The Venting Thread

[Babyblue5290]

I tried and tried to get Talon's crate to fit in my car, but it's no use. It just won't work I was really hoping to get it to fit. I want to take the dogs out places together, like the park and switching them out. Last time I did that though a stray dog came over while I had Art out and Talon in the car and it sniffing and playing with Art caused Talon to have a meltdown in the car, scratching up my interior. Plus it would be nice to be able to take them to classes and be able to leave them in the car while I got things set up instead of having to bring them and try not dropping things lol

*sigh* worst part is Talon's crate is a 36'' one and it's pretty big for his size. However, I can't seem to find one that would fit the measurements with my hatchback except a variocage, but those are so expensive *cries*

 

[Babyblue5290]

This town and their service dogs. -_-

Standing in the ice cream section of the grocery store when I see a guy with a dog coming my way. So I step forward slightly to let them pass behind me. They were still a bit away but when they reach me the dog stops right next to me, stares and growls. A deep, low, scary growl. O_O The guy snaps at the dog, then tells it "LETS GO!" and snaps his finger a few more times before it finally decides to move on. The entire time I'm standing there not moving, not facing the dog, as I'm afaid any movement might set it off.

That's when I notice after they get a little ways past me the dog doesn't even have a freaking leash on. I don't care why you are using that dog, it should not be a service dog. It's not like I jumped out from around a corner, or made a sudden movement, or was in any way intimidating. That was a scary growl/freeze as well.

Oh and then there's the guy who comes into my job with a service dog, though well trained it has a bite record. And not for something stupid, this dog is terrified of people and won't hesitate to bite someone if they reach for it or even just get too close. My job refuses to do anything about him because the bite we know of happened in the parking lot and not inside the store. -_- That poor dog, you look at it and it freezes and get's whale eye in preperation.

Honestly, the guy is somewhat good at getting people not to touch the dog, but he definitely doesn't take it too seriously. He makes no actual motion to stop anyone, he just warns them (albeit firmly) that they shouldn't try to pet it. One guy just bent down in front of him in line and went to tie his shoes and the dog flipped it's lid. It's is a serious bite risk.

I don't understand how people can think it's acceptable to use a dog with these kind of issues as a service dog? I just don't get it.

 

[Brattina88]

I know its common but its setting their kids up to be behind once they reach school age ... also, a child (mom says) should be potty trained by the time it goes to preschool ... in fact, when I went to preschool, kids weren't allowed to enroll if they weren't.

It depends on the preschool, and liscensing. I know a preschool that a child entering preschool (3 and up) can have no more than 3 accidents a month or they're out (or have to go back to the toddler room). Their reasonings is they don't have a changing table in the room so per liscensing can't have pull ups / non potty trained kids.... And I know it's not the only preschool like that

But there are also plenty the other way, too with inclusion laws / special needs rules and IEPs I don't see how they can get away with that any longer, but that's just me but I guess obviously as a parent if you saw that in the parent handbook and you knew your child had issues in that area, I'd pick a different preschool because a child DOESN'T need that unnecessary stress (stop having accidents or you can't go to school any more? Are you kidding?)

My 2 cents Anyway opcorn:

 

[Laurelin]

Yeah even kids who generally do well have accidents. My preschool age niece peed in church a couple weeks ago. It happens with kids...

 

[LostAndConfused]

welp, there goes the shutter in the D80......I guess I know what will be going on my Christmas list

 

[Julee]

This town and their service dogs. -_-

Standing in the ice cream section of the grocery store when I see a guy with a dog coming my way. So I step forward slightly to let them pass behind me. They were still a bit away but when they reach me the dog stops right next to me, stares and growls. A deep, low, scary growl. O_O The guy snaps at the dog, then tells it "LETS GO!" and snaps his finger a few more times before it finally decides to move on. The entire time I'm standing there not moving, not facing the dog, as I'm afaid any movement might set it off.

That's when I notice after they get a little ways past me the dog doesn't even have a freaking leash on. I don't care why you are using that dog, it should not be a service dog. It's not like I jumped out from around a corner, or made a sudden movement, or was in any way intimidating. That was a scary growl/freeze as well.

Oh and then there's the guy who comes into my job with a service dog, though well trained it has a bite record. And not for something stupid, this dog is terrified of people and won't hesitate to bite someone if they reach for it or even just get too close. My job refuses to do anything about him because the bite we know of happened in the parking lot and not inside the store. -_- That poor dog, you look at it and it freezes and get's whale eye in preperation.

Honestly, the guy is somewhat good at getting people not to touch the dog, but he definitely doesn't take it too seriously. He makes no actual motion to stop anyone, he just warns them (albeit firmly) that they shouldn't try to pet it. One guy just bent down in front of him in line and went to tie his shoes and the dog flipped it's lid. It's is a serious bite risk.

