Ok I just got back from my doggie store who carries only the best products in my opinion and here is what she just recommended to me to give a try. This is for people who are considering a raw fed diet or home cook or feed kibble. I am posting a link to their website and the food will seem quite pricey but 1 oz packet gives 1/4 lb of food. I took several 1 oz packets to give it a try and see if they like it. She suggested that I mix a bit with their kibble daily and see how they improve from where they are now :yikes: I thought they were already well cared for but I agree that more is better. Anyway in light of the pet foods stuff going on I am going to give it a shot. Wonder what you all think if it looks good to you. thehonestkitchen.com