YES!!!! WE did it!! we did it!!!

AgilityPup

Agility freak!
Joined
Aug 25, 2006
Messages
5,242
Likes
0
Points
0
Location
New Brunswick, Canada
#1
Ok, so in our agility classes, we are learing weaves my doing "two by twos" setting them up and outting th e dgos through them she that they know what to do and all, well before Zoey wasnt doing GREAT at them, you know doing them but at VERY little angles But today!! She was doing them ALMOST straight, So she ALMOST waeving!!! I know its nothing bug, but I thought I woud tell yall!!!:D


Shay and Zoey, the dog that can learn it all!!!:)
 

BostonBanker

Active Member
Joined
Jun 2, 2006
Messages
8,854
Likes
0
Points
36
Location
Vermont
#2
Woo-Hoo! That is a big deal! Weave poles are hard. I remember when Meg finally got them, going into class and telling the instructor that I didn't care if Meg never learned anything else - I was just so proud that she could weave!

Can you describe the "two-by-two" techinique for me? The school I take Meg to teaches them upright, and the instructor at the seminar I went to yesterday mentioned the 2x2, but I don't know what it is.

Meg weaving
[/IMG]
 

AgilityPup

Agility freak!
Joined
Aug 25, 2006
Messages
5,242
Likes
0
Points
0
Location
New Brunswick, Canada
#3
Ok 2x2s are like 2 poles set besie each other that you put 3 of the 2x2s in a row, and send your dog through them and keep changing them straighter and straighter until the dog is weaving 6 weave poles :) Ill get you some pics here in a min :p
 

sam

New Member
Joined
May 10, 2006
Messages
894
Likes
0
Points
0
Location
Western Canada
#4
Congrats! I think the 2X2 method is AWESOME esp for tecahing independent entries and independent weave pole performance. Nobody is using it here yet :rolleyes: I like the chute method / channel weaves for speed.
BB- the method is desribed in Susan Garrett's book Shaping Success which I think is one of the best training books EVER :p I think the method he changed a bit since that book came out though.
 

Muggie'sMum

Mistress Wigglebutt
Joined
Aug 26, 2006
Messages
517
Likes
0
Points
0
Location
New Brunswick, Canada
#6
And you first teach them that they must go through them, and then you tilt them more and more until they should be straight, resembling a set of six weave poles.... I couldn't for the life of me figure out the economics of how that would teach a weave until today *blonde*

I must say, AP and Zoey's weaves are kicking mine and Morrie's butts, BUT our downs kick her all the way to toledo and back. ;)
 

Muggie'sMum

Mistress Wigglebutt
Joined
Aug 26, 2006
Messages
517
Likes
0
Points
0
Location
New Brunswick, Canada
#7
Also, they say that dogs that learn by the two by two method as opposed to the luring method really have a lot more drive and make less mistakes through weaves in competition.
 
Joined
Oct 16, 2006
Messages
45
Likes
0
Points
0
#9
Congrats.. I think weaving is one of the hardest bits of equipment to train.

I have used the channel method with my dogs, but gone back to scratch and re-trained using the 2x2 to perfect entries and distance (it's great for a handler that doesn't know left from right :rolleyes:).

I've got a copy of a Susan Garrett article from Clean Run mag explaining the method if anyone wants it?
 
T

tessa_s212

Guest
#10
Bostonbaker, did you just lure to train?

Congrats Agilitypup! I know *I* was VERY excited when my pointer learned to weave(but by the v-weaves).
 

BostonBanker

Active Member
Joined
Jun 2, 2006
Messages
8,854
Likes
0
Points
36
Location
Vermont
#11
Bostonbaker, did you just lure to train?
Nope, zero luring. Just free-shaping with the clicker. I thought it was the craziest thing I'd ever heard, as the last school I was at taught a combo of the V's and the channels. But the free-shaped dogs just seem to "get it". It took probably a week to a week and a half for her to really start to be confident on the first entry and pole. Once she had one of them, she would do the whole line pretty quickly. I was really impressed with how well the method worked.

I've got a copy of a Susan Garrett article from Clean Run mag explaining the method if anyone wants it?
I would love to see it. I think I get how it works (and had typed up a long reply using lower-case "o"s to make diagrams...and of course they didn't come out right on the post:rolleyes: ), but am interested to see more.
 

BostonBanker

Active Member
Joined
Jun 2, 2006
Messages
8,854
Likes
0
Points
36
Location
Vermont
#14
Before I do, let me say that you have the cutest dog in the world! I love that picture of her in your sig:) .

The way we did it:

I would start out standing on the right side of the poles, with my left foot lined up with the second pole. With the dog behind me (I'd throw a treat backwards if I had to), I would simply stare at a spot on the ground on the left side of the gap between poles 1 & 2. Whenever Meg looked that way, click and throw the treat backwards so we could start again. She pretty quickly started to run through the gap. Once the entry was really confident, instead of throwing the treat behind, I'd treat between the second and third poles so she was basically doing the entry and the next pair. I believe the instructer calls it a "macaroni" (like the elbow shaped ones). Once that was confident, we'd work our way down the set, treating for each "elbow". Within about a week, Meg got to the point where she could do a set of six (all I have at home) with one treat at the end. She's gotten much more independant fairly quickly. I can be pretty much anywhere in relation to the poles and send her through (although now we are working on my being and the end and calling her through - that's harder!). She also had no issues her first time doing 12.

Like I said, that was the first time I've seen weave poles done like that, but I can say that the school I'm at now has many more dogs who are great on the weaves than the school I used to be at that did channels/v's. I'm really interested in seeing more about the 2x2 - they sound like they have a really good success rate as well.
 

AgilityPup

Agility freak!
Joined
Aug 25, 2006
Messages
5,242
Likes
0
Points
0
Location
New Brunswick, Canada
#16
Thanks BB. Zoey is rather cute isnt she :) LOL, Your Meg , is also VERY cute :p and thanks for explaining it, I may just try that methode with Shsha(my dane :))


Bm*d, thanks for the link, Ill check it out as soon as I have time :) thanks again :p
 

Members online

No members online now.

Latest posts

Top