I don't understand how people can think it's acceptable to use a dog with these kind of issues as a service dog? I just don't get it.

You are permitted to throw them out.

 

[sparks19]

This girl
Is
Potty trained but she's 3 so why wouldn't you send extra clothes just in case? We do have one boy who is not potty trained at all and he had a massively poopy diaper the other day. We don't have a
CHanging table and they are supposed to be potty trained but we do what we can. It was just chaos because his poopy diaper coincided with her pee all over the floor. So it was NUTS for a few minutes.

As for the girl that doesn't undertand english... It's a problem because she is very aggressive with the other kids and when she doesn't understand what we are saying, it's a problem. I mean... She grabs other kids by the hair and yanks them back if she wants something, she hits, she screams... It's frustrating because we feel like we are talkig at her and she's just like "huh?". We have other kids who struggle with english but they aren't hurting the other kids.

Couple that with my room teacher and te director not seeing eye to eye and constant conflict... It's going to be a long year and I don't know if I'm going to make it lol

 

[Dogdragoness]

It depends on the preschool, and liscensing. I know a preschool that a child entering preschool (3 and up) can have no more than 3 accidents a month or they're out (or have to go back to the toddler room). Their reasonings is they don't have a changing table in the room so per liscensing can't have pull ups / non potty trained kids.... And I know it's not the only preschool like that

But there are also plenty the other way, too with inclusion laws / special needs rules and IEPs I don't see how they can get away with that any longer, but that's just me but I guess obviously as a parent if you saw that in the parent handbook and you knew your child had issues in that area, I'd pick a different preschool because a child DOESN'T need that unnecessary stress (stop having accidents or you can't go to school any more? Are you kidding?)

My 2 cents Anyway opcorn:

My preschool and the one mom worked at (she was a teacher) would send kids home and revoke their enrollment if they had more than three accidents a month.

I also know more than a few the other way as well. If course accidents happen, not disputing that, but there is a big difference btw having an accident and just plain not knowing how to.

 

[Fran27]

Chris still had accidents all the time in preschool, but he waited until he was home at least... :rofl1:

So my vent... We bought the house 4 years ago. First year, one of the stove burners died. Second year, dishwasher. Third year, washing machine... and now the dryer. I'm so over this.

 

[sparks19]

Chris still had accidents all the time in preschool, but he waited until he was home at least... :rofl1:

So my vent... We bought the house 4 years ago. First year, one of the stove burners died. Second year, dishwasher. Third year, washing machine... and now the dryer. I'm so over this.

Ugh I'm sorry. That sucks. It seems home ownership always goes like that. WHY?!?!?! We've been in our house for 6 years and I swear we have replaced every bit of plumbing and every appliance that uses the plumbing. There is so much fixing up we could be doing but NOOOO thousands in plumbing

 

[Fran27]

Ugh I'm sorry. That sucks. It seems home ownership always goes like that. WHY?!?!?! We've been in our house for 6 years and I swear we have replaced every bit of plumbing and every appliance that uses the plumbing. There is so much fixing up we could be doing but NOOOO thousands in plumbing

Yeah, and we had to redo half the bathroom because we got massive leaks through the shower wall! And we get water in the basement too and haven't even started on fixing those. Renting was easier, I swear.

 

[Grab]

Chris still had accidents all the time in preschool, but he waited until he was home at least... :rofl1:
.

Clive has only had one accident since switching to his new school, but we still send extra clothing. Not only for accidents, but there can be juice spills, paint incidents, etc.

 

[sparks19]

Clive has only had one accident since switching to his new school, but we still send extra clothing. Not only for accidents, but there can be juice spills, paint incidents, etc.

Oh yeah... extra clothes just seem like a no brainer to me. So many things can go wrong with clothing lol. We use a water table from time to time as well and we do watch them closely to minimize spills... or SPLASHING each other :rofl1: but sometimes you just need a dry shirt.

 

[JazzyTheSibe]

Since I'm in my senior year of High School(yay!), I'm starting to really look into my career. Which is a Veterinarian Technician. The thing is, I'm getting more,& more worried. Needing to euthanize dogs, seeing them in absolute horrid conditions, seeing dogs deteriorate, with no chance of improving-sounds depressing as hell. I'm naturally a very sensitive person, so, I just don't know if I can deal with everything. And, while researching, this field has one of the highest depression(& suicide rates) out of any career. Which is worrisome, because I do have depression.

Though, there's also so much good. Helping dogs improve from horrible situations, seeing health dogs, being able to improve a dogs situation,& simply being around dogs.

Decisions, Decisions.

 

[Paviche]

I'm really hungry and also kind of nauseous. Ugh. This sucks.

