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The kids I went to school with that had "buddy" parents were usually the ones in trouble or were alcoholics at 17 or something along those lines. You can be "friends" with your kids at some point, but only well after the rules have been established and respect earned. It's like playing tug with dogs...some people screw it up royally because they ignore the proper way to do it (rules, balances, etc) and others don't have a single issue because they're doing it "right". Now, that's a very generalized syllogism, I realize but the basic point is the same.
The ones I noticed that were like this were ones who had parents who just didnt give a **** about what their kids did.

Those kids didnt know what boundaries were appropriate.

Just because I didnt have a curfew didnt mean I was out at 3am drinking at parties. I normally came home around midnight on the weekends. (Didnt hurt that all my friends had curfews lol)
 

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see i was a lil different, i asked WHY alot, even form a very early age, my parents didnt treat it as talking back or being cocky, they knew i was just a truly curious child (i am a sag after all lol) so instead of a dont ask or there will be trouble they would explain why...

now as zoom said, my parents were not the "go out do what you want, were busddies here a kegger invite your frineds" kind of parents...
i did not have a curfew, but i ddnt need one...i knew if i stayed out late id be tired for school the next day...
but i also knew if i said id be home by 9pm and need an extra hour or 2 all i had to do was call, and as long as id done my home work and chores and my parents knew id be getting up for school the next morning, they wouldnt give me any issues.

they explained to me the issues with smoking, how addictive it is and how hard it is to quit along with cost, and my dad used to smoke, i respected their explanation and never bothered trying it...
same whent for drugs, they explained what could happen and told me to reserch it myself...i did and never felt a need to do drugs...
drinking...starting young mum and dad would do like they do in france, waterd down wine (its good for your heart), we were taught from day day one, drinking once in a while is fine in the saftey of your home...taught why to respect the drink, and i never felt the need to drink excessivly...

i think the point is, some kids dont NEED harsher methods, sometimes a firm no and when there old enough to ask why and understand an explanation is all they realy need...
other kids are more rebellious, more apt to say no...they may need a firmer hand.

however when it crosses the line into "do as your told or ill beat you" that is absolutly over the line.
i think physical force should be used only when absolutly needed, in a dangerous situation, ect.

but in it all, ive also been told im a monster because i dont personally see anything wrong with "leashing" your child and aparently alot of people in this country feel theres something wrong with that (and let their kids run around like maniacs!).
i also see no issue with breast feeding in public, disaplining your child in public (again within reason) or kids running around nekkid in their yard in the nice weather ect...
 
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What my parents did as punishment was make me stand in a corner for time out. No sitting, that's easy. Sometimes I had to stand army style, where you had to hold your weigh up off the wall with your hands, while your feet are 3 feet behind you. I'd stand there for an hour or more sometimes. I didn't dare move or I'd get worse, a spanking. I'd have to touch my toes while getting 3 swats.

My parents were kinda harsh. Some things worked, but some things were pushed way too far. I remember spatulas and spoons being used on my sister, which I don't believe in. When I passed the age of 13, things got abusive because I was rebelious. The abuse just made me act out even more, because my feelings turned into hatred.

But as far as time outs go, ill be using the standing method. Sitting is, um, easy. As a kid, I would have LOVED to sit in time out!!!
 
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IF a child is just a very obedient, compliant child that never does any wrong, of course I understand that punishment wouldn't be necessary. I'm fine with that. Honestly, if I had good parents perhaps I'd be in the same position saying "I was never punished", for I truly was a wonderful, easy teenager that was involved in all the right things (volunteering, helping others, abstinence programs, etc) because *I* wanted to be involved in them by choice. But as I looked around me as a teenager and saw what other parents had to deal with, I KNOW that not all kids are as insightful and responsible as I was. My fear is that my child won't be as easy as I was! I do hope my child can be talked to and explained why things are wrong, with possibly only minor punishments, but if he's strong willed and stubborn, I'm prepared to be a consistent parent that enforces the rules.
 

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When I was little my mom was big into the "chose your consequence." It was usually that I had a "time out," had to do a small chore, had a privilege taken away, etc. So I did something one time and my mom asked me to chose the consequence that fit my action and I asked to be spanked. Mom was horrified (she was not a spanker)--she told me that she was NOT going to spank me for whatever I had done and had me pick another.

