Chochi attacked my mom.

Tahla9999

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Now, this is going to be long, and it is going to be a confession. Chochi did not just ''turn'' on my mom, we knew for a long time that we were living with an unstable dog. It was inevitable, we knew it, but we were blinded. Blinded by the love for this dog. We did not want to give him up for we knew what would happen to him if we did. He was a part of the family.

It all began in a year and a half ago with my dad bringing in a puppy that he said his coworkers were selling for free. The guy selling the puppies said it was a chow, but as the months go by it clearly wasn't a chow. At least, not purbred. We were excited nonetheless. I loved dogs back then, but only had basic knowledge of them, and I was immediately suspicious on getting a free puppy from unknown parents. And chows were the last breed on my mind and we had no knowledge about them. I was soon won by the cuteness of the puppy and set aside my fears. The only weird thing I notice about this puppy was that it did not like being the center of attention. Instead, it just stood there. It took some time before it started exploring the house.

Anyways, when we took the little fluff ball outside for the first time, he saw a man coming out of his car, and quickly stiffen. I thought that was weird, but again, I just thought it was him being protective( yet he was so young, like 7 or 8 weeks old, too young for him to be showing this behavior).

So as the days go by, he started being reactive to strangers. When I walk him on the leash and pass by someone, he'd stiffen, growl, and sometimes bark. When I took him to pet supplies( asking around for a trainer) an employee came near him with some treats to see his reaction( he was four months at the time). Chochi immediately started growling and staring the employee right in the eye. Even when he was given the treats, he still growled at her. She commented that this was strange for a pup this young to have these issues. We started watching the dog whisperer and taking up his methods on the walking and, after some time, Chochi did got over his reactiveness on walks.

We quickly notice that Chochi was very possession aggressive. Once he claimed it is his, he became quite aggressive with it. The first time we notice was when he was two months old, he went out on the balcony and discovered a trash can. When my bother was trying to get it away from him, he'd growl viciouosly and become something like a wolf. It was very frightening, and I started searching on the computer for a way to stop this. I tried teaching him the leave it command. Bascially, you have to switch his possession with something more better. I started practicing with him with a bone he loved. It seemed like he was progressing, but then one day when he was chewing his bone and I told him to leave it, he dropped it, when I tried picking it up, he attacked my hand. Since he still had his puppy teeth, it didn't puncture, but it left a mark. Form that day on, I was scared to work with him.

As the weeks go by, he had his bad days, and he had his good days. There was a whole month once where he'd steal tissues and get into trash cans and becoming like a wolf around it. It was very scary, but being that my parents were at work at the time, they only heard of it, but not really seen it as much. There were many times when we considered taking him away, but we always decided not to. We loved him, even though we knew he wasn't right. There were long periods of time, like months, when he didn't give a single problem, which made us hope he was magically fixed.

This was one of those times. For months, he didn't give a single problem. Until this week. He started throwing up and pooping a lot. We took a lot of care in waking up in the middle of the night to take him out. Well, in the morning of Wednesday, he threw up once again. This time, he stood over it, protectively.

My mom, needing to clean it up since it was starting to smell, began doing the dog whisperer method of using an object to push him away and take charge over '' your area.''( she is a dog whisperer fanatic) I was across from the scene getting ready for school when all of the sudden I heard a scream. I turn to see Chochi having a hold on my moms arm. She was able to release her hand, but Chochi kept coming and got her again, in the other hand. I grab the closest thing, which was a bookbag, and hit him on the back. He backed away, but was still on high defense. My mom was bleeding terribly from both hands.

My mom ended up going to the hospital, and Chochi was taken by the animal control called from by my sister. This incident finally made us realize that Chochi is just not right in the head. We loved him dearly, but blindly. He was not always like this. 80% of the time, he was an average dog. It was just that 20% that he just change.

He has seven days. The AC said they are going to try to train him, but most likely he will be euthanize. My family is depressed. My mom is saying '' no more dogs.'' I will continue to check on him, because no matter what he did or how long he got, he is still part of the family. We all love him to bits, and I am trying to convince my father if I can be there when it happens. He was always a dog that came back no mater where he run. I want to at least be there with him to show we have not abandon him.
 

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So sad and so heartbreaking, hope you will convince your father and save your family dog. Hope your mom get well soon.
 

