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Sweet :)

I want to be a breeder of Great Wawas. They are only the BESTEST breed in the world.

So anyone have a Great Dane stud for me? I'll provide the Chihuahuas.
 

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Hey, Jessie, how about Rhowawa Chibacks???

My dad recently acquired a purebred female...and all female dogs should have at least one litter!

-Rosefern
 

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some are VERY high in the rear.. dont have nice rears.. the heads are off..

I also saw a few "Fair" hip readings from the OFA.. either they weren't positioned properly during the radiographs OR.. they just shouldn't be bred.

I do have to congradulate you on actually doing PROPER testing..

make sure you re-test your dogs that only have a pre-lim certificate though.
I also noticed that you are breeding dogs with "Fair" hip readings. That means that these dogs are making no structural improvements to the breed. Ethical breeders would hesitate to breed a dog with fair hips and wouldn't do so unless the dog excelled (and I mean top of the line) in another aspect.

As someone that bought a "Schnoodle" from a puppy mill, I was glad to see that you were doing testing. However, it seems like you are only doing to the testing so you can say that you did it.

The purpose of the testing should be to screen whether you the dog is worthy of breeding or not. Do you think "fair" hips are worth passing down to future generations?
 
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Hello Goldendoodler
I have a Goldendoodle (stupid name I know) and am thrilled to have such a wonderful girl. There seems to be a large number of members on this forum who are very opposed to the mixing of these two breeds. I have no problem admitting I just don't have what it takes to adopt a dog from the pound/rescue. Kudos to those who do. This is probably the last dog I'll have and I got exactly what I wanted. The reason there are so many dogs in pounds is irresponsible people - whether it's purebred or cross breeds/mixes.
 

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Welcome! =)

The fact is, most people don't want to adopt a dog from the shelter, they want a papered, dog from a retuable breeder.
You might be pleasantly surprised, then, that MANY if not most of the dogs on Chaz are from rescues & shelters. Both of mine are... one of them (Fozzie) being an adorable muttly. Also, how and where do you get "papers"?

I am not going to repeat what has already been said; I'm just kind of astounded by the number of dogs you own! Sheesh, how do you keep up with 20+ dogs and PUPPIES? I get over-whelmed at times with my 2 little punks.
 
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Why do you breed mixes instead of breeding a pure breed? What is it that goldenmixes and others can offer that the existing breeds can not?
Well, as you said, health and also allergy relief.(No, Im not saying they have NO allergens, Just less, so if you are allergic its bearable.)

Sheesh, how do you keep up with 20+ dogs and PUPPIES?
I don't own all the dogs, But i see them so often they may as well be my own!

However, it seems like you are only doing to the testing so you can say that you did it.
No, I test to see whether or not my dogs are healthy enough to breed, like any other person would.

Sweet

I want to be a breeder of Great Wawas. They are only the BESTEST breed in the world.

So anyone have a Great Dane stud for me? I'll provide the Chihuahuas.
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Well Jesse, if no Danes step forward would you consider going for the Saint Wawa?

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I have a stud you can borrow for cock-a-was.. that work for you?

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Hey, Jessie, how about Rhowawa Chibacks???

My dad recently acquired a purebred female...and all female dogs should have at least one litter!

-Rosefern
Again, the members of This forum have shown how mature and adult they are... :rolleyes:
 

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I just don't have what it takes to adopt a dog from the pound/rescue.
What does that mean? Are you saying you don't have the heart to take in an incredible dog that needs a loving home? If you can't even consider saving the life of a dog in need, you aren't fit to own a dog at all.

We got Herschel (you would call him a Schnoodle) when he was 8 weeks old from a puppy mill. We got Nala when she was 4 months old from the Midwest Border Collie Rescue. Both dogs require training (Herschel definitely required more) and both of them are the best dogs I could ever ask for. No one even knows that Nala is from a rescue when people meet her...
 
