Need advice about bruno (aggression)

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You know, Hedwig, there's a chance that your love for Bruno and the need to be more stable and less fearful for HIS sake might just help you in getting a handle on your own problems :)

I've always found that when you focus on the needs and problems of someone else, your own needs and problems tend to be handled as well.

You need to be calm and confident for Bruno - keep that in your mind. Use it. I know what you deal with is complex, but sometimes the simplest things, when they are tied to something that means a great deal to us, can be the beginnings of a solution.
 

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Thanks renee i hope so.

Also we have a bad gang of youths around here as well that have it in for bruno, our last encounter, they aimed a firework at us.

my last encounter without him, they poured beer all over me. the same day they nearly killed a couple trying to protect their kids from them. Now thats scary.
 

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Hm. So let me get this straight, you're giving Bruno to a trainer who will find another home for him?

I know I'm late coming into this but you want advice? Here's advice. Buy a crate. Do not give this dog the opportunity to bite or threaten somebody - lock him in another room or in a crate when you have visitors. If the door bell rings, say "just a minute", take 30 seconds and put him in a crate, and close the door to that room. Then greet your guests. By all means do NOT let your friends dangle their hands in front of him, are they idiots?!

Basic safety, Hedwig, goes a long way. Bruno would not have had these incidents if you didn't keep pushing him outside his comfort level. Yes, putting him in a crate when strangers are around is slapping a band-aid on the issue, but unless you are willing to turn every social visit from friends into a training session with your dog, you need to keep him away from them. Every experience he's having with them in which he's snapping or biting is just reinforcing the fact that it's okay to snap or bite.

You've been offered advice, you just don't want to take it. We can't solve everything for you Hedwig, it requires effort on your part and you refuse to make that effort - all you go back to saying is "I didn't want him in the first place". I hope that this trainer is worth his weight in gold, but if not, please have Bruno humanely euthanized, for his sake and for that of the people around him.
 

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Hm. So let me get this straight, you're giving Bruno to a trainer who will find another home for him?

I know I'm late coming into this but you want advice? Here's advice. Buy a crate. Do not give this dog the opportunity to bite or threaten somebody - lock him in another room or in a crate when you have visitors. If the door bell rings, say "just a minute", take 30 seconds and put him in a crate, and close the door to that room. Then greet your guests. By all means do NOT let your friends dangle their hands in front of him, are they idiots?!

Basic safety, Hedwig, goes a long way. Bruno would not have had these incidents if you didn't keep pushing him outside his comfort level. Yes, putting him in a crate when strangers are around is slapping a band-aid on the issue, but unless you are willing to turn every social visit from friends into a training session with your dog, you need to keep him away from them. Every experience he's having with them in which he's snapping or biting is just reinforcing the fact that it's okay to snap or bite.

You've been offered advice, you just don't want to take it. We can't solve everything for you Hedwig, it requires effort on your part and you refuse to make that effort - all you go back to saying is "I didn't want him in the first place". I hope that this trainer is worth his weight in gold, but if not, please have Bruno humanely euthanized, for his sake and for that of the people around him.

I agree completely. There's not anything I can add to that without sounding like a broken record.
 

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Have you not read the whole text or cant you read???

He is going to the trainer to have his behavoir looked at and retrained, including obediance etc.

This man trains dogs for films and police dogs etc, so im sure he noes what he is doing some how.

then he either going to keep him on or let someone give him a home who he thinks its suitable, probably a fellow trainer. AND he would of been trained by then and probably wont have thisproblem by then!

Gawd
 

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Do yourself a favor and get a cat or gecko for your next pet.

Much, much easier to care for and no training needed.
 

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Hey if a top quality dog trainer who specialises in aggressive dogs cant stop brunos behavoiur then he will have to be put down anyway!

look at it from this angle! who is he better off with?

im GOING to be homeless in three monthes time if i cant find a place for us both because my mum doesnt want him here! ironic that everyone forgets that
 

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No, I can't read, I'm just taking wild guesses at the jumbled, grammatically incorrect mess that you're posting. :) Now can we stop with the personal jabs, dearie?

