Obama Supports Same-Sex Marriage

Why do YOU care of someone else is "sinning." as long as you're on your way to heaven, why do you care so much about suppressing the rights of others?

Because followers are supposed to spread the word and try to save others.

Ask a practicing Catholic some day about the burden of having to spread the word. The Catholic faith is very fire and brimstone anyway... one of my co-workers told me the exact wording he was given once about his responsibility to save the souls of other people and it was, uh, alarming to say the least. Yikes.

And I also believe that the sun shines out my @ss some mornings. But those are my beliefs.

I'd be interested to see how many people this does the exact opposite too though.

Preaching appears to have the interesting effect of turning people to atheism. Surely god realises this.

All my teachers were very anti fire and brimstone and converting others was never talked about.

Which is wrong, and I'm sure anyone would agree that it's wrong to bring a child into a relationship to prove a point. Just like the people on the brink of divorce who have a kid to "save" their relationship. Or the people who have a kid to have an excuse to stay home and not work. Or the ones who have a kid so that they can **** off their parents and not allow grandma/grandpa to see them. All wrong.

Gay marriage =/= bringing a child into a screwed up home. Your sister and her partner aren't being good parents. There are plenty of same sex parents doing a great job, and plenty of horrid moms and dads out there as well.

I am a Christian. I love God, have read the Bible backwards and forwards, and studied gender/marriage/the Bible fairly in depth (I had to teach it to my middle school Bible study girls this year, and really, really solidified my own faith in doing so). I do not, for one instant, think that God is against same sex relationships. Paul and Timothy seem to preach against it in one way or another, but in the same letters they write about women not speaking in church, women not ever teaching men, and women keeping their heads covered at all times. Paul goes so far as to say it's best for people NEVER to get married (that the only reason we should is if we can't "control our lusts").

Even if I was against it...I wouldn't vote against it. That's denying people basic human rights, in my opinion.

1). No one chooses to be gay. It sucks to be ridiculed by ignorant asses.

2). Religion is flawed. It was created and used for control. It is easy to control the fearful. Religion creates fear. Wunderba!

That totally shocks me, because my co-worker was basically told the souls of EVERY SINGLE PERSON he passes EVER, including random strangers on the street, rest on him to save.
One of my friends from high school was told that in heaven you will forever hear the screams of the people you failed to save as they languish in hell.

Well, note that I didn't say HOW they're supposed to spread the word and try to save people... I think we had a conversation about this on here a few years ago. Honestly I doubt if most people on this forum know I'm a Christian... I don't hide it, I'll talk openly about it with people if they are really interested to know about my faith. But I don't run around beating people over the head with the bible either LOL. If people don't really pay a lot of attention to threads in the Fire Hydrant they probably wouldn't know.
And usually when people find out they're surprised because "you're so cool." And to them you can't be a genuinely nice, cool person and also still be a Christian... which makes me really sad, but that seems to be the thought process.

But I dunno. To me it's about how I live my life. I try to live my life the way I'm supposed to and I usually let that speak for itself. You CAN be a cool person and be a Christian... because I do it every day.
Maybe I'm the one doing it wrong. Maybe I'm supposed to run around whacking people on the head with a Bible. I don't know for sure. But I sure am trying.




That totally shocks me, because my co-worker was basically told the souls of EVERY SINGLE PERSON he passes EVER, including random strangers on the street, rest on him to save.
One of my friends from high school was told that in heaven you will forever hear the screams of the people you failed to save as they languish in hell.
Even non-Catholics are told they are supposed to spread the word, but my friends who are Catholic seem to have been given more guilt about it than the other Christian religions...

Also, a human cannot "save" anither human in that sense. We can give the gospel, lay the ground work, but in the end only God can save someone... That person has to seek to be saved.

Myeah you know what I meant.

Both of my catholic schools (gradeschool and high school) had a proportion of non Catholics who just came for the quality of the schools. While they did have to take religion as a class there was never any conversion and we always openly discussed other religions. Maybe I was in a catholic utopia lol

This thread moves too fast for me to keep up with.


My high school was like that. We actually had a Baptist priest come do our masses in school, and I loved him! Well, we all did. That's why he kept getting invited back, lol. There were plenty of non-Catholics at my school. They were required to take all the religion courses, but none of our religion courses strictly taught Catholicism. I remember a spirituality course, a world religions course, and some sort of meditative/reflective course. I don't remember what specifically it was called, but it was awesome. Very calm and peaceful. Those who weren't practicing Catholics were also required to attend any mass that was held during school, but they weren't required to participate. You just had to sit there and be present. No one ever tried to shove the Catholic religion down your throat, either. I loved my high school.

Which is wrong, and I'm sure anyone would agree that it's wrong to bring a child into a relationship to prove a point. Just like the people on the brink of divorce who have a kid to "save" their relationship. Or the people who have a kid to have an excuse to stay home and not work. Or the ones who have a kid so that they can **** off their parents and not allow grandma/grandpa to see them. All wrong.

Gay marriage =/= bringing a child into a screwed up home. Your sister and her partner aren't being good parents. There are plenty of same sex parents doing a great job, and plenty of horrid moms and dads out there as well.

I am a Christian. I love God, have read the Bible backwards and forwards, and studied gender/marriage/the Bible fairly in depth (I had to teach it to my middle school Bible study girls this year, and really, really solidified my own faith in doing so). I do not, for one instant, think that God is against same sex relationships. Paul and Timothy seem to preach against it in one way or another, but in the same letters they write about women not speaking in church, women not ever teaching men, and women keeping their heads covered at all times. Paul goes so far as to say it's best for people NEVER to get married (that the only reason we should is if we can't "control our lusts").

Even if I was against it...I wouldn't vote against it. That's denying people basic human rights, in my opinion.

Well.... I can tell you that the "marriage" between my sister and her parter is creating a lifetime of misery for their son. That kid is a symbol of their rebellion. Who cares that he is almost 5 and can barely speak? They don't even care, he is just the symbol of their rebellion.