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Goodbye Chazhound flamers.I joined to get and give advice, heck even make a friend.How wrong was I?
I guess you people are so far up your own backsides that you can't come off your high horse to even say hello, huh?
I know some of you were only asking questions, and a few were even nice(What a surprise!) But the rest of you just can't get passed the fact of which dogs I own, which saddens me.I see you are anti-BSL Yet you attack a new person because they own a breed you do not agree with.
In the end of ends, I was only saying Hi and if you didn't want to say hi back you didn't have to post.But no, the all-knowing chazzers have to stick thier noses in.
I may come on time to time, but I doubt it with the company that is here.
Goodbye,
Goldendoodler.
 

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Well, as you said, health and also allergy relief.(No, Im not saying they have NO allergens, Just less, so if you are allergic its bearable.)
Completely missed my point. I was simply asking what does this mix offer that we don't already have in the existing dog breeds. Can they contribute something to dogs that we don't already have? We already have breeds that are great for those with allergies, and for the health issue- there are many breeeds that are not over run with health issues, especailly when they come from responsible, ethical breeders.

Again, the members of This forum have shown how mature and adult they are...
Absolutley nothing to do with maturity, all to do with the unnecessary creating of 'designer breeds' and trying to find a little humor in such a heated thread. Sorry that you failed to find amusement. I know I fail to find amusement in the breeding of dogs for the sole purpose of creating more instead of bettering the breed.

It's just something that I don't get. Why people can't understand that breeding mixed breeds does not add up to being a responsible and ethical breeder.
 
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You don't own a breed.
I own a mixed-breed, still a breed.Comes from the one who bought a schnoodle from a puppy mill without even checking the breeder.I don't think you have the right to critisize anyone's dogs.

You never answered an easy question (why do you breed fair hips).
Is this any of your buisness?
But i'll tell you anyway, its beacuse its very hard to find a good/excellent hipped dog, and my demand is high, Fair is better than poor isn't it?

Why people can't understand that breeding mixed breeds does not add up to being a responsible and ethical breeder.
Did Anyone ever say that? Stop coming to your own conclusions.
 

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I own a mixed-breed, still a breed.Comes from the one who bought a schnoodle from a puppy mill without even checking the breeder.I don't think you have the right to critisize anyone's dogs.
I was sucked into a cute, non-shedding, intelligent dog by one of your unethical breeder friends. I don't regret making the purchase but I don't agree with the mass production of designer mixes for the profit of the breeder.

You own a mix of two breeds. Not a breed.

Is this any of your buisness?
But i'll tell you anyway, its beacuse its very hard to find a good/excellent hipped dog, and my demand is high, Fair is better than poor isn't it?
Sure, maybe I'm a potential customer. It's common practice for ethical breeders to be questioned about their dogs.

Just because it's "hard" to find an excellent hipped dog doesn't mean you should settle for fair. Doing so is a hallmark of a back yard breeder. Did you ever think that the reason you can't find a dog with excellent hips is because too many people (like yourself) are breeding dogs with fair hips?

And your demand is high? Right. Dogs should be bred based on supply and demand. So much for ethics.
 

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I haven't waded in, but I think I shall.

To start.. I have no problems with people crossing dogs to create new breeds. If done ethically, and there are loving homes its no diff than breeding an old breed. There is no reason all the breeds we have today, are all the breeds we are ever allowed to have.

BUT when breeding a new breed...
1. Don't call it a puppymillesq type name. (ie goldendoodle) give it a new name (ie silken windhounds..if you don't know that one-google it)
2. Strive to have a consistent type. Stop selling F1 generations. The goal of anybreed is to produce a 'type' of dog. When you get to F20-F30 then we can start talking breed.
3. Don't breed any dog with less than stellar attributes that relate to health or temperment.
4. Have a good health guarantee-honour it.
5.Be responsible for the pups for their life, make sure they get fixed, and make sure they never end up in a shelter.
6. Prove your dogs in some way. Get some obedience titles, agility, rally-0, tracking, something. Prove the offspring.
7. If you are really into your new 'breed' start a club, so other breeders can help develop, prove, and support. Make all breeders sign a code of ethics. IF there is a club, join it.
8. Help with goldendoodle rescue. If there isn't one yet..start one. If you can place dogs needing homes, you won't need to breed as much.
9. With so many 'goldendoodles' in shelters make sure you have a long waiting list before you breed.

