What breeds are they?

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My friend thought we could create a thread where users could ask about breeds what they are and so on...:D (We didn't find any thread about this..) So, this thread doesn't need to be only for us. So, my friend thought she could start by asking which breed might the following dogs be?

We have seen this picture on newspaper:


So, does anyone know what breed are those dogs? :)

In addition to those dogs, my friend is interested in knowing also about these dogs:
She has seen three dogs outside (separately):

1) "miniature" of labrador retreaver. That dog was big but her/his limbs looked a little shorter than lab's, but only a little. He/she was otherwise similar to it. He/she was also black. That dog was probably also some kind of retreaver.

2) The second dog was similar to Malinois. He/she was also lightcolored but his/her whole head was grey. The snout looked narrower than in Malinois.

3) The third dog was very big and she/he had a long hair. My friend doesn't remember what kind of ears she/he had. That dog was brownish. He/she might have had also other colors. His/her barking was peculiar. It sounded like some person would have very bad cough. Note: that dog didn't have a cough but it only sounded like it. :rofl1: That was only a description.
 

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3) The third dog was very big and she/he had a long hair. My friend doesn't remember what kind of ears she/he had. That dog was brownish. He/she might have had also other colors. His/her barking was peculiar. It sounded like some person would have very bad cough. Note: that dog didn't have a cough but it only sounded like it. :rofl1: That was only a description.
Perhaps the dog had been debarked? That can create an odd hoarse bark for sure.
 

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1. was probably a lab. originally labs weren't the 100# plus monsters we now see. also it was common in the breed to be rectangular built instead of square. or could be a lab with very mild dwarfism
 
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1. was probably a lab. originally labs weren't the 100# plus monsters we now see. also it was common in the breed to be rectangular built instead of square. or could be a lab with very mild dwarfism
My friend would like to add that that dog look slightly different than a labrador retreaver. :) She thinks that the dog was normal size, not a dwarf...

Perhaps the dog had been debarked? That can create an odd hoarse bark for sure.
That's not possible, because we live in Finland and according to what my friend just read, one is not allowed to make those operations here. Besides, my friend has seen videos of dogs that are operated. They sounded more quiet than those that are not operated whereas that dog had a normal voice. S/he probably sounded like that because there are breeds that simply sound different than others. Like we have told, that dog was big...

So, the question still is: what might those breeds be? Those were only descriptions and my friend is giving also information about the dogs so you can tell what they were.
 

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It's very hard to determine breed or breed mix from just a description - perhaps there might be photos online that look similar you could share?
 
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So,we told that:

We have seen this picture on newspaper:


So, does anyone know what breed are those dogs? :)

In addition to those dogs, my friend is interested in knowing also about these dogs:
She has seen three dogs outside (separately):

1) "miniature" of labrador retreaver. That dog was big but her/his limbs looked a little shorter than lab's, but only a little. He/she was otherwise similar to it. He/she was also black. That dog was probably also some kind of retreaver.

2) The second dog was similar to Malinois. He/she was also lightcolored but his/her whole head was grey. The snout looked narrower than in Malinois.

3) The third dog was very big and she/he had a long hair. My friend doesn't remember what kind of ears she/he had. That dog was brownish. He/she might have had also other colors.
That dog was otherwise similar to Sarplaninac

Here is an article about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarplaninac

However, the barking of that breed sounds normal whereas his/her barking was peculiar. It sounded like some person would have very bad cough. Note: that dog didn't have a cough but it only sounded like it. :rofl1: That was only a description.

So, the question is: was that dog some other similar breed or is it still possible that it would had been Sarplaninac although his/her barking sounded different?

It's very hard to determine breed or breed mix from just a description - perhaps there might be photos online that look similar you could share?
Maybe you can link dog pictures and we could tell if some of them look similar to those other two (dog no. 1 & 2).
 

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Labs tend to come in all shapes and sizes to be honest.... I've seen many many variations, all look different from one another, but all labs.
 

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Mostly unrelated, but I know a couple dogs that bark like ducks. They haven't been debarked, they just sound funny.
 
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Does anyone still know what these dogs are:


So, does anyone know what breed are those dogs? :)

......//......

1) "miniature" labrador retreaver. That dog was big but her/his limbs looked a little shorter than lab's, but only a little. He/she was otherwise similar to it. He/she was also black. That dog was probably also some kind of retreaver.
Labs tend to come in all shapes and sizes to be honest.... I've seen many many variations, all look different from one another, but all labs.
We told earlier that that dog looked slightly different to labrador retriever. My friend wanted to add that the shape of the head of that dog was different to lab. So, does anyone know other black retrievers that are similar to lab?

2) The second dog was similar to Malinois. He/she was also lightcolored but his/her whole head was grey. The snout looked narrower than in Malinois
Does anyone still know what breed that was?

Mostly unrelated, but I know a couple dogs that bark like ducks. They haven't been debarked, they just sound funny.
You are probably saying that one individual might sound slightly different to other dogs of the same breed. Based on that comment it seems like one of the dogs we have asked about might have been Sarplaninac although s/he sounded different.
 

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People are doing the best they can to answer your questions with what little information they have. Stardog went as far as asking if you could find pictures of dogs similar to the parents and link them here, and you asked for us to find pictures and you'd tell us if that's what the parents look like. It makes more sense for you to find the pictures since you know what they look like.

About Lab heads- like Dizzy said, Labs these days have quite a varied look, including their heads. I've seen purebred Labs with heads as blocky and heavy as Rottweilers and Great Danes, and as narrow as Irish Setters.

