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#21
You feed so much of the better foods, so it works out to be the same price in the end. ie if it costs 2X as much but you feed 1/2 the amount, it costs the same, and your dog will be healthier :)

It just hits a sore point with people here. It is like a parent saying I feed my kids Mcdonalds and doritos cause things are tight. Even with free vet care, I would still imagine a really healthy dog would cost less in its lifetime, if less gas in trips to the vet if nothing else.

I used to feed Purina Proplan. We had a huge dog live to be 9 (130 pound 33inch tall dog) His immune system shut down. I feel upset, he might have lived longer, if I knew then what I know now. (he might not have, but still it bugs me)
and i see your point, believe me, it just hits me wrong when people say i can not afford my babies, or things of that nature, when they do not know how we are at this point... we have nver had a house before, but, we are learning, but, that does not mean that we are less of parents than anyone here.

as for the cost, for an average size pup like mine he is going to hit well over the 100lb mark in no time, and he will need more FOOD, and so will cinni... here let me get some pics of both and you can see what i mean..
 

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I feel that you have your mind shut to any help we're trying to give you. So you say you will have a higher combined weight and will have to go through more food. Ok, so let's say you go through two bags a month. That's still less than $100 a month on food. You're currently spending more than double that right now, do you really think your food bill is going to go down as your dogs get bigger? I'm guessing that your GSD mix ends up about 90 pounds and if you are right about Cinnamon being 60...so that's 150 lbs combined. Only 25lbs more than mine, so you might have to feed an extra cup or so a day. It still is remarkably less than what you're going to have to shell out for beef-flavored corn meal and rice chaff.

But hey, it's your family and your money. Do whatever you feel like. Enjoy not having extras because of your pet food bills.
 
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Canidae is a pretty good food and fairly cheap compared to the other good foods. I stuck your location in their store locator and this is what I got. Maybe you could give it a try.

K-9 Cuts
801 292-4216
1484 S. 600 West
Bountiful, UT 84010

Orchard Animal Clinic
801 296-1230
755 N. Highway 89
Salt Lake City, UT 84054


The Dog Show
801 466-6100
1508 S. 1500 East
Salt Lake City, UT 84105

The Dog's Meow
801 468-0700
2047 East 3300 South
Salt Lake City, UT 84109

Ma & Paws Bakery
801 487-3838
1217 E. 3300 S
Salt Lake City, UT 84106

Just For Pets
801 546-8088
45 E. Gentile
Layton, UT 84041

The Dog Show Kennel
801 250-2553
4053 S. 7200 West
West Valley City, UT 84120

H.O.P.E. Health Center
435 647-0807
3070 Rasmussen Rd. Ste.#80
Jeremy Ranch, UT 84098

JEM Vet Care
801 968-9932
4663 W. 6200 South
West Jordan, UT 84084

Alcor Cresta Vet Hospital
801 255-7159
7407 S. 900 East
Midvale, UT 84047
map and directions
 

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You said that 40lbs of dog food lasts your dogs 2 weeks. If a super premium dog food costs $45/bag, that means that you will spend $90/month on dog food.

How in the world are you spending $200/month on Pedigree?

By the way, how is pet care + insurance $300+/month? What are you buying for them that costs so much? :confused:
 
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You said that 40lbs of dog food lasts your dogs 2 weeks. If a super premium dog food costs $45/bag, that means that you will spend $90/month on dog food.

How in the world are you spending $200/month on Pedigree?

By the way, how is pet care + insurance $300+/month? What are you buying for them that costs so much? :confused:
ok, here is the breakdown of what i buy for my pups to equal aprox 200 per month:

pet care costs:
puppy shampoo and conditioner: $20
puppy brushes: 10
puppy toothbrushes: 20
puppy toys:50-60
blankets/pillows:20
misc care: 60

the pet insurance is not free, routine checkups and basic surgeries are free, however serious surgeries and burial things are not free, and i pay out of pocket and prepare myself for a proper burial for my pets, call me crazy but i do go without the fun stuff so i can have a plan for the rest in peace days.

oh, i forgot to add we also put in 200 per month for my sons already 20,000 college fund.
 

