Changing dog "owner" to dog "guardian"

[Xandra]

I own my dogs. Guardian and companion replacing owners is just a bunch of treehugging BS done by AR idiots that happens to fit well into the marketing emotional to get you to buy more BS championed by retailers like petco and petsmart. So hand in hand they skip down the path of this marketing stupidity and we are sure to see more crap marketed to guardians and for our canine companions. I already get mail for the parent and guardian of Booker like I am getting my kid's report card.

I buy dogs. I raise dogs. I breed dogs. I sell dogs. They are not my mute furry children. I may love them but without a doubt they are domestic animals living a pretty rad life with me as their owner.

In context of this dogs vs child thing, if I hit your idiot kid with my car after he darts out into traffic there is a good chance I may be facing jail time. If I hit your dog after he darts out into traffic there is a good chance you will be paying my insurance premium.

No sane person thinks a dog equals a child.

:hail::hail::hail: (though I've never bred or sold a dog).

I'm always totally weirded out by the absurdly different standards with which we treat animals. Dogs are unique individual furbabies, it's terrible to think of them as "property"! Pigs, pwah, let's kill it and fry its skin for snack time.

lol

Laws should have some sort of objectivity written into them. If you want to use gendered pronouns with your pet cow and refer to your guard dog as "it," that's your business. If you aren't at all sentimental about animals, keep them all for utility purposes and refer to them all as "it," that is also your prerogative. None of this "well to me a dog is a child, so your dog is your child too!" NO.

 

[ruffiangirl]

One of my pet peeve is the 'fur baby' saying, NO, they are my dogs, my child is my child. Bristol totally saved my sanity when I wanted a baby and couldn't have one, and was going a little batshit from it, she is my baby girl substitute, BUT she had four feet and walks on them, I do not have a stroller for her, I may dress her occasionally, and put bows in her hair, but she is ultimately still a dog and has boundaries and training, and I own her.

 

[Pops2]

No sane person thinks a dog equals a child.

Key word there. Most AR people are either raving lunatics (I mean genuinely mentally ill), or naive douche bags that support them because they think it helps animals.

 

[Pops2]

:hail::hail::hail: (though I've never bred or sold a dog).

I'm always totally weirded out by the absurdly different standards with which we treat animals. Dogs are unique individual furbabies, it's terrible to think of them as "property"! Pigs, pwah, let's kill it and fry its skin for snack time.

lol

Laws should have some sort of objectivity written into them. If you want to use gendered pronouns with your pet cow and refer to your guard dog as "it," that's your business. If you aren't at all sentimental about animals, keep them all for utility purposes and refer to them all as "it," that is also your prerogative. None of this "well to me a dog is a child, so your dog is your child too!" NO.

Pig skins are the bomb, especially if they have some kind of pepper on them.

 

[Dogdragoness]

Meh. It doesn't really bother me either way. I don't use the term 'owner' a lot but it's not really because it bothers me or anything, it just... doesn't come up that way usually. And despite my username, I don't call myself a 'mom' either unless it's like in joking fashion or light heartedness or whatever. I think guardian is a fine word but I don't see the need to 'promote' such a thing as if being an 'owner' is soooo terrible. I just don't really care what you call yourself.

I call myself my dogs "mom" & OH calls himself their "dad" & me their "mom" I love my dogs like kids & the law can think & call them what ever it likes but that's not how I think of them.

I don't care what anyone thinks ... When I lost Izze I swear it was like losing a human family member ... It hurt that badly, it still hurts but as Andrea said in TWD about the death of her sister "the hurt never goes away, you just make room for it." I believe a piece of me died with her, I just don't feelnlike quite the same person anymore.

 

[Whisper]

I'm one of those people who feels my dogs are friends, family members, and equals in a lot of ways. Millie is my best friend, really.
However, they're not my children, they're not "fur babies," they're my property, and from that I claim all the rights that protect both them and me. Switching the word "owner" to "guardian" sends out deafening AR fanatic alarm bells.

 

[Whisper]

Oops! Double post!

 

[*blackrose]

I call myself my dogs "mom" & OH calls himself their "dad" & me their "mom" I love my dogs like kids & the law can think & call them what ever it likes but that's not how I think of them.

I don't care what anyone thinks ... When I lost Izze I swear it was like losing a human family member ... It hurt that badly, it still hurts but as Andrea said in TWD about the death of her sister "the hurt never goes away, you just make room for it." I believe a piece of me died with her, I just don't feelnlike quite the same person anymore.

I refer to myself as "mom" to the dogs, and Mike is "dad". I think I've cried more frequently and felt the impact more over the deaths of some of my pets than I have over the deaths of people - because my animals have impacted my lives in ways that the people I know who passed away did not.

I love my animals. More than I love some people.

That does not mean that I can't "own" them in the eyes of the law, and that they are not my property. They are, and I want it to stay that way. They are MINE.

Although I have joked before and said it would be nice if I could claim them as dependents on tax returns. LOL

 

[sillysally]

I've lost a number of family members, but my horse's death was one of the most devastating.

Legally, I like that my animals are considered my property. Personally, however, I do consider them my family members. Even livestock destined for the table demands more respect than just plain "property."

 

[Dogdragoness]

I refer to myself as "mom" to the dogs, and Mike is "dad". I think I've cried more frequently and felt the impact more over the deaths of some of my pets than I have over the deaths of people - because my animals have impacted my lives in ways that the people I know who passed away did not.

I love my animals. More than I love some people.

That does not mean that I can't "own" them in the eyes of the law, and that they are not my property. They are, and I want it to stay that way. They are MINE.

Although I have joked before and said it would be nice if I could claim them as dependents on tax returns. LOL

I dream about how big my tax return/writeoff might be if I could claim them as dependants & get writeoffs on all their needs.

though I wish there was some kind of "doggy WIC" program for those who are low income so they could afford better food & vet care for their dogs LOL.

 

[sillysally]

I dream about how big my tax return/writeoff might be if I could claim them as dependants & get writeoffs on all their needs.

Every time DH does the taxes I'm always sure to remind him that the dogs DO have human names....at our age having a 9 year old named Sally and a 6 year old called Jack is perfectly plausible--lol!

 

[Dogdragoness]

:rofl1: Yeah But I dont think the ******* IRS would take too kindly to being hoodwinked.

 

[BostonBanker]

though I wish there was some kind of "doggy WIC" program for those who are low income so they could afford better food & vet care for their dogs LOL.

Wasn't there an article recently here about one of those? It was privately funded, which I think it would have to be. I'd be seriously ticked if I were taxed to pay for someone's pet. Our food shelf is regularly stocked with pet food, often by locally owned stores, which I think is wonderful.

Every time DH does the taxes I'm always sure to remind him that the dogs DO have human names....at our age having a 9 year old named Sally and a 6 year old called Jack is perfectly plausible--lol!

I say the same thing every year - I have Meg, Gus, and Tristan. Sounds like a nice little family!

 

[Dogdragoness]

LOL I think I will choose human names for my pets from now on ... just in case

 

[MinPinOwner]

Ignoring legal and political issues, does it really matter what people call their dogs? I could call Kenya my fur-baby/kids or me her guardian. She won't care. lol

Dogs are technically considered property in the legal system.