Flat-Coated Retrievers look more like a cross between an Irish Setter and a Lab. They can be black or brown. They're becoming more popular these days. http://www.akc.org/breeds/flat_coated_retriever/index.cfm

Curlycoated Retrievers have a head more like a field bred Lab, but they aren't that common.
http://www.akc.org/breeds/curly_coated_retriever/index.cfm

Also, that dog that looked like a Lab could quite possibly have no Lab in it at all. It could be some kind of hound mix. ;)
 
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First of all, the whole thread was about that if those dogs we asked about are/were pure bred then what they are/were? We hadn't linked pictures because my friend has not that much knowledge of dog breeds. That's why we suggested that you would link them. We did link one because we had seen it on a newspaper. However, we have tried to explain as well as we can what they were like.

People are doing the best they can to answer your questions with what little information they have. Stardog went as far as asking if you could find pictures of dogs similar to the parents and link them here, and you asked for us to find pictures and you'd tell us if that's what the parents look like. It makes more sense for you to find the pictures since you know what they look like.

About Lab heads- like Dizzy said, Labs these days have quite a varied look, including their heads. I've seen purebred Labs with heads as blocky and heavy as Rottweilers and Great Danes, and as narrow as Irish Setters.

Flat-Coated Retrievers look more like a cross between an Irish Setter and a Lab. They can be black or brown. They're becoming more popular these days. http://www.akc.org/breeds/flat_coated_retriever/index.cfm

Curlycoated Retrievers have a head more like a field bred Lab, but they aren't that common.
http://www.akc.org/breeds/curly_coated_retriever/index.cfm

Also, that dog that looked like a Lab could quite possibly have no Lab in it at all. It could be some kind of hound mix. ;)
That black dog was neither of those two. My friend thought that that black dog was some kind of retriever but then she saw this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retriever
There is a list of retrievers there.

We had mentioned earlier that the head looked different to lab's head. This is what lab's head looks like:


Whereas that black dog's forehead was lower than lab's (See the blue line my friend added in the picture):


That black dog had short, straight hair. Feet were a little shorter than lab's. So, the whole dog was a little lower than lab, but not much. My friend still doesn't have any idea what kind of dog that was or what type he/she was.

Then there was the dog that looked similar to Malinoiss. My friend hasn't seen any picture of a dog that is similar to that dog. Read the description in the page 1.

Then there is the picture of those two other dogs.
 
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We told that:
the whole thread was about that if those dogs we asked about are/were pure bred then what they are/were? We hadn't linked pictures because my friend has not that much knowledge of dog breeds....//..... We did link one because we had seen it on a newspaper. However, we have tried to explain as well as we can what they were like.
We had told that one of those four dogs might have been sarplaninac. My friend doesn't even know in which breed group those three other dogs belong to. She doesn't either know what words to put in web search. So, does anyone still know what breed those dogs are/were?
 

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I think it's important to remember that different breeds are more and less common in different areas, and you may have breeds in Finland that many people on this forum have never even heard of before. Your description of the Sarplaninac made me think of a Leonberger, I had never heard of a Sarplaninac before you mentioned it. There are probably a lot of other dogs that fit that description too, like the Caucasian Ovcharka and the Karst shepherd and the Spanish mastiff. None of these dogs has an unusual bark, though. The dog your friend saw may have had a medical condition that caused it to bark strangely. It could have been imported from a country where debarking operations are allowed.

With hundreds of breeds all over the world to choose from, it's an impossible task for people around the world to try to guess what sort of dog you saw in your country from a description that reads "like a Labrador only different". Trying to give details about the shape of the head and proportions of the legs doesn't really help when you are asking people to guess from dozens of possibilities and breeds they may not be familiar with. This Wikipedia page has a list of many dog breeds with pictures beside them. It will probably be a whole lot more helpful that a bunch of people randomly guessing based on a short description. Even an extremely precise description can still fit several breeds.
 
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I think it's important to remember that different breeds are more and less common in different areas, and you may have breeds in Finland that many people on this forum have never even heard of before. Your description of the Sarplaninac made me think of a Leonberger, I had never heard of a Sarplaninac before you mentioned it. There are probably a lot of other dogs that fit that description too, like the Caucasian Ovcharka and the Karst shepherd and the Spanish mastiff. None of these dogs has an unusual bark, though. The dog your friend saw may have had a medical condition that caused it to bark strangely. It could have been imported from a country where debarking operations are allowed.
My friend hadn't heard about Sarplaninac either but she saw it in a breed list. Sarplaninac looks quite similar to the dog my friend had seen. If that dog was brought from somewhere she/he was probably from the country where that breed comes from. They probably don't do those operations there. Besides she/he told that:

Mostly unrelated, but I know a couple dogs that bark like ducks. They haven't been debarked, they just sound funny.
With hundreds of breeds all over the world to choose from, it's an impossible task for people around the world to try to guess what sort of dog you saw in your country from a description that reads "like a Labrador only different". Trying to give details about the shape of the head and proportions of the legs doesn't really help when you are asking people to guess from dozens of possibilities and breeds they may not be familiar with. This Wikipedia page has a list of many dog breeds with pictures beside them. It will probably be a whole lot more helpful that a bunch of people randomly guessing based on a short description. Even an extremely precise description can still fit several breeds.
My friend has looked in wikipedia. She has also looked in a few other addresses including The Finnish Breed Club. However, she hasn't found those three other breeds there. Does someone know other web pages where my friend could looking for them? Then she could try to find dogs that looks at least a little bit similar to them.
 

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These are all purebred labs from around the world. They are very common and there is a lot of variety in the breed. Different heads, different builds, different weights, proportion, etc.

Keep in mind that these are all pictures of well bred show or field labs. When you get into the world of pet bred labradors there is even more variety.













 

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