2006 ATTS Breed Statistics

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**the first number is the # of dogs tested, the # of dogs passed, & the # of dogs failed & the overall passing rate**

My breed:
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER 542 456 86 84.1%

AKITA 447 329 118 73.6%
AUSTRALIAN CATTLE DOG 162 127 35 78.4%
AUSTRALIAN SHEPHERD 571 461 110 80.7%
BASSET HOUND 33 28 5 84.8%
BEAGLE 59 47 12 79.7%
BICHON FRISE 27 21 6 77.8% .
BOXER 368 311 57 84.5%
BULLDOG 125 86 39 68.8%
CAVALIER KING CHARLES SPANIEL 45 36 9 80.0%
CHIHUAHUA 35 25 10 71.4%
CHOW CHOW 89 62 27 69.7%
COCKER SPANIEL 219 179 40 81.7%
GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG 2,833 2,361 472 83.3%
GOLDEN RETRIEVER 687 576 111 83.8%
LABRADOR RETRIEVER 686 628 58 91.5%
MINIATURE POODLE 64 49 15 76.6%
PAPILLON 79 63 16 79.7%
PEMBROKE WELSH CORGI 182 142 40 78.0%
POMERANIAN 32 24 8 75.0%
PRESA CANARIO 14 13 1 92.9%
PUG 40 36 4 90.0%
ROTTWEILER 4744 3,923 821 82.7%
SHIBA INU 23 15 8 65.2%
SHIH TZU 39 30 9 76.9%
STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER 61 52 9 85.2%
WEIMARANER 206 164 42 79.6%
YORKSHIRE TERRIER 37 30 7 81.1%

To see the entire breed list, the link is http://www.atts.org/statistics.html

I just posted some of the more common breeds I see on this site. :)
 

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You know, I've looked at the temperament testing and I have to say I'm just not impressed with it. I don't find it tremendously valid or realistic.

They say they take the dog's breed into consideration in judging the test, but I seriously doubt these testers know or understand what every breed's temperament should be. I didn't see anything on the site that indicates the training a tester must go through.

And they don't even test for reaction to another dog, which I think is vitally important in today's society, nor do they check prey drive (which can easily kick in at the sight of a running child). Instead they open an umbrella and shoot a gun, neither of which (to me) are a good test of a dog's temperament.

They say it simulates a "walk through a park or neighborhood where everyday situations are encountered". But gunshots? Walking over an ex-pen? You're much more likely to see children playing or dogs running around.

It's just not very realistic, to me, and not an actual true measure of a dog's temperament. I kind of group it with the shelter testing that has become so popular - people feed into it, but that doesn't make it valid. I wouldn't take those statistics to heart in any way, personally.

Just my always honest opinion.

Melanie and the gang in Alaska
 

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CAUCASIAN OVCHARKA 4 4 0 100.0%


Basically had 100% pass rate for like a year now. But sample is way to small.


But the temparement testing is breed based. Therefore it checks only if the breed has correct temperament not if it has temperament you like.
 

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HaHaHa, subtest #9 and #10 mentions "a weird stranger" I wonder how they determin "weird" as seen by a dog. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm........... I think my dogs would consider us all "weird"
 
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Very poor test in my opinion. You can speak with a person that is a paranoid schizophrenic for instance, and they can appear perfectly normal for long periods of time and then all of a sudden they are symptomatic. The same is true for dogs, where a dog is friendly and all of a sudden acts up due to one or more reasons. Testing a dog for 12 minutes and saying it has a good temperament is absurd.
 
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The ATTS Temperament Test focuses on and measures different aspects of temperament such as stability, shyness, aggressiveness, and friendliness as well as the dog's instinct for protectiveness towards its handler and/or self-preservation in the face of a threat.

The test simulates a casual walk through a park or neighborhood where everyday life situations are encountered. During this walk, the dog experiences visual, auditory and tactile stimuli. Neutral, friendly and threatening situations are encountered, calling into play the dog's ability to distinguish between non-threatening situations and those calling for watchful and protective reactions.

Dogs must be at least 18 months old to enter this test. The test takes about eight to 12 minutes to complete. The dog is on a loose six-foot (6') lead. The handler is not allowed to talk to the dog, give commands, or give corrections.

Failure on any part of the test is recognized when a dog shows:

Unprovoked aggression
Panic without recovery
Strong avoidance
The ATTS Temperament Test consists of ten subtests divided into five subcategories:

Behavior Toward Strangers
Objective: To measure the dog's reaction to strangers in a non-threatening situation.
Subtest 1: Neutral stranger
A stranger to the dog approaches the handler, shakes hands with the handler and engages the handler in a brief conversation, ignoring the dog.
The purpose of this subtest is to evaluate the dog's reaction to passive socialization and the dog's protective instinct.