Apparently in my 5 year old brain the cost/benefit analysis of the situation concluded that the spanking would be shorter than a time out, less work than a chore, and would suck less than not be able to do something I wanted....
My parents did something like that when we were kids, it was get a spanking or go without dinner. I would always go without dinner, but my sister would always take the spanking. Some things work better with different kids.
 

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I'm pretty sure I"m never having kids because I'm pretty sure they'd turn out like me. Now, I wasn't a horrid brat or anything, but boy did I have my independent stubborn streak and there were just some days when I wasn't going to take "no" for an answer. And telling that what I was doing was wrong didn't really make me care at that point. Time out only works when the child accepts that they are in timeout for a reason. I needed a better reason to sit in a corner and be bored for 5 minutes than just "you're in trouble, go sit down." Big friggin' whoop. I'd get up after what I thought was 5 minutes (more like 30 seconds) and go back to what I was doing. Now, a swat on the bum and "Stay put until I say you can get up or you'll get another one AND ________ (insert a dire threat like, no playing outside after dinner) got my attention. Captain ADD over here didn't always understand that the words being spoken were aimed and meant for her.

I'm so glad that those parents who can make their children behave with a simple "no" were able to do that. I'd like to know what mind control ray you aimed at them when they were sleeping, too! :rofl1: I'm kidding...my younger brother was like that until about 14...all you had to do was give him a stern look and he would settle down. Then again, I'm sure he learned from watching me what happened when you persisted in doing your own thing.
We must've been separated at birth ;)

I was BAD. Not so much in the doing bad things category, but I am my mother's daughter - controlling, stubborn, easily bored, and I am ALWAYS right. I was a horrible back-talker, bullied my younger brother, drove my parents batty, broke curfew, cursed, threw tantrums, and made my Grandma cry once. That hurt the most - seeing tears because I couldn't listen to what others were saying. I got my mouth washed out with soap, had to stand in the corner with my nose touching the wall countless times, was spanked, slapped, grounded, screamed at, cursed at...

Did I end up a bad person? Not so much. Did it teach me to open up to my parents? No. I still can't share my feelings with them. Do I respect my parents? Maybe. Do I think they tried their best? I think a lot of what they did was a last resort - reasoning with me didn't work, time outs had no effect, soap had no effect...sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Do I condone what they did? No.

There's no such thing as the perfect parent.
 

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I dont think its that big a deal.. its not CPS worthy or anything.
but it is a bit umm.. old school lol I didnt even think people still did that

I think grounding and taking away priveledges is way more appropriate

I never cursed at my parents, but I did slam the door on my mom once.. and guess what? I lost the door for 3 months lol worked a lot better that washing my mouth with soap would and I actually LEARNED THE LESSON

the trouble with washing with soap and things like that is that the kid doesn't really learn anything.. ya, soap probably tastes gross but I think in todays world, taking away a kids DS or computer time gets the message across a lot better than soap
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My friends just did that a while back with their 14 year old daughter, she was horrified and NEVER slammed it again!!!

As for the soap deal, use dove!!!:D (((Kidding)))

I think it is pretty old school as well... thankfully I never had to worry with my kids on that front.
 

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I just think parents forget that they aren't meant to be their child's best friend. You are their parent, and that requires (well, it should) you be consistent with consequences and discipline. To hear all this "I was NEVER punished as a child" honestly scares me, and that isn't the kind of parent I want to be.I couldn't imagine letting my child get away with misbehaving for the sake of being their friend and not "abusing" them. When my child misbehaves there will be consequences that fit the crime, whether that be a time-out, privileges being taken away, or even a swat on the butt. So long as the child is explained why it is wrong, why they are being punished and it isn't done in anger.. it is not abuse. I've suffered through abuse, and it really irritates me to see something like a small swat on the butt being called abuse. :(
I never outright punished my children, but then, I never had too.... I raised my kids very liberal.... I had very few firm rules, but respect was a MUST.....

My kids just seemed to know, from looks and tone of voice when they were pushing their luck.... and quit fast:D

I am close with my daughter, very much a mother/ daughter relationship, but a "friendly" one as well...

My son and I have a more traditional relationship, but he is very close with his Dad.

I think that having the friend in there, along with the "Mom" is why my daughter is comfortable coming to me with any problem/ concern... where if I was strictly "Mom" she may not be....

I am very proud of my kids, they are both respectful, hardworking young adults, whom I am constantly told by people they are in contact with are great kids!!