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Food makes a huge difference for dogs. Allergies, diseases and other ailments which thrive off of a compromised immune system will happen when the needs of proper nutrition are not met. Hot spots, ear infections, dry skin, even fleas are common indicators of a weakened immune system. The other day at the grooming shop a cocker came in to be clipped and she was completely deaf from the outrageous scar tissue and inflamation in her ears. Her owners fed her Iams and believe that it is a wonderful food- that her ear condition could not possibly be related to food allergies like their vet suggested. Even when a dog appears to be healthy on a poor diet they will age poorer, they will become more succeptible to viruses and diseases, etc. In the end the money saved on a cheap bag of dog food will be spent on higher vet bills. Besides, your dog has to eat more of the unhealthy food than they do the ones higher in nutrition.

Trust me on this, I have a dog that weighs 190lbs. He only eats 3-4 cups of food a day depending on activities.
 

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Spend a little less of the toys, brushes (do you need brushes every month?) and you will have enough for better food. It really won't cost you THAT much more

or get a Costco Membership ... they have a good food that is about $10.00 for 20 pounds.
 
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Food makes a huge difference for dogs. Allergies, diseases and other ailments which thrive off of a compromised immune system will happen when the needs of proper nutrition are not met. Hot spots, ear infections, dry skin, even fleas are common indicators of a weakened immune system. The other day at the grooming shop a cocker came in to be clipped and she was completely deaf from the outrageous scar tissue and inflamation in her ears. Her owners fed her Iams and believe that it is a wonderful food- that her ear condition could not possibly be related to food allergies like their vet suggested. Even when a dog appears to be healthy on a poor diet they will age poorer, they will become more succeptible to viruses and diseases, etc. In the end the money saved on a cheap bag of dog food will be spent on higher vet bills. Besides, your dog has to eat more of the unhealthy food than they do the ones higher in nutrition.

Trust me on this, I have a dog that weighs 190lbs. He only eats 3-4 cups of food a day depending on activities.
i beg to differ that Iams was the cause, who knows what else could have been going on, too many people want to blame the FOOD we or pups eat for allergeries, my mother has raised her pups on Iams for 7 years and they get a clean bill of health every check up, but, to each his own. i know what i am doing with my pups, i also said THAT I WOULD CHANGE IF NEED BE ( SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO YOU)... and if i need to adjust the pet food i will, as it stands now they get a clean bill of health each time they go in... no marks or sores or anything.. they have clean clear shiny coats and they have perfectly white teeth.
 

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I don't understand why you'd need all those things monthly honestly..
pet care costs:
puppy shampoo and conditioner: $20
puppy brushes: 10
puppy toothbrushes: 20
puppy toys:50-60
blankets/pillows:20
misc care: 60
I haven't bought a toothbrush, bed, brush or toy in months.. shampoo and conditioner shouldn't be a monthly needed expense either.. I'm a little confused.
 
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I don't understand why you'd need all those things monthly honestly..


I haven't bought a toothbrush, bed, brush or toy in months.. shampoo and conditioner shouldn't be a monthly needed expense either.. I'm a little confused.
well you may not understand but with my pups they get the best, you dont brush you dogs teeth :mad:... and you dont go out and buy your pup toys, i do not know about you but my babies go throu toys like water, that keeps them from chewing on my things.
 
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Brushes you pretty much only buy once if you buy nice ones--or at most one every few years--same with tooth brushes--unless you are brushing every day. My dogs use the same tooth brush and then when that got old used our old ones--works just fine!

Also toys--if you buy toys that last a good amount (and they should with all that exercise they are getting) I've spent maybe $50 a year--and Wrigley has a whole toybox to choose from and toys with the tags still on that I found on super clearance set aside for when he destroys these.

Beds should only be once and awhile too--

What are you planning for their end times--I know that growing up our ourdoor dogs who were fed Pedigree were burried by my father on our property
 

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Let me get this straight, you don't believe that dogs can have food allergies? Please educate yourself on the effects of nutrition and health in dogs before CAPPING TO GET THROUGH TO PEOPLE!
 