Subtest 2: Friendly stranger
A stranger to the dog approaches happily and briskly, is very friendly to the dog and pets the dog.
The purpose of this subtest is to evaluate the dog's active social skills.

Reaction to Auditory Stimuli
Objective: To measure the dog's reaction to auditory stimuli and the dog's investigative behavior.
Subtest 3: Hidden Noise
The handler/dog team approaches a hidden assistant who rattles a metal bucket filled with rocks and sets this bucket in the path of the team. The handler may encourage the dog to investigate the bucket only when asked to do so. The handler's focus must be on the bucket, not on the dog.
The purpose of this subtest is to test alertness and curiosity.

Subtest 4: Gunshots
The handler stops at a designated marker with his/her back towards a well hidden assistant. The assistant fires three shots using a .22 caliber starter pistol (SHOT-PAUSE-SHOT-SHOT).
The purpose of this subtest is to measure the dog's recovery response to a sudden noise.

Reaction to Visual Stimulus
Objective: To measure the dog's reaction to a sudden visual stimulus.
Subtest 5: Umbrella
The handler/dog team approaches an assistant sitting in a chair holding a closed umbrella parallel to the ground at a 90 degree angle to the approaching team. When the dog is five feet from the assistant, the umbrella is opened. The handler may encourage the dog to investigate the umbrella only when asked to do so. The handler's focus must be on the umbrella, not on the dog.

Tactile Stimuli
Objective: To measure the dog's reaction to unusual footing.
Subtest 6: Plastic Footing
Both the handler and the dog walk the entire length of a 15-foot by 6-foot clear plastic strip.

Subtest 7: Wire Footing
Only the dog will walk the entire length of a 12-foot by 3-foot unfolded exercise pen.

The purpose of these subtests is to measure the dog's sensitivity to unusual footing, its ability to recover from the fear of unusual footing and to measure its investigative behavior to the unusual footing.

Self Protective/Aggressive Behavior
Objective: These tests collectively evaluate the dog's capacity to recognize an unusual situation, its threshold to provocation, its protective instincts, and its propensity to realize when the situation becomes a threat.
Subtest 8: Non-Threatening
The handler/dog team stops at the designated marker. A weirdly-dressed stranger crosses the path 38 feet in front of the team.
The purpose of this subtest is to test the dog's alertness to an unusual situation.

Subtest 9: Threatening
The weird stranger advances 10 feet towards the stationary handler in a threatening manner.
The purpose of this subtest is to evaluate the dog's ability to recognize when an unusual situation turns into a provocation.

Subtest 10: Aggression
The weird stranger advances to within 18 feet of the stationary handler in an aggressive manner.
The purpose of this subtest is to evaluate the dog's protective instincts.

The stranger is never closer than 10 feet from the dog. The handler's 2 foot arm and the 6' lead is added in for a total of 18 feet. Aggression here is checked against the breed standard and the dog's training. A schutzhund trained dog lunging at the stranger is allowed, but if an untrained Siberian husky does the same, it may fail.
 
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I don't think this organization makes much sense. When you talk about temperament-testing dogs, you have to choose a goal because there is no consensus on what is a desirable temperament for a dog: some people want a dog who will placidly allow anyone to do anything to him, others want a dog who'll remove a family member's face for walking past the owner's car. And that divergence exists within breeds as well as in breed differences; aka, the 'X's are supposed to be human-aggressive/dog-aggressive/etc.' crowd v. the 'X's need to fit into today's world better' proponents. This ATTS seems to be ducking the issue of how can you make allowances for schutzhund training and super-sharp attack breeding (for instance) if you're trying to temperament test for average households in typical communities.

ATTS was established to:

Provide for a uniform national program of temperament testing of purebred and spayed/neutered mixed-breed dogs.
Conduct seminars to disseminate information to dog owners, dog breeders and evaluators (testers) concerning dog psychology, motivation, reaction and other aspects of temperament testing.
Recognize and award certificates to dogs that pass the requirements of the temperament evaluation.
Work for the betterment of all breeds of dogs.
Select, train, prepare and register temperament evaluators
 

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.............................. Testing a dog for 12 minutes and saying it has a good temperament is absurd.
I totally agree.................my dogs or kids can be good for a whole 12 minutes if I am watching them :) and 13 if there is a treat involved!

