new to the forum not new to breeding

[Dekka]

ok fine.... but I still think its risky. That one pic (where are photo albums here) I see in your profile doesnt' look too much APBT. But while that is a lovely looking dog it looks very heavy to be doing herding work. Hold sure, hunting bear sure... but herding.. just doesnt' look like it would be able to stay at it all day long. Same reason don't use draft horses to work stock. No herding breed is that heavy.

Once again, why no herding breeds to get herding drive. Or why not go fila's since they can likely do everything your breed is trying to do. And they look more (based on that one pic) more athletic when it comes to working stock. What is the working life span of one of your dogs?

 

[poacher]

Hi Dekka I'm having issues downloading pics here on this thread. My dogs are not herding dogs they are working dogs of old type. They push cattle from pasture to pasture and chase strays. My dogs are big game hunting dogs, guardians, and companions. They are a type of corsing mastiff with great stamina. My males weigh in at 120ibs females 20ibs less they are 24-26 inches at the withers. They look like the dogs of old more like alaunts from the 16th 17th century. The life span of my dogs are expected to reach 12-14 years working age is undetermined since I've only been developing this breed since 1999, but on another note all my dogs get tested at 6months of age and then again at 18 months for any genetic defects and none has showed as of yet. Everyone has to get herding off their minds lol I designed this dog for me and still have along way to go another 14-18 years of breeding true to lock in desired traits. A versitle breed that in my opinion fits the bill of a great working dog of old.

 

[-bogart-]

can I see them , you can private message me if you want . I am highly intrested in this , as i have thought for awhile that mastiff's need some working abillity to go with the awesomeness.

the guy in you picture reminds me of a big cat in ways.

 

[Xandra]

Good looking dog. If make an account on Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket you can upload your pics there. Once the pics are uploaded, you put your mouse over the image you want to post and copy the code... paste that in your post and voila. That's how most of us do it.

As to your dogs:

Where did you get your corsos from?

What kind of breed of bulldog are you using?

Why did you breed shar pei in?

Of the breeds you used, the corso is the most suited to your requirements, being (historically) a drover, catchdog and guardian. What did you feel the corso lacked, and how do the other breeds you used improve it?

Which genetic tests did you do?

 

[poacher]

Hi Xandra well I test my dogs for TVD and VKH and PENN-HIP test them as well. The Shar pei was used to improve the hunting ability and sentry as well and the bulldog i used was a working type bulldog, old plantation style. Very high working drive the corso's i used were of the Roman Cane Corso blood lines DiGardia. historically you are correct the corso's were just that but i just wanted to improve on it, add some hunting ability, and more drive. While the bulldog added stability, mental awareness. hope this answers some of your questions.

 

[poacher]

 

[poacher]

 

[Linds]

Poacher, on your photobucket next to each picture is a spot that says "Share this photo" and in that spot one of the links it gives you is for IMG code. Copy and paste that code and the picture should show up

 

[Danefied]

Images aren't copied right:

 

[Danefied]

Can you answer my question about how they guard the herd when they have to be in heated kennels?
Also, why are some docked and others not, some cropped short, others not?

Do you have some sort of standard written down, a specific goal to achieve?

 

[eddieq]

Ok, I fixed the IMG tags in the posts above. I return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

 

[poacher]

yes i do have a standard most of my dogs are looking the same other then color my dogs are not public yet ear cropping well dr staples does all my dogs in london ontario the best i think that there is out there. Only 3 of my bitches don't have there ears done i wanted to see what the ears would fall out like. Yes my dogs patrol and scent mark that keeps wolves away in turn I'm not going to have 80 dogs running around. Thats why they are in a heated kennels and if I didn't have a heated kennels someone would be bashing me that I'm cruel keeping my dogs in -30-40 below weather stop focusing on the negatives and look at the dogs themselves. They speak for themself

 

[Danefied]

look at the dogs themselves. They speak for themself

I'd rather judge them by watching them work

I have a mutt who is gorgeous. Looks aren't everything.

 

[poacher]

Yes I do agree with you watching them work is a sight to see. The way they move and the stances they take when something comes head on with them. Their bravado and still the softness they have around people. keep an eye out for videos in may on my dogs working cattle and moving bulls.

 

[Saeleofu]

One of those dogs looks distinctly shar pei - one with uncropped ears. There's one that looks VERY much "pitbull" to me and I'd definitely be fearing for that dog with a breed ban in place. Heck around here even my boxer gets called a "pitbull" all the time.

 

[poacher]

Like I said before I still have about another 14-16 years left before I can truely say I've locked in all the traits. As I said before apbt's haven't been in my breeding since 1999 so just food for thought if mine get banned so will all the olde english bulldogges. I will spend every dollar I have in fighting my case. Thank god my family are all lawyers lmao.

 

[corgipower]

Yes I do agree with you watching them work is a sight to see. The way they move and the stances they take when something comes head on with them. Their bravado and still the softness they have around people. keep an eye out for videos in may on my dogs working cattle and moving bulls.

I wouldn't want bravado when moving bulls.

Bravado - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Definition of BRAVADO
1
a : blustering swaggering conduct b : a pretense of bravery
2
: the quality or state of being foolhardy

 

[-bogart-]

not everyone uses the correct word when describing things. i know i dont.

i think he meant courage. or even there carriage. or demeanor.

~put theasarus and dictionary on order for when i post here~

 

[poacher]

Thanks Bogart lol I guess I have to be a member of peta to belong here everyone is in the bashing mode lmao I guess bravado meaning their stance when confronted head on.

 

[poacher]

Bogart this is one of the biggest threads look at how many people viewed this in one day 570ish lmao I guess I got peoples attentions lmao even though some just wanna bash me lmao. Well tomorrow I'm off of here so anymore questions just throw them at me. This was a little marketing experiment to see how many people would want my dogs and how much interest I get. Cheers