy here.
On this site I was able to read anything for quite some time before "signing up" and giving an email address. This way I was able to completely evaluate the site for itself, before deciding to join. I very much prefer that honest and open approach. Sites that require "signing up" before being allowed to access all content send up red flags. Proponents of a site (especially a new site) going around to multiple forums in aggressive "recruiting" efforts sends up even more red flags.
Not exactly. You dodged Question 3, though not very artfully. I wasn't asking if James was making money in any way from the endeavor ... I asked if YOU were making money in ANY way ... or if you anticipate doing so in the near or distant future. Do you get some kind of money percentage or other "perks" from recruiting people to "sign up"? You do seem to be heavily recruiting, and not just here.
I'm certainly not interested in signing up. (I can't do videos on this dial up....takes too long) I DO use trust techniques and am very successful with the dogs I work with and rehabilitate. I have no behavior problems in my dogs to speak of and I spend too much time gabbing with my Chaz family here. So, thanks for the invite, but you know the saying..."If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Hope you get the results you seek from whatever it is you're doing. Good luck!
Hope you get the results you seek from whatever it is you're doing. Good luck!
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First, please learn to use quoting. It's really not difficult, but I must say it will be rather difficult sorting through your incorrectly quoted latest post.
Like i said, I am new to forums. Maybe you could let me know how to quote certain references at once? Thanks.
There's that "we" again. Intentional or unintentional? "We", unless it's the generic "royal we", tends to strongly suggest an association ... one that goes beyond merely being a satisfied customer.
Ok, my wording obviously confused you from the original paragraph. I was trying to quote from the website and use it in it's original context. If you had a look at the website, you may see where i am coming from.
Then why not have the money collection in a separate area and call it a "donation" ... and make it entirely voluntary?
A voluntary donation would be great....but you don't get anything back from this apart from the assurance that you have done your good deed for the day. However, if you sign up you can get so much back including learning the technique, watching videos of James's work, interacting with other people and much more i should think....you can see what your money is doing which is what i love about this idea.
No thank you. I'm quite happy here.
That's fine then. Choose to ignore this thread because it's may not be of any use to you.
On this site I was able to read anything for quite some time before "signing up" and giving an email address. This way I was able to completely evaluate the site for itself, before deciding to join. I very much prefer that honest and open approach. Sites that require "signing up" before being allowed to access all content send up red flags. Proponents of a site (especially a new site) going around to multiple forums in aggressive "recruiting" efforts sends up even more red flags.
I signed up. I have got nothing more than a couple of emails confirming my sign up and i now have access to alot more content. I can choose to unsubscribe at any time. And i will do if i do not see that this method could work.
Not exactly. You dodged Question 3, though not very artfully. I wasn't asking if James was making money in any way from the endeavor ... I asked if YOU were making money in ANY way ... or if you anticipate doing so in the near or distant future. Do you get some kind of money percentage or other "perks" from recruiting people to "sign up"? You do seem to be heavily recruiting, and not just here.
It's really not difficult, but I must say it will be rather difficult sorting through your incorrectly quoted latest post. Like i said, I am new to forums. Maybe you could let me know how to quote certain references at once? Thanks.
There's that "we" again. Intentional or unintentional? "We", unless it's the generic "royal we", tends to strongly suggest an association ... one that goes beyond merely being a satisfied customer.
Ok, my wording obviously confused you from the original paragraph. I was trying to quote from the website and use it in it's original context. If you had a look at the website, you may see where i am coming from.
Then why not have the money collection in a separate area and call it a "donation" ... and make it entirely voluntary?
A voluntary donation would be great....but you don't get anything back from this apart from the assurance that you have done your good deed for the day. However, if you sign up you can get so much back including learning the technique, watching videos of James's work, interacting with other people and much more i should think....you can see what your money is doing which is what i love about this idea.
No thank you. I'm quite happy here.
That's fine then. Choose to ignore this thread because it's may not be of any use to you.
On this site I was able to read anything for quite some time before "signing up" and giving an email address. This way I was able to completely evaluate the site for itself, before deciding to join. I very much prefer that honest and open approach. Sites that require "signing up" before being allowed to access all content send up red flags. Proponents of a site (especially a new site) going around to multiple forums in aggressive "recruiting" efforts sends up even more red flags.
I signed up. I have got nothing more than a couple of emails confirming my sign up and i now have access to alot more content. I can choose to unsubscribe at any time. And i will do if i do not see that this method could work.
Not exactly. You dodged Question 3, though not very artfully. I wasn't asking if James was making money in any way from the endeavor ... I asked if YOU were making money in ANY way ... or if you anticipate doing so in the near or distant future. Do you get some kind of money percentage or other "perks" from recruiting people to "sign up"? You do seem to be heavily recruiting, and not just here.
All you spammers have certain things in common you know. You think we are a bunch of morons and that's your first mistake, LOL
You think everyone here hasn't seen spam before? Hasn't seen the likes of YOU? Pahleeeeeeeeeeeese........don't give yourself so much credit buddy. We were laughing our butts off from your intro thread.
Now run along, find a forum who might fall for your crap........good luck with that though because Chazhound is a far reaching place
You think everyone here hasn't seen spam before? Hasn't seen the likes of YOU? Pahleeeeeeeeeeeese........don't give yourself so much credit buddy. We were laughing our butts off from your intro thread.
Now run along, find a forum who might fall for your crap........good luck with that though because Chazhound is a far reaching place
