Ok is he an Am staff (American Staffordshire Terrier) I was told he wasn't.

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Hello, this my son he needs a home by the way. However, I have asked and people told me he isn't an am staff due to his head is to big or he is to muscular. I thought he was an American Staffordshire Terrier. I know my breed. I have a video of him if needed.





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Could be an Am. Staff, could be an APBT, could be an American bully, could be a pit bull mix of some sort. But yes, definitely some type of bully breed. I would assume a shelter/rescue may call him an Am staff as opposed to pit bull either because people are less scared by that name or because his head is so broad. People often think Am Staffs have bigger heads and a stockier body than APBTs but there is such a huge variety in pit bulls you can't say that for sure.
 

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He looks like an American Bully to me, not an Amstaff.

I'm assuming he's at a shelter? Like Maxy24 said, lots of shelters are starting to call your generic "Bully breed" Amstaffs because the general public aren't as scared away by the name (most people have no clue what an Amstaff is to begin with). If he's a shelter dog that doesn't have papers or a known pedigree, I wouldn't refer to him as an Amstaff.

My boys are Amstaffs (with known pedigrees), just to show you:



 
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No, he isn't in a shelter he is at my job. He was abandon. However, I thought American Bully also but the American Bully's I have seen are more muscular & have a shorter snout/muzzle then he does. I am also asking this due to in a few months to a year I want one just like him. He isn't to muscular not that short of a snout/muzzle he doesn't have the breathing issues like the American Bully.



He also looks like a shelter dog where I use to work at name Ears. His ears are cropped Dallas isn't
Dallas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp4Y_MOPh58
 

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Ears' ears are not cropped. They're just erect.

I would call the original boy an american bully. There are many lines and "types", not just the one you posted.
 

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as a breeder of the american bully and a devotee of the "breed" such as it is, for more than 13 years, it is my "professional" opinion that he might be an american bully, but i highly doubt it, and if he is, hes a godsrotted shoddy example of the breed, with no type whatsoever.

"American Bully" is not the dumping ground for every mutt or thing that doesnt fit anywhere else. its a breed, in an of itself. its not an "other", its not a "misc".
 

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I'm sure he'd fit into one of the thousand classes just fine. Not like American Bully breeders are known for being terribly responsible. :rolleyes:
 

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So many people breed their pit bulls willy nilly without following any sort of breed standard that they don't always look too similar, people call super stocky giant headed dogs APBTs and much leggier, pointier dogs APBTs. I doubt he came from some American Bully or APBT breeder who is following a standard. They just have some dogs and breed them because they like dogs or they like money, they don't care if they look "right". So the dogs don't perfectly match one breed or another.

If he were mine I'd call him a pit bull or pit bull mix. If you'd like to find another dog like him in the future I'm sure you'll have no trouble at a shelter or rescue.
 
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I would confidently say that Dallas looks like he is an American Bulldog, if I were to take a guess.

Without papers, it's impossible to say for certain. Call him an American Bulldog mix. lol.
 

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No, he isn't in a shelter he is at my job. He was abandon. However, I thought American Bully also but the American Bully's I have seen are more muscular & have a shorter snout/muzzle then he does. I am also asking this due to in a few months to a year I want one just like him. He isn't to muscular not that short of a snout/muzzle he doesn't have the breathing issues like the American Bully.

He also looks like a shelter dog where I use to work at name Ears. His ears are cropped Dallas isn't
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Ears does not have cropped ears. He has full prick ears. The dogs I posted in my first post here (my own dogs) have cropped ears.

There are 5 different varieties of the American Bully, per ABKC: http://theabkcdogs.org/home/breeds/american-bully/standard/

UKC is also now recognizing them as a breed: http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/Breeds/CompanionDog/AmericanBully

Am Bullies don't have to be the short, squatty dogs that can't breathe. There are many examples of the breed that are very nice dogs. It just so happens that many people could care less about the health of them.

I'm sure he'd fit into one of the thousand classes just fine. Not like American Bully breeders are known for being terribly responsible. :rolleyes:
So many people breed their pit bulls willy nilly without following any sort of breed standard that they don't always look too similar, people call super stocky giant headed dogs APBTs and much leggier, pointier dogs APBTs. I doubt he came from some American Bully or APBT breeder who is following a standard. They just have some dogs and breed them because they like dogs or they like money, they don't care if they look "right". So the dogs don't perfectly match one breed or another.

If he were mine I'd call him a pit bull or pit bull mix. If you'd like to find another dog like him in the future I'm sure you'll have no trouble at a shelter or rescue.
Agree with both of these. Ethical Am Bully breeders are a dime a dozen (if that, I can name 2 off the top of my head that I *might* recommend vs. the numerous Amstaff breeders I would), so he could've just been bred by whoever that didn't care about him meeting any type of breed standard.

Dogs that look like him are all over local shelters in my local area, I've photographed a bazillion of them. So in the future, if you like his look, you really shouldn't have a hard time finding one similar to him.
 
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Yeah it's a confusing breed name.

American Bulldog is like Chance from Homeward Bound.
I've never seen that... but it makes sense that *that* isn't an american bulldog, because Dozer is an american bulldog x boxer mix and I was picturing am bully + boxer. American bulldog makes WAY more sense... LOL (for Dozer..)
 

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