Here They Are! Two Pumi Puppies Have Arrived!

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First, let me thank all of you for your wonderful help and support for the past few months. You've been very kind in your advice, warnings, and expertise.

I was deeply attached to my last dog, Tristan, who I lost to lymphoma at age 4. Though he was with me only a short time, he helped me through the most difficult period of my life. It's not uncommon that I think of him and thank him for enduring my faults, forgiving my stupidity, and the boundless grace he gave to me when I had no one to turn to.

Deciding to get another dog wasn't easy though I started my search last year and decided I would like two dogs. They would be at least a year apart in age and one of them would be an LGD. The other would be... something else.

In my search for a companion to the LGD I decided upon, a komondor, I looked at what other owners of the LGD breed had. Universally, they had pulik. Puli are fantastic herding and agility dogs. I live on the family farm and we have 400 acres and 80 head of Holstein. Any medium-sized dog or larger would do well. My biggest concern was the coat. Could I deal with two corded-coat breeds? I work from home but even then it's a lot of work.

I came across another breed, related to the puli, that didn't have a corded coat and lo and behold, there was a breeder near me. She had pumik. I had seen them in a dog encyclopedia, but didn't know much about them other than they're a combination of the puli and a now-extinct German terrier breed. Pumik have been around since the 1600s and yes, they breed true to form. They're also great herding dogs but in their native Hungary the puli is the farm dog while the pumi has become the city dog. Like their cousin the puli, the pumi is still an excellent herder and agility dog and yes, in Hungary it's not unusual to see a komondor working with a few pumi.

I had found my dog! The problem was finding one. I worked with the American breed club and everyone there is fantastic. One breeder was planning a littler later this summer, but there weren't any around just now. That's ok, I could wait.

There was, however, another breeder here in the US who is getting out of the breed and focusing on another entirely. Due to family issues, his wife was taking the bitch and he wanted to find homes for the sire and the three pups. He needed to find homes for them now. I spoke to the breed club about it and I discovered that there was some competition for the males. Because the coloration doesn't conform to breed, this line shouldn't be bred, but they would make good pets. The one bitch in the litter was given to a friend as a pet and the sire went to another woman who breeds dogs. That left the two males. Now the breeder was looking for homes for these dogs and made a post on a forum stating they were available. That post was immediately responded to by a someone who, the breed club suspects, runs a mill. It was get these two now or risk one or both of them ending-up someplace unpleasant. I made an immediate offer, which was accepted, and this afternoon I became the owner of two 8-week old pumi pups. Millers would love to get pumik into their stock. They don't shed, they're fairly small. An adult dog would be 17" at the withers and 23-28lbs, bitches are a tad smaller.

The breed club estimates there are fewer than 100 pumi in the US. As such, the AKC has them in, "foundation stock," status. These boys will bring to five the number of pumi in New York. I have no intention of breeding them and plan to get them neutered as soon as possible depending upon the recommendation of my vet.

Yes, two dogs are difficult, two litter mates even more of a challenge but I didn't relish the prospect of them ending-up someplace other than as pets in a good home so I took the plunge. Tonight they're in the same crate but tomorrow I'm going to start separating per the recommendations of the forum members.

I have no names for them yet as I'm still trying to get a handle on their personalities, but I do have a few ideas. In the mean time here's a picture of my boys and a link to a page where you can see what they look like as adults.

Again my thanks to everyone here. Knowing I have the support of soo many is a great comfort to me and I hope to reciprocate in kind when I am able.



Gallery from the Hungarian Pumi Club of America.
 
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Oh, and here I was thinking that you were getting Pulik! I was kinda close.

Beautiful pups, Jason! I'm glad you took them in. Looking forward to hearing more about them.
 

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Jason, congratulations. They are truely beautiful and I am confident you are up to the challenge. Keep the pix and updates coming.
 

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What adorable pups! I've never seen that breed before. Thanks for posting the link.
 

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What a neat looking breed! My childhood friend's mother was from Hungary--she had a Puli growing up--nice breed. I can't wait to hear more about them--I am fascinated by the different breeds out there. Where in NY are you--I'm an upstater!
 

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OMG- I remember always getting a kick out of Pumik ears when lookng through breed books- and now we get photos of them!

How exciting, they're absolutely beautiful puppies!
 
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I've never met one, only seen them in pictures and have always LOVED the unique ears. A gal who brought her Puli to my Canine Einstein class showed us all pictures of her sisters Pumik (adult male)...so darn adorable!

Congratulations on your new pups!!:)
 

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Totally adorable little ones!! I think they will look just as lovely grown as the babies do!

Pumi huh? I think this is a first for me :) Is there a lot of grooming with them?
 

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Congrats! They are cute little ones aren't they? I will be looking forward to seeing more pics, hint hint!
 

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So far they've been good. I've been religiously taking them out after eating, after playing, after napping, and every two hours still. I bought a pen for them and placed the crate in it. I have to order another pen to allow for 2 crates. Right now I'm actually happy they're sleeping together as it's quite cold and we can't stay out more than 10 minutes before they start shivering though they like the snow. They seem to have gotten used to the crate already.

I've come up with names. I don't know where the names came from. The little one is Tweeter. He's rather nervous and definitely the beta of the two. The bigger one is, I think, Boomer. I'm not sure yet. It just seems to fit him as well. He's very pushy and more self-assured. Today we went to PetSmart to get a few things and Tweeter just hated the ride. While yesterday he was ok in the car, today he threw-up and then crawled over the rear cover and into the back seat trying to get to me. He sounded so pathetic I felt like poop. Boomer didn't mind a bit. He just sat in the dog nest and enjoyed the ride. I don't know what I'm going to do about tomorrow for the ride to the vet. I may just postpone it as the breeder needs to send me the health records and without the vaccination schedule my vet can't do a thing; at least their poop is frozen :) .

I'll try to take more pics tonight but given their busy day in the car I don't want to stress them at all. Tonight we'll take it easy.

Thanks to all again. It's very reassuring :)

P.S.- Should I try for 2.5 or 3 hours given their age? They were born 12/12, making them 9 weeks in 2 days.
 

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They're very cute! You may already know this, but make sure that the puppies spend time separately (crated separately at night), separate training, spending time with you etc. Otherwise there's almost a 100% chance that they'll be overbonded to each other and have "littermate syndrome" where they're basically two halves of one dog. They become entirely dependent on each other and it's not a good thing.

http://www.caninedevelopment.com/Sibling.htm

http://www.doglistener.co.uk/choosing/siblings.shtml
 

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