They both have friends who use our place as a safe place as well.... and that makes me feel we did something right.

Dangerous situations are different IMO



Clearly this is directed towards me.

Who said I misbehaved? My parents gave me freedom. No I never was grounded, but I never needed to be.

I am 23 years old. I have my own house. I take care of 3 dogs. I dont have any kids, I havent ever done drugs. I dont drink to excess. I call my grandmother in NY every Sunday JUST to chat.

I turned out JUST fine thank you very much. My parents were not "scared" to discipline me, they just gave me enough freedom where I never required it. I NEVER not ONCE snuck out of my house. I never had to. BUT my parents knew where I was at all times, and if they said no to something, I respected that.

I fail to see how my parents raised me wrong.
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Yes, but if they didn't need punishment, that is different than needing it and the parent not stepping up to the plate. You're right, some kids are just really good kids. But there are those kids that do need boundaries, consequences and punishments, and my concern is when the parents of such children do not apply consequences.

My child is still a baby. I haven't gone through any teen years yet. I only know what I've learned through experiencing my own parent's mistakes and accomplishments, my friend's parents, and my adult friends who already have gone through the teenage years. I've seen the results of those that are too lenient and accepting, because they want to be friends. I've seen and experience the result of the "I'm the BOSS!" kind of parenting. And then I've seen the results of those parents that are serious bout their job, but still care about their child's concerns and feelings without feeling as though they need to be their best friend. IMO, there needs to be a balance. A child should know you are not there to be their best friend, but instead that you are there to help them, to guide them, to protect them, to parent them, to apply boundaries and consequences and to love them like no other human being could ever love them in a million years.
 

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IF a child is just a very obedient, compliant child that never does any wrong, of course I understand that punishment wouldn't be necessary. I'm fine with that. Honestly, if I had good parents perhaps I'd be in the same position saying "I was never punished", for I truly was a wonderful, easy teenager that was involved in all the right things (volunteering, helping others, abstinence programs, etc) because *I* wanted to be involved in them by choice. But as I looked around me as a teenager and saw what other parents had to deal with, I KNOW that not all kids are as insightful and responsible as I was. My fear is that my child won't be as easy as I was! I do hope my child can be talked to and explained why things are wrong, with possibly only minor punishments, but if he's strong willed and stubborn, I'm prepared to be a consistent parent that enforces the rules.
My kids did things wrong, and I talked with them about them..... Just nothing very serious...

My kids also asked why, I don't think there is a darn thing wrong with that... I always told them *why* and if they did not understand, I tried to come at it a different way... 99% of the time they may not have agreed, but understood that we had reasons for not allowing something...

I was not my kids Bestest friend, I did not want to be...... I also did not want to be an intimidating Parental figure they were not comfortable talking to...

In the end, our kids are pretty well raised and I am pretty proud of the results, we were not perfect parents, and my kids are not perfect either.... However they are respectful, hardworking young adults on their way to being contributing members of society, whom have earned the respect of teachers and employers and have healthy relationships with their peers and family. What more could you ask for?


Yes, but if they didn't need punishment, that is different than needing it and the parent not stepping up to the plate. You're right, some kids are just really good kids. But there are those kids that do need boundaries, consequences and punishments, and my concern is when the parents of such children do not apply consequences.

My child is still a baby. I haven't gone through any teen years yet. I only know what I've learned through experiencing my own parent's mistakes and accomplishments, my friend's parents, and my adult friends who already have gone through the teenage years. I've seen the results of those that are too lenient and accepting, because they want to be friends. I've seen and experience the result of the "I'm the BOSS!" kind of parenting. And then I've seen the results of those parents that are serious bout their job, but still care about their child's concerns and feelings without feeling as though they need to be their best friend. IMO, there needs to be a balance. A child should know you are not there to be their best friend, but instead that you are there to help them, to guide them, to protect them, to parent them, to apply boundaries and consequences and to love them like no other human being could ever love them in a million years.
My kids did have boundaries, they knew their limits and when they could test them...

We were never lenient because we wanted to be friends, ever.... In fact we were liberal, but not lenient if that makes sense?

We simply wanted to have the type of relationship where our kids were not afraid to talk with us about something they may be to worried/embarrassed to is we were intimidating parents, who they did not feel they could openly talk to...