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GOSH... how sad. I hate to say it, but THIS is why I despise Dog Whisperer and shows like it. D: What a sad situation for everyone involved.

I really hope your Mom recovers quickly from the bites, and I hope Chochi is at least evaluated by a behaviorist.
 

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I am so terribly terribly sorry. For everyone involved. I too hope you rmom heals quickly. (((((HUGS ))))))):(
 
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I am so sorry you're going through this, Tahla.

You're doing the right thing by insisting on being with him if it comes down to the needle.

Totally agree with Ihartgonzo about programs like Cesar's :rolleyes: I wonder how many situations like this his show contributes to.
 
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Oh no! Thats awful. I am so sorry. :(

Sounds like he was not respecting you guys as alpha AT ALL. And so let me get this right... the Cesar guy recommends pushing an aggressive dog away with an object? WHAT?? What a good way to set an aggressive dog off. Holy cow. :yikes:

You're mom should watch Its Me Or the Dog with Victoria Stilwell instead....
 

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I'm sorry you are having to go through this but living in fear is not a way for you or your dog to live.

Maybe another method of training would have helped,maybe not. You tried is the point. And I have to say you are a far better person than me. I don't think I would have been able to use "gentle" methods. Or I would be in the same position with my husky who was a terror at a young age.

Weather your dad lets you go or not I am sure he knows how much you cared for him. Sometimes it is best to remember the good times.
 

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Have you tried asking your dad if your pet can undergo some behavior training? that's sad...
 

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Him resource guarding his vomit that aggressively (or at all) is very odd to me, and definitely seems like far beyond a training issue. Poor guy sounds like something just isn't communicating correctly inside him. :(

You need not have any guilt in this situation, as it seems that you tried everything you could have, in the correct escalation.
 

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While I don't agree with Cesar at all and think the training methods you used weren't the best, some dogs just simply aren't wired right. He was unstable, and was lucky to have a family that cared about him for the time he had. I'm sorry this happened to you and your family.
 
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I am so sorry. No matter what, when these things happen it is emotionally painful. I hope your mom is better soon. And I wish Chochi a peaceful passing. IMO dogs like this live in mental anguish. Releasing him from his demons is really a kind thing to do for him.
 
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Oh gosh, sooo very sorry this happened to your family!! It's heartbreaking. :(

IMO dogs like this live in mental anguish. Releasing him from his demons is really a kind thing to do for him.
^^^ Agreed.

Not often but some dogs really are just born "wired wrong" ... and they are in continual mental anguish. It's so terribly sad ... wish people would not breed irresponsibly for this reason, among others. Anybody who doesn't have a very clear understanding of what they're doing should not be breeding dogs, period.
 
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Who cares what cesear says, what really was somebody going to do in that situation. Most people don't go to a behavorist, or even know of them. in that situation with a dog guarding vomit, that you need to clean up, when you move him or try to get him to move bad things most likely will happen. Especially if its been building to that point for years. I don't know if the dog was wired right or not, but I am sorry. I had to have my childhood pet put to sleep cause he bit me and my cousins friend on 2 seperate occasions. it was kind of the same situation, we knew something could happen and it did. It didn't make it any easier when it was time though. I cried for a couple days.

I didn't get my next dog for almost 20 years and boy have I done research and learning in that time. Now way I want to make those same mistakes again. I was 10 and not happy, and determined not to have to put another dog to sleep.

I feel for you, but in the end, this is probably the best for you and your dog. Never stop learning though, life has a way of rewarding you, it's just not always obvious.
 
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I am so sorry you're going through this, Tahla.

You're doing the right thing by insisting on being with him if it comes down to the needle.

Totally agree with Ihartgonzo about programs like Cesar's :rolleyes: I wonder how many situations like this his show contributes to.
First, I am so sorry. No matter what, this is a horrible, painful situation and I feel terrible for you, your mom, your family and of course Chochi.

Renee - You just can't imagine the number of bite cases that I go to that are directly attributed to people who mimic Cesar Milan. This is exactly the reason that this man and others like him must be taken off of the air.

Loving people who genuinely want to do the best for their dogs honestly believe that the nonsense he spews is gosbel....and who can blame them.

This is just so sad.:(
 

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