CGC's, any OB title,this particular test, and others like them are not a guarantee of anything with any dog.....................there are no guarantees in life.
Thats why I believe owners should pass the test, not the dogs (no guarantees then either, but perhaps a better percentage on the outcomes for the public)
 

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**sigh**

NO WHERE did I say this was a factual test that told the truth of all breeds. NO WHERE did I say that we should accept the findings of this & put them in stone & worship them.

I am no so stupid as to realize that some breeds passed with a 100% success rate......all 2 of them.

But the biggest thing I'd like to say is I'm sorry I ever wasted me time on a forum with such hateful "kill them all the world is safer without them" people who would love to pull the trigger to kill every "pit bull" themself if they could. I'm sorry people here accept the media stories as truth & don't give a rat's ass if further investiagion yields an entirely different scenario and/or even different breed of dog. I'm sorry that people here are so close-minded & that their opinions should be viewed by poeple like me as fact & we should absent mindedly listen & obey your every wish & demand.

I'm sorry you will NEVER take my dogs from me.

Good-bye.
 

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**sigh**

NO WHERE did I say this was a factual test that told the truth of all breeds. NO WHERE did I say that we should accept the findings of this & put them in stone & worship them.

I am no so stupid as to realize that some breeds passed with a 100% success rate......all 2 of them.

But the biggest thing I'd like to say is I'm sorry I ever wasted me time on a forum with such hateful "kill them all the world is safer without them" people who would love to pull the trigger to kill every "pit bull" themself if they could. I'm sorry people here accept the media stories as truth & don't give a rat's ass if further investiagion yields an entirely different scenario and/or even different breed of dog. I'm sorry that people here are so close-minded & that their opinions should be viewed by poeple like me as fact & we should absent mindedly listen & obey your every wish & demand.

I'm sorry you will NEVER take my dogs from me.

Good-bye.
Huh?? Where did that come from? :confused: I think I missed something here.

Where on earth did anybody say anything about APBTs? All I read was critique to the statistic and the test itself.

I dunno.. I think you are way out of line with your "this forum hates bully breeds and you are all ignorant and haters" mentality. I can only hope that you got out of bed with the wrong foot, will stay and post some more darling pictures of your gang!
 

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Miakoda I am sorry if my posts made you feel that way.........that was surely not my intent at all. ((((hugs)))))
 
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I disagree with most of you, big surprise. Not saying that these tests are the be all and end all, but with a fair degree of accuracy, you could get a decent read on the temperment of a dog. It doesn't guarentee anything, life is too variable for that, but you can get a pretty fair estimation of a dogs temperment.

Of course that's really going to depend on how and where the test is administered, and who is giving it, but in 12 minutes, you can tell a lot.

I'm glad they're doing it, you need to start somewhere. Excellence can't be your enemy. Same for the CGC, I don't really think as I see them tested for and given out now always mean a whole lot, but they could with refinement in testing sites and testers.
 
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Excellence in what, though? Excellence in dogs who can tolerate human interactions, or excellence in dogs who catch hogs or take out enemy intruders? Simply biasing the test overall toward dogs of stolid temperaments who don't react much to much of anything, then attempting to backdoor dogs like terriers and Akitas by making allowances for breed type or training doesn't add up. Do all dogs have to be stolid unless they were developed in 1202 to guard palaces? Is a breed origin from 200 years ago sufficient to warrant a 'pass' when a dog exhibits behavior that is dangerous in modern society and would fail if he was a different breed? Where's the excellence in any of this? Any organization that claims to temperament test needs to clearly state it's goals, and it's goals can't be inclusive. You're either looking for a racehorse or a schoolie, you can't have both.

I don't want to sound too snotty, but it's important. If the dog world loses the trust of larger society through too many flawed or badly administered 'temperament tests' --leading to headlines like "Killer Dog Was A+ Pass on Shelter Temperament Test" --all our dogs are in trouble.
 

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If you want a good temperament test for a dog, try GROOMING them!

Think about it, you have to handle them, handle their feet, mess with their ears and touch them in ways they may not particularly like. You might use loud things (dryers), or touch their body with things they don't particularly like (clippers, etc.). Sometimes when brushing a long-haired dog you might catch on a knot which could hurt. Some dogs will whip around and bite, some will just whine. And there's lots of weird sights and smells and lots of different people in grooming salons.

I think grooming is a good way to judge a dog's temperament/bite inhibition!
 
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Excellence in the tests, meaning don't let that be your enemy. You have to start somewhere. I'm sure their tests aren't perfect. I guess the real saying goes "don't let perfection, be the enemy of excellence" or something like that. Meaning its not perfect to start with, but don't wait till everything is perfect to start.