It worked, there were moments my daughter was almost too open with me about her feelings, or what was going on in her life, but she looked to me for support and guidance and I was there for it....

I have no regrets at all, and am glad that we have the relationship we do!

There is a big difference between that, and wanting to be "buddies" with your kids... imo
 

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dont worry... if I need to discipline my daughter I will NOT come to anyone one. I will do what I fell nessecary :)

if I had to come or announce to others then not sure that I am confident enough to be a parent

tear me apart for spanking my child? LMAO... well you have fun. I don't give a flying fig. MY parenting style is NOT based on what ANYONE thinks of me. again... her life is MY responsibility not YOURs. so if you dont' like it... well you can go pound salt :)

I will not tell you how to parent and PLEASE do NOT tell me how to parent.
 

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dont worry... if I need to discipline my daughter I will NOT come to anyone one. I will do what I fell nessecary :)

if I had to come or announce to others then not sure that I am confident enough to be a parent

tear me apart for spanking my child? LMAO... well you have fun. I don't give a flying fig. MY parenting style is NOT based on what ANYONE thinks of me. again... her life is MY responsibility not YOURs. so if you dont' like it... well you can go pound salt :)

I will not tell you how to parent and PLEASE do NOT tell me how to parent.
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Hard to argue with that...... :D

That's where the respect issue comes in I may parent different from someone but will not, unless they are abusing their child, tell them how to raise their kids, and, though when my kids were older I had no cause to, I did just a minute ago when talking with hubby... remember that we spanked Jenn once, she was a toddler and fascinated with sticking things into wall plugs anytime the chance presented itself... we had covers at home, but this happened a few times at relatives houses... I also recall being told we should have explained to her why not to... Ummmm sure, because a toddler will understand that idea of death....
 

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LMAO lauraleigh.

I know... that's such BS. YOu know who tells you that? people who don't have kids or who have OLDER kids and have forgotten about THAT sort of thing.

gone to grandparents houses lately? Not fully child proofed yet they know you are coming and have raised you... its NOT like riding a bike. you forget these things.

and NO to a two year old is HILARIOUS. I sometimes wonder if those who say NO was enough through ALL their kids lives was enough might have labor brain. YOu know... the one that says "labor wasn't bad at all... kind of enjoyed it." then when you get back there you think WHAT THE HECK WAS I THINKING :D
 

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My mouth was washed out with soap(bar or the liquidy kind, depends how bad I was and what was around) and I thought it was really effective and I'm certainly not "scarred" from the horrid "abuse" of my mouth being washed out, haha. I learned not to say bad words fast, and when I did say it, I knew what was coming to me. I would hardly call myself abused, lol.

I probably won't do that to my kids simply because some people think it's abusive and I wouldn't want to get in trouble. Personally I think that view is a little off.

I think how you decide to punish your child should be your legal right and completely up to the parent, as long as the child doesn't end up with serious bruises or anything worse than that, I don't see how it's anyone elses business.

ETA- My parents, mom especially, was a rule enforcing parent as well as my friend at the same time. While I was punished for not following rules, I still was able to ask questions and make most of my own choices as long as it wasn't harmful to myself. I always knew that if I made a bad choice, for example, if I was too drunk to drive home that they would come and get me, not ask questions, and I would not be in trouble. I was never in a bad place like that and generally made good choices for my life, but I always knew that I had the option of coming to my mom if I had to for help and she would never punish me for it. BUT, I was scared of her! She still carried out punishments and I was scared of them, which I think is a good thing. I think my worst punishment was probably sentences.. I hated those. I'd have rathered get my mouth rinsed with soap than that haha.
 