Just so you know I practice what I preach...
I breed a breed that is not considered a 'pure bred' but a type. I breed Jack Russells. I haven't had a litter in about 2 years, and am looking at breeding next year. My dogs are all titled in various sports. I will not breed anything that does not further my 'plan' for my breeding program. The last 2 girls I bought from a good breeder, one of them, their sire has one the most prestidgious conformation award a JRT can win. But I am fixing both of them. I love them, and will keep them. But they just aren't right for breeding. They will race, do obed, agility and goodness knows what else, but with so many JRTs looking for homes, I don't need to breed them.
 

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Why people can't understand that breeding mixed breeds does not add up to being a responsible and ethical breeder. - what I said

Did Anyone ever say that? Stop coming to your own conclusions.- what Goldendoodler said
Yes, I said that. I said that breeding mixes does not add up to being a responsible and ethical breeder. Not a conclusion- it is what I said and what I believe.

But i'll tell you anyway, its beacuse its very hard to find a good/excellent hipped dog, and my demand is high, Fair is better than poor isn't it?
NO!!!! NO!!!!NO!!!! Mediocre is not good breeding material!

(Stopping to bang my head on a wall before making my exit.......)
 

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Maye you can't find excellent or good hipped dogs, because people with good breeding stock won't sell to someone creating mutts.
 
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Sure, maybe I'm a potential customer. It's common practice for ethical breeders to be questioned about their dogs.
After Insulting me and being rude for the last 3 pages, I highly Doubt you are interested in a dog, nor would you be getting one.
I know its common pratice, and beleive me iv'e been asked soo many times, thats why it gets annoying when people Ask you with an attitude.

Maye you can't find excellent or good hipped dogs, because people with good breeding stock won't sell to someone creating mutts.
I know your probably don't agree with my ethics, but is there a need to be so rude?
Learn some manners.

I was sucked into a cute, non-shedding, intelligent dog by one of your unethical breeder friends
Excuse me, but how dare you put me into the same catergory as the idiots you bought a puppy off without even asking any questions.If you lose your sence when someone shows you a puppy, thats not my fault.

NO!!!! NO!!!!NO!!!! Mediocre is not good breeding material!
:lol-sign: Something your parents obviously didn't consider.

There is no reason all the breeds we have today, are all the breeds we are ever allowed to have
Thank you, at last an open minded person.

2. Strive to have a consistent type. Stop selling F1 generations. The goal of anybreed is to produce a 'type' of dog. When you get to F20-F30 then we can start talking breed.
3. Don't breed any dog with less than stellar attributes that relate to health or temperment.
4. Have a good health guarantee-honour it.
5.Be responsible for the pups for their life, make sure they get fixed, and make sure they never end up in a shelter.
6. Prove your dogs in some way. Get some obedience titles, agility, rally-0, tracking, something. Prove the offspring.
7. If you are really into your new 'breed' start a club, so other breeders can help develop, prove, and support. Make all breeders sign a code of ethics. IF there is a club, join it.
8. Help with goldendoodle rescue. If there isn't one yet..start one. If you can place dogs needing homes, you won't need to breed as much.
9. With so many 'goldendoodles' in shelters make sure you have a long waiting list before you breed.
I aim to get to at least F-25 before starting a campain on making them pure-bred.But in the mean time, to get there I must breed dogs, and the usual litter size for a standard is 5 pups.I Must sell these dogs to free up space and also to pursuade someone that actually a dog doesn't have to be either a purebred or a shelter dog.
I also do have a 1-3 year health garentee, permitted the owner did not deliberatly harm the dog.However I will always take a dog back and re-home it.
Nearly all my pups are on a spay/neuter contract, and if broken, the dog will be seized from them.
I have showed my dogs and they have titles.
I am in the Goldendoodle breeders program, where we are trying to get the breed recognised.
I used to work in the shelter, but due to bankruptcy they shut down.
 

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First .... welcome to Chaz . I too was wondering why the site is in Ontario and you in Michigan . Third , I have a Golden mix too ! Love him !!! Rescued him for $125 .
 

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