 

[Moth]

Since I'm in my senior year of High School(yay!), I'm starting to really look into my career. Which is a Veterinarian Technician. The thing is, I'm getting more,& more worried. Needing to euthanize dogs, seeing them in absolute horrid conditions, seeing dogs deteriorate, with no chance of improving-sounds depressing as hell. I'm naturally a very sensitive person, so, I just don't know if I can deal with everything. And, while researching, this field has one of the highest depression(& suicide rates) out of any career. Which is worrisome, because I do have depression.

Though, there's also so much good. Helping dogs improve from horrible situations, seeing health dogs, being able to improve a dogs situation,& simply being around dogs.

Decisions, Decisions.

Working in the veterinary field can be really hard. I worked as a vet assistant for quite some time. I remember some really hard days...but I also remember some really wonderful experiences.

There really were moments that made those hard to bear time so worth it...

I guess you won't really know how it will affect you until you try it out. Is there any way you could shadow someone in the field?

 

[crazedACD]

Since I'm in my senior year of High School(yay!), I'm starting to really look into my career. Which is a Veterinarian Technician. The thing is, I'm getting more,& more worried. Needing to euthanize dogs, seeing them in absolute horrid conditions, seeing dogs deteriorate, with no chance of improving-sounds depressing as hell. I'm naturally a very sensitive person, so, I just don't know if I can deal with everything. And, while researching, this field has one of the highest depression(& suicide rates) out of any career. Which is worrisome, because I do have depression.

Though, there's also so much good. Helping dogs improve from horrible situations, seeing health dogs, being able to improve a dogs situation,& simply being around dogs.

Decisions, Decisions.

This isn't going to sound encouraging and I'm sorry in advance . I think you can get used to euthanizing, and get used to seeing them in bad condition, and you get used to frustrating situations. For the most part, in a normal clinic, you do vaccines. Puppy visits. Skin problems. Dentals. Spay and neuters. Split toenails. Certainly there weren't bad problems everyday. Emergency clinics would be very different.
There are a lot of good and wonderful people. But the two vet clinics I worked at, the behind the scenes "dirty little secrets" I couldn't handle. I can deal with a lot of crap and I did deal with it, but in the end their practices disgusted me. I've considered getting a CVT but I'm quite wary. If I ever did, I would certainly cherry pick where I want to work.
I think if you really want to make a career out of it where you can support yourself, do it right and figure out how to go beyond a simple CVT. Try to specialize or double major in business or something like that. It is an awful lot of work, mentally and physically, for very little pay in the grand scheme. From what I've seen you might come out of college making $12-14/hour...which is tough to live on.

 

[Southpaw]

Since I'm in my senior year of High School(yay!), I'm starting to really look into my career. Which is a Veterinarian Technician. The thing is, I'm getting more,& more worried. Needing to euthanize dogs, seeing them in absolute horrid conditions, seeing dogs deteriorate, with no chance of improving-sounds depressing as hell. I'm naturally a very sensitive person, so, I just don't know if I can deal with everything. And, while researching, this field has one of the highest depression(& suicide rates) out of any career. Which is worrisome, because I do have depression.

Though, there's also so much good. Helping dogs improve from horrible situations, seeing health dogs, being able to improve a dogs situation,& simply being around dogs.

Decisions, Decisions.

If you're just at a general practice, most days are just routine simple things. You see some crappy things but there's a lot of good too. If I have a bad day it's usually because people are just annoying, and not actually related to animals at all. I always thought euthanasias would be really hard for me - and they're not "easy," don't get me wrong - but I've been able to just accept it for what it was and understand that oftentimes it is the best decision (we don't do "convenience" euths so all the ones we do ARE sick animals). But I'm kind of free with my emotions involving them, too. On more than one occasion I have cried over a euth and have no shame in doing so, which probably helps vs. trying to just internalize it.

 

[sassafras]

A lot depends on where you work and your clientele, Jazzy. Most of the stuff that threatens to burn me out is stuff anyone who deals with the general public on a regular basis would have to deal with. And you have to learn to set boundaries and stick to them, and otherwise take care of yourself. Veterinary technicians are notoriously underpaid and overworked, and there are a lot of crappy bosses and dysfunctional practices out there. But a lot of great ones, too.

But the work itself... yes, it can suck and be sad but it can be incredibly satisfying as well. I'm very fortunate to work somewhere that I click philosophically and we have really amazing clients, that makes it easier. I don't see a lot of the emotionally truly yucky stuff - abuse, neglect, preventable diseases, etc. Working somewhere that doesn't do convenience euthanasias makes that easier to bear - as Southpaw said, you know at least that you're ending suffering.

 

[JessLough]

Do techs actually commonly do euthanasias there?

It's definitely always the vet around here. The one time a tech was actually present when i was there for a euth was when I was waiting for my mom to come when we had Rosey euthanized. I was offered a tech to sit with me, but declined, so they just came by and looked in the window every so often. Oh, and when I had Harley waiting for my dad to get there, but that was only when I brought her to the back room for oxygen.