I just find it reprehensible that one man is acquitted and allowed to go back to his life without a peep from the Feds, politicians or the media and the other, who is also acquitted (despite malfeasance by the special prosecutor), is forced into hiding, has to wear a bullet proof vest and deal with death threats to himself and his family. Never hear a peep from Sharpton, Jackson, Holder or Obama on that issue...
George Zimmerman Found Not Guilty
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Dogdragoness
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http://www.rc123.com/texas_castle_doctrine.html
THIS ^^^^^ this is why I love my state. **** you Obama, Sharpton & Jessie Jackson for wanting to take away my right to defend myself
BTW this gives me RIGHT to fire upon trespassers, sorry ... But I am a woman who lives alone on 70 acres in the middle of BFE ... I am taking no chances.
THIS ^^^^^ this is why I love my state. **** you Obama, Sharpton & Jessie Jackson for wanting to take away my right to defend myself
BTW this gives me RIGHT to fire upon trespassers, sorry ... But I am a woman who lives alone on 70 acres in the middle of BFE ... I am taking no chances.
JessLough
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No you don't...? You live with your parents. You've said so upteen billion times. And when you're not living with your parents, you're living with a bunch of other people at the track..
Anyway, I thought people said that in this case, the boy wasn't trespassing? So really that point is null..
Greenmagick
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Firing upon trespassers really has absolutely ZERO to do with this case or discussion btw.
Just because you have the legal right to do something doesnt make it morally right.
JessLough
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Anyway, I really just came in here to say what an awesome post this is.
Dogdragoness
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My grandmother is in failing health, when she passes away (which we fear is not far away
) my folks will move into town, thus leaving me the ranch. Though with all the family issues going on, my parents are hardly there anymore anyway. So it is kind of like living there by myself.I only am at the track when OH is in town racing, that is only from about may to the middle of August, then from November through the rest of the winter. BUT once my folks move in, I won't be able to do that, either.
I find it interesting that you go out of your way to nitpick & give me crap about every little thing very time I post something ... Hmm, it says something about you.
Dogdragoness
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referenced this because this whole fiasco with Zimmerman has made all the states with strong castle/ stand your ground laws start to question them. The ass hats in Washington don't understand, there isnnonpolice out here, & what police there are could take an hour or better to get here.
crazedACD
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I am reading this thread with interest...love it, don't have much to contribute myself though.
That law DOES NOT give you the right to fire upon a trespasser, or someone walking across your yard. If someone is actively engaged in breaking into your house, threatening you, or does not leave when asked to, you then have the right to use force to end the situation.
That law DOES NOT give you the right to fire upon a trespasser, or someone walking across your yard. If someone is actively engaged in breaking into your house, threatening you, or does not leave when asked to, you then have the right to use force to end the situation.
Dogdragoness
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All I have to do is state to them that this is private property (if there isn't a sign clearly posted) & that they are trespassing & that they must leave immediately, & give them a chance to do so, if they do not, them I have the right to use force.
The fine print of these laws csn very from city to city & county to county
The fine print of these laws csn very from city to city & county to county
Airn
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You love your state because you think it allows you to shoot people?
Your love of violence is unsettling.
Honestly, I'm on the fence. We will always recognize race. We can choose if we make that negative or positive. Ignoring color seems foolish. You should be proud of who you are and that includes your race.
I'm a white woman. I will never know how it feels to be a black man. I won't pretend I can.
Racism exists. Stereotyping exists. Bad people exist.
This case seems more of a straw that broke the camels back thing than the sole reason for the uproar.
I'm not sure what to believe or think. It is a horrible situation and I hope something positive can come out of this negative case.
(I'm not as eloquent as others are, so hopefully I got my message across.)
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Casey Anthony doesn't like to live that way either. That is what happens when a case gain media attention. Everybody, including homicidal loons, will hear about it. There were people who wanted to harm her too after she was acquitted, and people who think she deserves it.
sillysally
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sillysally
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I'm pretty sure she meant that she loves the fact that people in her state are given wide berth to defend themselves and their property. I'm not a gun owner but also love the fact that Indiana has similar laws. Enjoying self and home defense rights is not equal to loving violence.
Dogdragoness
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Yes, that's what I meant. We are not a Violent state (excluding the cities, but there is always more violence in the big cities) but I am proud of the fact that Texas believes its citizens should have the right to stand their ground.
This also protects my dogs if they ever (don't see this happening) but someone who was intruding or trying to harm me. This also applies to my vehicle ... Since a vehicle is also considered "personal property"
And that somehow makes it okay to do to Zimmerman? My point is that if the President can weigh in on how if feels to be a black man in America, why couldn't he point out that violence is wrong and any death threats made against Zimmerman, his family, the jury and those unfortunate few whose address and phone numbers were wrongly posted as Zimmerman's (and were/still are being harassed) will be investigated and charged?
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No, of course it isn't okay. It isn't okay to do that to Casey Anthony either. Unfortunately, there are some people out there who want to take justice into their own hands and create havoc for those they feel are wrong. The only reason the President commented on this story in the first place was because he was asked about it in a press conference.
Also, President Obama DID make a comment after the verdict was in to respect the decision.
Right back at you. You're ASSUMING they WOULD be different. The fatal flaw in the racism argument on this case is that NO WHITE PEOPLE were involved in the initial decision to NOT investigate & NOT press charges. The incident involve TWO minority males. The initial decision to NOT investigate further & to NOT press charges was made by a BLACK chief of police. The ONLY way to cry racism is to completely ignore the FACTS of the case.
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The chief of police who was fired for refusing to arrest Zimmerman and investigate was white. Here he is.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/soci...-trayvon-martin-case-they-just-wanted-arrest#
I believe this whole case started with Zimmerman racially profiling Trayvon. I stated before that I do not believe he is racist, but I do believe he holds some strong prejudices. I do believe that the lack of investigation and arrest would not have occurred if Zimmerman was black and Trayvon was white, and I've explain myself enough in my past post the reasons why so no need to explain it again. Is it an assumption? Yep, but I strongly believe it to be true given my reasons.
Greenmagick
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Where did you find the fact that the chief of police was black?
There are several facts you have posted in this thread that I have yet to see elsewhere......
Kat09Tails
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The chief of police in this story Bill Lee. Lee tried to resign in March and then was fired in June. I'll let you decide if this matters... personally I don't think it does.
Christopher Serino - The lead investigator or this thing prior to getting transferred out.
of note: Serino said he felt pressured by several of his fellow police officers to press charges on Zimmerman when he believed there was not enough evidence to do so, and that one of the officers pressuring him was a friend of Martin's father
Sanford's current police chief Cecil E Smith