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Do you want a medal for "Best Child Ever"? You seriously mean that your mother never imposed rules, made you mad because you had to stay home to mow the lawn instead of going out to the movies for the 8th time that week? I imagine your parents were still PARENTS and weren't "oh, hey, buddy-child, yeah go do whatever the fsck you want, it's cool, 'cause we're buddies. Oh, no curfew for you, yeah it's totally awesome if you have your friends over for a kegger, because I'm your cool buddy like that".
I never had a curfew...I never needed one. I didn't ever want to go out with friends really, and so I rarely did. I never had limits set on my phone usage, because I never talked on the phone (I hate the phone). I never had to be told I can't go to the movies because I hate theatres - I've only been to a movie theatre once, when I was maybe 4 or 5, and I don't plan to ever go again. I volunteered to wash dishes 2or 3 times a day because I LOVED to play in the water. It gave me an excuse to run water in the sink, one of my favorite things (that being said I'd get yelled at for running water for no reason, so I learned that when they asked what I was doing, I should turn the water off, say "Nothing!" and go to a different sink. In hindsight, I'm positive that was one of my stims as a child, as it's one of my stims to this very day :lol-sign:). When I was a young child, I was more trouble than once I was in the last couple years of elementary school and later. I NEVER got in trouble in school. We had a "Penny system" in first grade, where you had to pay a penny (fake pennies) if you got in trouble. You could save the pennies and buy stuff at the end of the week. If you saved enough, you could go out to lunch with the teacher. I did that many times. Once the entire class had to pay a penny, for something trivial at that. I did nothing wrong, but I obliged...then started crying (only the 2nd time I've ever cried in school, and the last time I ever cried in school). I was asked what was wrong, told the teacher, and then told him the people in addition to myself that didn't do anything wrong (there were 4 or 5 of us), and we all got our pennies back. Not because I cired, but because it really WAS unjust to punsih those that did nothing wrong just to make sure those who did something wrong got punished, and I was a very honest and trustworthy student (I still find it very hard to lie...withholding information is much easer ;)) I never had to be told to do my homework because for the first few years I had homework I LIKED it (I don't know wtf was wrong with me lmao).

As I said earlier, it was rarely explained to me at home why I was punished. In school I heard all the explanations why someone else was punished for something, and I learned that it wasn't a good thing to do, so I didn't do it. Once, there was a boy in my class that was missing something, so he went through other students' desks looking for it The teacher told him it wasn't a good thing to do because everyone needs some privacy. Then he told everyone else to go look in that kid's desk. I didn't like that, because we were all lines up and made to look. I just glanced in and was irritated, because after all he didn't go rummaging through MY desk, so I felt it wasn't my place to go looking through his. Other kids took it as a free-for-all and moved his stuff around and everything. I felt sorry for the kid :(

I stand corrected - I was talked to sternly by my 3rd grade teacher because my folders were messy. She told me I needed to organize them so I could find everything I needed. She then (as an example) asked me yo get something out. I opened my folder and pulled the paper out and give it to her instantly. I did the same for 2 or 3 other things, then she apologized because apparently I knew where everything was. (She was my favorite teacher EVAR).


Once when i was older say 8 or 9 my mum kicked me out of the house and told me never to come back ever again. It was dark and I was scared of the dark and I honestly thought she meant it. She left me out there for half an hour before she told me to come in and do my homework she never said she was sorry she just carried on as normal .
Had my parents done that to me, I would have left and not come back. Even at 8 or 9. My parents did on more than on occasion threaten to call and have me taken away. I dared them to once, and nothing happened. Of course when I tell them about it now, they deny it ever happened :rolleyes:


(In retrospect, the following is really just a rant, so read if you want, but it's really not that important to the discussion. But I took the time to type it all out, I'm not deleting it now :rofl1:)


As I said before, I'm not against physical punishment as long as it's explained and not unnecessarily brutal. I don't care if you think you kid can't understand - try anyway. It can't hurt anything to explain WHY they were punished even if they are very young. I don't think swatting a butt on occasion in and of itself is lazy, but I think not explaining it is. So what if they're too young to understand, at least you'll be well in the habit of explaining by the time they can fully understand. All not explaining things did for me was teach me to withhold information from my parents. from about 2nd grade on I only told my parents things I knew they would approve of. I didn't tell my parents when I found out one of my friends was spreading rumors about me. I didn't tell my parents that I didn't have any real friends throughout school (my mom swears up and down I had hordes of friends in school...nobody ever came over though, I never went anywhere with anyone, I rarely got invited to a party, and when I did it was something where everyone got invited). I didn't tell them that one time I kept on talking in school after I knew we were supposed to stop on purpose just to make my teacher happy (she had said at a conference that she wished she could tell me to be quiet once, but in the 3 years she was my teacher [2nd, 4th and 5th grade] she never got to...I took it seriously and wanted to make her happy...oddly enough, she was actually pleased lol). I didn't tell them that my orchestra director my sophomore year in high school pissed me off so much I almost gave up on music altogether. I didn't tell her about all the times I forgot about homework in high school and ended up doing it in the bathroom with the door locked and a flashlight until 3 in the morning. Even today I'm not comfortable sharing information with people. I never had any intentions of telling my parents after I got diagnosed with an ASD for fear of how they'd respond - I did however tell my little brother (whom I have always trusted, and he really is my best friend), and then he told them. As I predicted, my mom said it was ridiculous and there was no way I was autistic. It was nearly a year later when she finally accepted my diagnosis, and only because I planted a fact sheet on ASDs where she would read it. I didn't tell my parents when I had my first date (just a few weeks before I turned 21). I didn't tell my parents when I had a short-term long-distance relationship (shortly after I turned 21). I'm not planning on telling them that I new have realized I'm actually asexual and don't plan on ever having another date. I'm not telling them I plan on getting a service dog. It took months before I told them I changed from a bio major to a psych major and no longer wanted to become a vet - I only told them when I would be obvious that that's what I was doing, as they do ask what classes I'm taking. They still don't know that I'm planning on training dogs for adults on the spectrum, and not dogs for traditional disabilities (though my dad did show me a tether article last week :eek:). They know so little about me.
 