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I let my dogs brush their own teeth on the bones I buy them, which costs a lot less than toothbrushes.

And that's the last I will post on this, because I'm going to start doing this
otherwise.
 

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I have a show dog.. I have a crap load of grooming supplies. I don't need to replace them monthly. I do brush teeth, but those supplies also don't need to be replaced monthly..

I've had the same dog beds for probably a year without an issue.. I don't see why all those are monthly expenses.
 

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On Monday we were at the vets and the tech tried to convince us to buy some Science diet food. She honestly thought that she was recommending a good food to us, so I asked her if I could show her why we would never feed those foods. She had never looked at the ingredience list and was surprised to see by products in the food she was even feeding to her own dogs. Needless to say she decided to do some research and find a better food!
 
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ok see each and everytime i make a post about anything on here ( good or bad) then i get the treatment that I am the one that is doing the wrong thing, and that if i do not see it your way then it is wrong wrong wrong...

IMO and the experiance i have seen i have had no problems with Pedigree and the like, besides as far as i know Pedigree was around alot longer than all these new make you feel better foods out there, and i would rather trust a brand i grew up with feeding all my dogs ( who, mind you lived way past there years), i am NOT saying that what you guys are doing is wrong, but, please do not get on here and tell people because they choose to do this or choose to feed this way or that, i ask that you let people do what they see fit, they are not killing there dogs, they are not abusing there dogs, they are simply trying to survive in this place we call life.

just because it is best for you and you can do it, do not assume that is has to be that way for everyone...
 

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actually pedigree is much newer, than feeding raw.

And if you are fine feeding your dog 4-D meats, coated in creosote (what meat is in there that is) and floor sweepings from grain mills, the remains of euthed cats and dogs, that is your business.

And if you don't believe those things are in beniful and pedigree, you need to do some independant research yourself. There is nothing like finding these things out for yourself. When you come across studies, dig to see who funded them. If they are independtantly funding, great.
 
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actually pedigree is much newer, than feeding raw.

And if you are fine feeding your dog 4-D meats, coated in creosote (what meat is in there that is) and floor sweepings from grain mills, the remains of euthed cats and dogs, that is your business.

And if you don't believe those things are in beniful and pedigree, you need to do some independant research yourself. There is nothing like finding these things out for yourself. When you come across studies, dig to see who funded them. If they are independtantly funding, great.
this statement makes me wonder if you are basing you conclusion on facts or what you heard on TV?? and what the media said. let me ask you this what was the very first food you feed your dogs?
 

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Wow.

Did you know that commercial dog food has only been around for the past 60 years? It was "invented" during the great depression as a cheap way to feed your dog.

McDonald's has been around for a long time as well. Does it mean you should eat there every day? HECK NO.

So let me get this straight... you're spending hundreds of dollars a month on dog shampoo and toys, but you can't afford to feed a better food than Pedigree? Someone needs to get their priorities in order, me thinks...

An adult dog on Innova weighing 100lbs should eat no more than 3.4 cups of food a day. That same dog would have to eat 7-8 cups a DAY of Pedigree :yikes: Therefore, you end up going through a bag of pedigree WAY faster than you would a bag of Innova. Not to mention that fact that you'll have a healthier dog.

But they're your dogs. Go ahead and feed them crap if you wish. I just could never imagine giving my dogs a food with these ingredients:

Pedigree "Complete Nutrition"

Ground Whole Corn, Meat and Bone Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Animal Fat (preserved with BHA/BHT), Wheat Mill Run, Ground Wheat, Natural Poultry Flavor, Wheat Flour, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Carmel Color, Vegetable Oil (Source of Linoleic Acid), Rice, Wheat Gluten, Vitamins (Choline Chloride, dl-Alpha Tocopherol Acetate [Source of Vitamin E], L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate [Source of Vitamin C*], Vitamin A Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate [Vitamin B1], Biotin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement [Vitamin B2], Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement), Minerals (Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide), Added FD&C and Lake Colors (Yellow 6, Blue 2, Red 40, Yellow 5).
 

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