New 2007 California Law

[Bobsk8]

If you tie a dog to a teather in California for more than 3 hours you can get up to 6 months in jail. I think it is great that people finally realize how cruel it is to tie a dog up to a stake for hours, days, or it's entire life. I wonder how the owner will feel caged up in the jail cell for 6 months....

 

[Gig 'Em Ags]

Bravo for such a law!!! One of the rare occassions I'll agree with California politics!!!

 

[bubbatd]

New law here ....no tie outs between 11 PM and 6 AM. Also no one can own 2 dangerous dogs...these are dogs who have attacked someone without being provoked.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

That's great!

 

[shazbot]

Can't tie dogs out at all here in minneapolis.

 

[dr2little]

LOVE IT....BOUT TIME!!!:hail: :hail:

 

[Kase]

Thats great . I just hope it gets enforced!

 

[bubbatd]

Forgot to mention ....the tie outs have to be at least 12' long with a swivel at each end !

 

[Whisper]

YES! :hail:
Here there is a law against tying your dog out but since it's pretty rural out here it really isn't enforced. . .

 

[Bobsk8]

This kind of fits in with the new law


http://dogsdeservebetter.com/home.html

 

[pancho]

What would be the difference in tying out a dog and crating a dog for the same amount of time?

 

[dr2little]

What would be the difference in tying out a dog and crating a dog for the same amount of time?

I don't think anyone is condoning crating for extended periods either. It's not about which is worse....more about the fact that tie outs are a lousy and unsafe way for a dog to live.

 

[pancho]

I don't think anyone is condoning crating for extended periods either. It's not about which is worse....more about the fact that tie outs are a lousy and unsafe way for a dog to live.

I will agree completely, I would not do either, but I continue to see a lot of post about crating a dog while the owners are gone. It would seem chaining a dog would be preferred to crating. The dog would have more freedom, more exercise, and fresh air.

 

[dr2little]

I will agree completely, I would not do either, but I continue to see a lot of post about crating a dog while the owners are gone. It would seem chaining a dog would be preferred to crating. The dog would have more freedom, more exercise, and fresh air.

I crate my 4 smaller dogs for short periods and teach owners how to crate train, but don't recommend crating for more than a few hours.

I help owners to set up safe environments as an alternative to crating for longer periods for dogs that can not be left loose during an absence but have always been dead against tie outs due to safety and neglect issues that often accompany them.

 

[RD]

My problem with chaining vs. crating is the fact that when chained, a dog is almost always vulnerable to attacks from other animals and from some cruel humans as well. I know very few people who tie their dog out in a securely fenced yard . . . They tie them out in the open or in a yard that the dog can escape from. If the dog can get out, other creatures can get in.

Crating is usually done indoors and, even if a dog is crated or kenneled outdoors, it has some protection.

 

[Bobsk8]

What would be the difference in tying out a dog and crating a dog for the same amount of time?

I just don't like crates either. I think it is just as bad as chaining them outside, if not worse.

 

[pancho]

I crate my 4 smaller dogs for short periods and teach owners how to crate train, but don't recommend crating for more than a few hours.

I help owners to set up safe environments as an alternative to crating for longer periods for dogs that can not be left loose during an absence but have always been dead against tie outs due to safety and neglect issues that often accompany them.

For very short amount of time either one would be better than leaving the dog to run loose but I can't see the advantage of one over the other.
When a dog is out on a chain it is easier for others to see the dog and check if the dog is neglected and safe. If the dog is inside of a house and crated they are out of site. No one would know if they are neglected or had safety issues.

 

[shazbot]

Chances are in a crate there aren't going to be safety issues. The dog is safe inside the house. Outside on a chain not only can other animals or cruel people can get to it, the dog can also strangle itself on a chain. IMO a crate is much safer than being on a chain.

 

[bubbatd]

The reason for the new laws here are due to the pit bull mauling last spring of a 2 year old girl . They didn't want to ban them and feel that this will make owners more aware of socializing their dogs thus making them less aggressive. Example : a 6 week old pitty was on a 4' HEAVY towing chain ....with food and water only . This was next door and when I'd see the owner leave , I'd go over and socialize her. Luckily she's no longer there !! Made me sick !!

 

[pancho]

Chances are in a crate there aren't going to be safety issues. The dog is safe inside the house. Outside on a chain not only can other animals or cruel people can get to it, the dog can also strangle itself on a chain. IMO a crate is much safer than being on a chain.

I can see the safety issue of a crate compared to a chain. Neglect would be very hard to see in a crate inside of a house. On a chain it is out in the open for all to observe. There are probably just as many dogs neglected in a crate as there is those on a chain. I t just isn't as visible. I do know I have read on this forum about owners that crate their dog all day long when they are at work.