There is a huge difference between someone who trains dogs and someone who alters unwanted behaviors. Bruno has major baggage, and just because someone trains dogs for films or trained police dogs doesn't mean they know how to deal with a dog that has been raised incorrectly and has aggression issues. I don't mean to be a downer here, I just don't see a great outcome for this dog. Though I agree he's got a better chance with someone experienced.

I wish Bruno the best of luck. In the future, maybe you should stick to goldfish.
 

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I used to be a zoo keeper, a maniger of the place, i certainly no how to care for animals.
I have been hand rearing animals for years and releasing them into the wild or rehoming them. its what i do best.

But when..........ya no what never mind. how anyone can see he is beeter off living in a one bed place with a garden, with no money, teens living around here aiming to kill, cant afford training or much of it, first time dog owner, have mental issues of my own and from a rape despise men as much as he does, got cheated into taking him in the first place, he is too strong for me, so if anything went wrong, i couldnt stop him And im going to be homeless in three monthes time, you need your head examining.

Or going to a trainer where he will trained and his problems sorted then rehomed into another trainers house where he will get the care he deserves.

In my eyes its not much of a contest.

The only reason i have kept him over the year, not being able to afford training is because i new if i let him go to a shelter he would be put down. At least with me he was happy. i couldnt really provide for him or train him as i should be i was there for him?
Has anyone else ever been?
 

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If you make comments about my reading skills, I'll make comments about your writing skills. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

In any case, good luck getting your life together, I hope Bruno is able to live happily with the trainer. That's very kind of the man to take him in.
 

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I used to have reptiles before........funny ya should mention, a royal python, 3 bearded dragons, and a water dragon i saved an inch from life on chicks legs of all things lol.

Really they belonged to the zoo but i kept them in my home, reptile house was over crowding.
 

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Please chill, Hedwig. When you get upset and start slinging insults toward people that are trying to help you, it's awfully hard to take what you say seriously. Grace is not an idiot.

Skittledoo, someone said she should stick to reptiles. I was thinking more along the lines of a rock, but whatever.

I really hope the trainer works out and Bruno starts to get help for his problems. Sending good luck for Bruno and for you, too.
 

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I haven't headed into this earlier as the title asked for help with an aggressive dog and I've never had any , so felt that I wouldn't have any concrete advice . I can add at this point now, find a good trainer/behaviorist and get an honest opinion as to whether or not putting him down would be the kindest solution . This is no life for Bruno or for you .
 

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I can add at this point now, find a good trainer/behaviorist and get an honest opinion as to whether or not putting him down would be the kindest solution . This is no life for Bruno or for you .
You are a smart woman.

Honestly, when I originally read a post about rehoming him some time ago (last year, maybe?), my thought then was euthanize. I don't believe in rehomeing dogs who bite, except in very certain circumstances. I watch friendly dog after friendly dog come through my friend's rescue. There are so many dogs being put to sleep every day who don't rely on their teeth when they are scared (and I say scared, because Hedwig keeps calling him "nervous aggressive").

Nobody who is adopting a dog deserves to have to deal with that kind of aggression. No dog deserves to live a life where they are constantly worried and feeling like they need to defend themselves. It is unfair to them.

The dog can not be rehomed. You can't afford a behaviorist to work with both of you. This is NOT something that can be solved over the internet. I'd really question any trainer who would try and make a clearly unstable dog into a guard dog; those are often the dogs with the most stable, reliable temperments.

If the dog comes back into your possesion, I would ask the vet for some really good tranquilizers. Give Bruno a great morning, with all the yummy foods he likes, but that may bother his sensitive stomach. Sedate him before taking him to vet, since he is upset there. And let him go to a place where he doesn't have to feel so nervous all the time.

Feel free to swear at me. I'll tell you the truth, a lot of your posts make it sound like you are asking for permission to euthanize him. And you know what - I'd give it to you.
 

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Great post, Boston. It may sound inhumane, but with the resources for him you lack, Hedwig, it could be the most humane solution for poor Bruno.
 
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