I think I'm going to find a new home for Boris... or put him down
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"KILL THE BEAST"
thats the impression I got when reading this..
I just really think with twins Fran can not and should not have to put up with this right now. The dog is probly feeding off alot of the stress from the family..
If Milo could take the dog that would be awsome..
I dont think putting him down would be the right answer.
Yes I see what many of yall are saying by you dont want to feel reliable for a bite but I think you could find a right home even if its not in the city right next door..
thats the impression I got when reading this..
I just really think with twins Fran can not and should not have to put up with this right now. The dog is probly feeding off alot of the stress from the family..
If Milo could take the dog that would be awsome..
I dont think putting him down would be the right answer.
Yes I see what many of yall are saying by you dont want to feel reliable for a bite but I think you could find a right home even if its not in the city right next door..
Exactly. ANY dog can have aggression issues. And aggression in that form is unacceptable in ANY breed, and it's no more "genetically" caused in one breed then in another. The reason that you see aggression issues in the more dominant breeds is because a) they are owned by people who have no idea how to handle them and/or b) they are owned by people who want a badass dog.
And to restate what Milo said...they were all well-bred, well-cared for dogs with excellent owners who knew what they were doing.
No breed is genetically predisposed to aggression, resource guarding, etc. more so then any other breed. Yes, there are lines that carry more of a "bad bone" persay, but you get that in EVERY breed.
Then agressive Golds must not exist! I've never seen an aggressive Sheltie...they must not be able to be agressive either!
And to restate what Milo said...they were all well-bred, well-cared for dogs with excellent owners who knew what they were doing.
No breed is genetically predisposed to aggression, resource guarding, etc. more so then any other breed. Yes, there are lines that carry more of a "bad bone" persay, but you get that in EVERY breed.
Then agressive Golds must not exist! I've never seen an aggressive Sheltie...they must not be able to be agressive either!
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The fact that this aggressive dog is in the same house as two little babies makes me very nervous. I am quite worried about the situation. I will admit, I am leaning towards PTS. You've got to choose between your two infant kids or your pet. Taking care of twins AND trying to train this aggressive dog when your afraid of him, just doesn't sound like its going to work. I dont want do be a downer here, I'm trying to be realistic. Caring for twins is A LOT of work and it takes a lot of time and effort, and then you have an aggressive dog you have to train. Its just too much. Go with your gut, Fran. You know the situation better than anyone.
If you go with the traning rout. That dog has to be muzzled at all times. Dont take any chances, because it sounds like that dog WILL bite if he sees fit. And then you need to keep him crated even if he does throw a fit. He is pushing you around because he can! He knows you are afraid of him.
Rehoming is irresponsible in my mind. For the reasons that Red has already stated.
Sad sad situation, but something has to be done NOW.
If you go with the traning rout. That dog has to be muzzled at all times. Dont take any chances, because it sounds like that dog WILL bite if he sees fit. And then you need to keep him crated even if he does throw a fit. He is pushing you around because he can! He knows you are afraid of him.
Rehoming is irresponsible in my mind. For the reasons that Red has already stated.
Sad sad situation, but something has to be done NOW.
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I don't think Fran is going to attempt to train on her own. She's tried her best but her and her husband are a poor fit for Boris and now with twin infants there's no way it would work.
I would say PTS if she absolutely couldn't find a home that knew what they were getting into and were willing to take on the challenge...but I think if she can find a home for Boris, be it with me or someone else who knows dogs and is capeable of spending the time he needs, he deserves a chance in a different enviroment.
I would say PTS if she absolutely couldn't find a home that knew what they were getting into and were willing to take on the challenge...but I think if she can find a home for Boris, be it with me or someone else who knows dogs and is capeable of spending the time he needs, he deserves a chance in a different enviroment.
Fran, I know you don't really know me, but I sympathize with you immensely. It wasn't exactly that same situation, but I had a human/child aggressive dog, and he bit, several times, and several people. If I knew then what I know now, I feel like I could have helped him, but at the time, our only option was to have him PTS.
Sorry I've been really busy with guests here.
I honestly don't know about the leadership stuff.... he'll listen to us when we ask him 'leave it'. He'll wait to get his treats... he'll sit when he wants something... we've been doing that from the start.
I know the resource guarding thing started when he ended up destroying his plush toys and we took them away from him. He doesn't guard bones or the wood sticks he brings from outside etc... only the cloth stuff. He loves shoes too, but it's not a big deal to get them back. He'll drop them if we ask. We can be around him with cloth items, if one drops and he tries to grab it, we can get it back right away. If we ask him to leave it, he will. Sometimes someone forgets to put something away or to close a door and it's when he steals stuff really.
I usually just ignore him when he steals something, and I'm definitely not afraid of him, apart from that day because I was really exhausted, and I'm more scared about what could happen to the kids than anything else really... My husband is never afraid of him either. Boris just picks up very well when we're in a bad mood (which of course happens quite a bit more when you're sleep deprived). For example, the only time he bit my husband (and it wasn't that deep) is a day when he was in a really bad mood and yelled at him for stealing a tissue, then tried to get the tissue from his mouth. He totally deserved it...
Honestly if we're in normal moods he will be nervous if we get close to him when he stole something, but he usually won't growl.
I know I make it look like it's my husband's fault again, it just really doesn't make things easy... but again, he's not a moody freak or anything, he just gets easy to irritate when he's tired.
I honestly don't know about the leadership stuff.... he'll listen to us when we ask him 'leave it'. He'll wait to get his treats... he'll sit when he wants something... we've been doing that from the start.
I know the resource guarding thing started when he ended up destroying his plush toys and we took them away from him. He doesn't guard bones or the wood sticks he brings from outside etc... only the cloth stuff. He loves shoes too, but it's not a big deal to get them back. He'll drop them if we ask. We can be around him with cloth items, if one drops and he tries to grab it, we can get it back right away. If we ask him to leave it, he will. Sometimes someone forgets to put something away or to close a door and it's when he steals stuff really.
I usually just ignore him when he steals something, and I'm definitely not afraid of him, apart from that day because I was really exhausted, and I'm more scared about what could happen to the kids than anything else really... My husband is never afraid of him either. Boris just picks up very well when we're in a bad mood (which of course happens quite a bit more when you're sleep deprived). For example, the only time he bit my husband (and it wasn't that deep) is a day when he was in a really bad mood and yelled at him for stealing a tissue, then tried to get the tissue from his mouth. He totally deserved it...
Honestly if we're in normal moods he will be nervous if we get close to him when he stole something, but he usually won't growl.
I know I make it look like it's my husband's fault again, it just really doesn't make things easy... but again, he's not a moody freak or anything, he just gets easy to irritate when he's tired.