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Wow, when i first read this, i felt like "poor dogs, got "oopsed" because of a move" I wanted to wish the owner a lucky birthing and pray that she either alters one or both of the dogs after the fact. But after seeing the site, it seems planned (which is silly and I am not even a breeder) The Guarantee, seems a bit much too. I hope all the puppies find good homes. good luck to the mom.
I'm not sure what to say. If this was planned...I am very ashamed that I looked up to you as a person I thought highly of here. But even then you knew when she would come into heat and you could have prevented this from happening. I am not sure I would call LB a BYB yet, but it's not the far away.
I hope Tire is able to make it through this litter easily and then will be spayed ASAP.
I hope Tire is able to make it through this litter easily and then will be spayed ASAP.
This breeding was intentional. You know when a bitch is in heat and you are smart enought to figure out a way to separate two dogs and you didn't. You wanted to breed Labs and now you have. I hope dam and pups make it safe and sound and as much as I hope a spay and neuter will follow this breeding, I know it wont. 
*shakes head* What next?
Like Grammy says, for the lurkers....THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS SELFISH, IGNORANT NONSENSE. THE OP SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE ASHAMED. POOR DOGS
For those who are not familiar with the OP, search some of her more recent posts to see the conditions that the family and therefore the dogs live in and the total lack of knowledge or basic care or concern with regards to breeding these dogs.
Like Grammy says, for the lurkers....THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS SELFISH, IGNORANT NONSENSE. THE OP SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE ASHAMED. POOR DOGS
For those who are not familiar with the OP, search some of her more recent posts to see the conditions that the family and therefore the dogs live in and the total lack of knowledge or basic care or concern with regards to breeding these dogs.
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I hope the pups will be on a limited registration and that good homes that will spay/neuter will be the emphasis (and NOT price .. these are pups coming from non-proven, non-health tested stock and therefore do not warrant a high price in any way).
An "oops" simply means "I wasn't paying attention at a time when I should have been" .. and in this particular situation, all the signs point toward this being a deliberate breeding anyway.
You know what frustrates me even more than anything else? Even with all the dogs in shelters and rescues, there's a place for responsible breeders out there. There's a place for breeders who are doing their best to breed quality dogs from breeding stock that is proven to be genetically healthy, conformationally correct, intelligent and excellent examples of the breed. You could have tried to be one of these breeders, but instead you made the choice (and it WAS a choice) to just breed two dogs that happened to have registration papers. THIS is the type of breeder that makes people dislike breeders.
And if this HAD been an "oops" .. a responsible breeder would have said "okay, I've made a mistake but I still want to be responsible .. my dogs have not completed the qualifications to be worthy of breeding and it is completely wrong to bring puppies into the world until then .. so I will go the vet and get the mismate shot and then make D*MN sure not to make this mistake again".
Yep, that's what a responsible human being would have done.
I do hope your bitch does well with whelping and that everything goes fine. I'm sure no one wishes you ill in any way. But what you have done was completely WRONG - you KNOW it too - and if you came here thinking people would say "oooooohh, PUPPIES!!" then you're wrong in that too.
Please, make sure you find the best of homes, have spay/neuter contracts, only offer limited registration so that no offspring of these dogs can be bred, and make money the LEAST of your considerations in selling these pups.
And then get your dogs health-tested, get some titles going, either have your bitch spayed or put her on cheque drops to keep her out of heat, and make an effort to show that you are willing to be RESPONSIBLE.
Melanie and the gang in Alaska
An "oops" simply means "I wasn't paying attention at a time when I should have been" .. and in this particular situation, all the signs point toward this being a deliberate breeding anyway.
You know what frustrates me even more than anything else? Even with all the dogs in shelters and rescues, there's a place for responsible breeders out there. There's a place for breeders who are doing their best to breed quality dogs from breeding stock that is proven to be genetically healthy, conformationally correct, intelligent and excellent examples of the breed. You could have tried to be one of these breeders, but instead you made the choice (and it WAS a choice) to just breed two dogs that happened to have registration papers. THIS is the type of breeder that makes people dislike breeders.
And if this HAD been an "oops" .. a responsible breeder would have said "okay, I've made a mistake but I still want to be responsible .. my dogs have not completed the qualifications to be worthy of breeding and it is completely wrong to bring puppies into the world until then .. so I will go the vet and get the mismate shot and then make D*MN sure not to make this mistake again".
Yep, that's what a responsible human being would have done.
I do hope your bitch does well with whelping and that everything goes fine. I'm sure no one wishes you ill in any way. But what you have done was completely WRONG - you KNOW it too - and if you came here thinking people would say "oooooohh, PUPPIES!!" then you're wrong in that too.
Please, make sure you find the best of homes, have spay/neuter contracts, only offer limited registration so that no offspring of these dogs can be bred, and make money the LEAST of your considerations in selling these pups.
And then get your dogs health-tested, get some titles going, either have your bitch spayed or put her on cheque drops to keep her out of heat, and make an effort to show that you are willing to be RESPONSIBLE.