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Noodle, I wasn't that bad when I got older...I learned to sort of temper my outward activities and though I would make it known that I was *not happy* with having the curfew I had, I would still follow it. I never snuck out, didn't drink until college, all that stuff.

Saeleofu: Are you happy with your parents not knowing so much about you? It seems like you deliberately walled them off because...why? They didn't understand you? Heck my parents don't understand things about me or my brothers and at least with me, I talk to my mom about just about everything.
 
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dont worry... if I need to discipline my daughter I will NOT come to anyone one. I will do what I fell nessecary :)

if I had to come or announce to others then not sure that I am confident enough to be a parent

tear me apart for spanking my child? LMAO... well you have fun. I don't give a flying fig. MY parenting style is NOT based on what ANYONE thinks of me. again... her life is MY responsibility not YOURs. so if you dont' like it... well you can go pound salt :)

I will not tell you how to parent and PLEASE do NOT tell me how to parent.
I hope this wasn't aimed at me. I dont tell people how to parent their kids. Im not a parent. But I was a full time employee at tutor time daycare, and just by the way the kids acted I could tell what their parents were like.

I think a lot has to do with the kid, as its been stated. A kid that isnt getting punishment but NEEDS it is very different than a kid who behaves. I just happen to think that if the kid NEEDS punishment, more should be being done to get to the root cause.

And Im talking more in the teenage years here. Im not talking about curious toddlers that wont understand and explanation of "why." Im talking more rebellious teenagers.
 

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Saeleofu: Are you happy with your parents not knowing so much about you? It seems like you deliberately walled them off because...why? They didn't understand you? Heck my parents don't understand things about me or my brothers and at least with me, I talk to my mom about just about everything.
Mainly because life is easier without getting them involved. I can't ever predict how they will react to any given thing, so I just don't bother mentioning it. Out family teases eachother a lot too - yeah, it's supposed to be all in fun, but I don't particularly like it, so if I don't provide anything for them to make fun of, they can't make fun of me. My mom is worse about that than my dad. I'm more open with my dad than I am with my mom.
 

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As for the buddy parent thing. i think its fine to be buddies with your kid, but I think thats after a certain age

for my whole life my mom has been my PARENT first and foremost, of course we talked about stuff and she was in a way my friend. but really, it was just mom/higher authority

this whole buddy thing with us actually is starting to blossom now, as im in college and I think its just..natural. since im no longer living with her, its easier for her to become and take more a friend role

Respect in my house was a 2 way street. in return for being generally a good teen, I got freedom

I never had a curfew BUT she had to know where I was and I had to keep my cellphone on me and let her know when I planned to be home/text her otherwise.

and a lot of the rules were a lot like that.. give a little, take a little.

I wasn't a perfect teenager . I sometimes slipped up.. and for that, there were consequences and freedoms taken away.

Slamming the door of my bedroom? goodbye door

Refusing to wake up for school? School in my pajamas.. (she only brought me to the front of the school then threw me a change of clothes lol but it was enough to teach me to GET UP AND GET READY)

Dont eat a lil bit of each part of the meal, including veggies? No dessert


except for the iron clad "BECAUSE I SAID SO" mom law it was very give and take lol. If i asked her to do something and she said "NO" and followed with "Because I said so".. I never even pushed further. if she felt that strongly about it.. i didnt go.
 

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