I'm sure the tests need to be perfected, I"m sure the evaluators need more training and should probably be breed specific. BUT there are some big flaws that you can see in dogs in a relative short amount of time with some quick tests that could be used for all breeds. Now whether its tolerating human interaction or catching hogs, I don't think that's really a temperment test, but should be a breed specific test done by the parent clubs and is a different game to me.

I don't think this method is the best, i'm not even really familiar with it. I expect for it to move forward they'd make some changes eventually and more clearly state their goals. There are so many variables in everything I'm not sure there is any thing that would make everyone happy, but to me, if someone is willing to test their dog in some venue, probably shows they care more than the average person and if their dogs has some weaker areas, they'll know how to protect their dog and people from any situations should they arise.

I know you can train for certain scenrio's to make your dog look better, and that is Ok to a degree, cause it still shows that the owner is willing to work and put time in to make things better. That is different than Shelter's doing the work because you are the one doing the test with your dog not taking the shelter's word for it. You would actually have to spend time with your dog and be somewhat competent in reading and reacting to dog behvior, not an expert, but I don't think we all need to be.

Either way I guess I don't feel any more safe or that the streets are more dangerous cause they do or don't require these tests. I know my dogs, I feel safe around other dogs, and mandating anything like this wouldn't change the people that don't give a crap now anyway. A little off topic, oops.
 

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Keep in mind, and this has been said many times before and I only recently started to fully understand it, that a breed's temperament does not mean anything in these cases.
Dogs can be whatever they are, but if they do not fit what PEOPLE WANT, then they aren't what they want around.

It's not really about testing the dog based on the expected temperament due to breed...it's about what's acceptable in society, mostly. There are exceptions for certain breeds I'm sure. But it is overall temperament in everyday life, not in situations that will probably never happen.
 

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Miakoda made a point. There are some members here who will not take actual FACTS to save their life...much less the innocent lives of animals who have done NO WRONG.

There are people who honestly believe that a breed that is punished by the media (and they believe every minute of it, for some reason) can go 15 years without biting someone, but is probably going to do it before they die. It's absurd. It's disgusting. And it's everywhere.


Every single pit bull topic turns out this way. Nobody understands the patterns that have been made over the decades. They refuse to. They refused to with the last breed, and before that, and before that. They ARE close-minded, they DONT listen.
These people shoot down education as much as they possibly can. They don't believe in it. No matter what they say, or what excuses they make ("oh educating doesn't work"), the truth is, they just do not care. It is hard to let yourself be proven wrong, but sometimes, you need to.
There are so many people in need of real reality checks, and if they got one, the world would be a better place.

Stop shooting down everyone's ideas to save these dogs. It is not only rude, but it's showing a complete lack of common sense, education, and tolerance. Those are three things this world is in depserate need of right now, and there is no topic that should have discussors lacking any of them.
 

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I hate pitbulls :eek: Including my own!! Ha ha.

The few rare breeds that scored high or low because of a low sample number of course is not a fair portrayal of anything really.

The larger sample numbers I would guess are much more accurate. Nothing is going to hit the nail directly on the head, but it would give you *some* kind of idea about a breed's temperment if you read up on what exactly is considered a pass in which category of the test combined with what's expected of the breed's temperment.

Although I do agree that the levels of training of the dogs if any should be publicized, a Golden that's never been socialized or gone to an obedience class may fail horribly, while a horrible, evil pit who's gone to school may pass. (that was sarcasm) I suppose I should mention breeds that are SUPPOSED to be wary of humans or bred to even perhaps be aggressive towards humans like dobes or GSD's as well.

Does it say anywhere on the website that if a Dobe is wary of a stranger it fails/passes?

The amount of research put into what a breed should or shouldn't do in any of those situations would have to be intense to trully be fair statistics, but it's nice to look at it and think about nonetheless.
 

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I'd just like to add seeing as the topic is already kind of headed that way...

Miakoda, if you really want to help the breed get out in your own community. Sure change can happen on the internet, education and what not, but if you really honestly want to help the breed, go out on a Sunday with your pit, have some candies, some pamphlets anything to catch peoples attention. Allow them to see your hopefully friendly pit, give your LOCAL community some education.

I've inadvertently changed close to a dozen or possibly more, peoples ideas of pitbulls IN MY OWN community. And it feels a lot better than preaching (not saying you are personally) on the internet. Get up close and personal with those that you feel have misinterpreted your breed.
 

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