Melanie and the gang in Alaska
I'm new can someone please define BYB?
Second, this might be an incorrect thought but there are two forms of breeding that I don't get upset at. The first is breeding to better the breed. This is certenly not it. To better the breed n my mind there needs to be some outstanding attribute that you desire to breed into the existing breed. (size, weight, temperment, etc.) I would never attempt this version ever. I don't know enough. Every dog I have ever had has been altered, or was kept a very close watch of during the proper times. ( I don't like fixing dogs when there older there is an aperent mood change (perhaps percived) and they don't seem to be the same as before, but puppies (before sexual maturity) are fine and don't seem effected one bit. (I do agree with shelters no-non-altered dogs can be adopted rule even if it means older dogs get altered, why risk it)
Anyway the second reason that I can like (and here is where the disagreements will come in) Is on farms, or other big wide open spaces, where puppies are desireable even though not for "breeding" purpouses. Theres a very thin line between this in an acceptable form for me, and a non-acceptable form. If you get two non-altered dogs and decide to keep them that way, and decide to let them breed, with the intention of just having more puppies around the farm, then I am O.K. with this (although I think a better option is to go to the pound). If however there is money involved, or it's an accident, any other reason then you want more pups on your farm (can't think of why but I'm still ok with it) then I think it's wrong.
This is not either of thoes cases.
Second, this might be an incorrect thought but there are two forms of breeding that I don't get upset at. The first is breeding to better the breed. This is certenly not it. To better the breed n my mind there needs to be some outstanding attribute that you desire to breed into the existing breed. (size, weight, temperment, etc.) I would never attempt this version ever. I don't know enough. Every dog I have ever had has been altered, or was kept a very close watch of during the proper times. ( I don't like fixing dogs when there older there is an aperent mood change (perhaps percived) and they don't seem to be the same as before, but puppies (before sexual maturity) are fine and don't seem effected one bit. (I do agree with shelters no-non-altered dogs can be adopted rule even if it means older dogs get altered, why risk it)
Anyway the second reason that I can like (and here is where the disagreements will come in) Is on farms, or other big wide open spaces, where puppies are desireable even though not for "breeding" purpouses. Theres a very thin line between this in an acceptable form for me, and a non-acceptable form. If you get two non-altered dogs and decide to keep them that way, and decide to let them breed, with the intention of just having more puppies around the farm, then I am O.K. with this (although I think a better option is to go to the pound). If however there is money involved, or it's an accident, any other reason then you want more pups on your farm (can't think of why but I'm still ok with it) then I think it's wrong.
This is not either of thoes cases.
BYB stands for backyard breeder and refers to breeders who breed irresponsibly--because of greed, ignorance, or other reasons. It covers a wide range. The lady who breeds her dog because "he has papers" or "because she's so sweet, everyone will want her sweet puppies" is a backyard breeder. Someone who breeds "because everyone wants a Breed XYZ right now" or "labradoodles are hot right now" is also a BYB. Hope that helps.
To the OP: Shame on you. Shame on you.
To the OP: Shame on you. Shame on you.
Gah. This is just ridiculous.
Obviously the breeding was planned- and obviously, this person doesn't know the first thing about establishing a respectable breeding program.
For one, it's absolutely ridiculous to assume that you could look at a 5 month old PUPPY and already determine his good points and bad points- determine that he is the BEST match for your particular bitch. That where she falters, he excells, and that he compliments her. Nevermind the fact that you can't test for hip dysplasia or patellar luxation until the animal is two.
And in a breed where these problems RUN RAMPANT.
Siiiigh....
Obviously the breeding was planned- and obviously, this person doesn't know the first thing about establishing a respectable breeding program.
For one, it's absolutely ridiculous to assume that you could look at a 5 month old PUPPY and already determine his good points and bad points- determine that he is the BEST match for your particular bitch. That where she falters, he excells, and that he compliments her. Nevermind the fact that you can't test for hip dysplasia or patellar luxation until the animal is two.
And in a breed where these problems RUN RAMPANT.
Siiiigh....
Yep, Boemy covered it. I've had people argue with me that "the cute elderly couple down the street who are breeding their 2 poodles for fun" are not BYBs. Yes, they are.
A breeder who doesn't show or work their dogs... who doesn't health test... who breeds every heat... who breeds young females... who uses pseudo registries such as APRI... who is breeding their dogs because they are cute... who is breeding to show their children the 'miracle' of life... who is breeding dogs completely out of breed standards... who is breeding mixed breeds... who is breeding for profit... is a backyard breeder.
A breeder who doesn't show or work their dogs... who doesn't health test... who breeds every heat... who breeds young females... who uses pseudo registries such as APRI... who is breeding their dogs because they are cute... who is breeding to show their children the 'miracle' of life... who is breeding dogs completely out of breed standards... who is breeding mixed breeds... who is breeding for profit... is a backyard breeder.
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