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"Your dog's an easy breed for <sport> so the work you've done doesn't count."

She didn't come out of the womb with a competition ready heel, I swear! Plus, cut me some slack, she's the first dog I've ever really trained!
 

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"Your dog's an easy breed for <sport> so the work you've done doesn't count."

She didn't come out of the womb with a competition ready heel, I swear! Plus, cut me some slack, she's the first dog I've ever really trained!
Ha! Seems like you can't win with that can you? Either your breed is too easy or it's not 'real enough' for someone.

I got really dismayed the last AKC trial I went to. A lady was running a nice little maltese and I heard quite the peanut gallery of comments from a group of BC people. Seriously guys.... we all love dogs. Can't we get along and just be happy for each other?
 

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"You need dog experience before you own a certain breed."
DISAGREE. I love that. There are always exceptions, but for the 17 year old with no parental support, a GSP, sporter collie, Dobe, Mal, etc is going to be a bad fit most of the time. Someone who is a first time dig owner and naturally very sedentary probably shouldn't have a high energy breed. That sort of thing. I have a friend who DESPERATELY wants a corgi for his first dog, but can't stand shedding or actually putting the time in to work with a dog or even being home to let it out. I have trouble imagining him being capable of handling a retired racing greyhound, much less a Corgi. There is such a thing as being a first time dog owner and setting yourself up for failure.
 

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"Greyhounds can't/don't need to/shouldn't be trained."

"A greyhound can never safely be off leash."

"Did you rescue those poor dogs from the racetrack? Good for you. What a horrible life you saved them from."
 

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Ha! Seems like you can't win with that can you? Either your breed is too easy or it's not 'real enough' for someone.

I got really dismayed the last AKC trial I went to. A lady was running a nice little maltese and I heard quite the peanut gallery of comments from a group of BC people. Seriously guys.... we all love dogs. Can't we get along and just be happy for each other?
Right?

It might be because I have a Terv, so she's an "in" breed, but I do hear a lot of positive comments about off-breeds in rally and obedience too! The last rally trial I was at had two cane corsos that did really well and everyone I heard commenting was delighted. That made me happy. I'd bet a lot of it has to do with the people in the area, as well.

But obedience people can be super mean--I think some (not all!) people in the sport just like saying nasty things.
 
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"Your dog's an easy breed for <sport> so the work you've done doesn't count."
I still remember having a discussion with someone who is more of the "Correct first, reward, maybe.....much later" mentality and was basically told "Well, you have herders so your opinion doesn't count.

DISAGREE. I love that. There are always exceptions, but for the 17 year old with no parental support, a GSP, sporter collie, Dobe, Mal, etc is going to be a bad fit most of the time. Someone who is a first time dig owner and naturally very sedentary probably shouldn't have a high energy breed. That sort of thing. I have a friend who DESPERATELY wants a corgi for his first dog, but can't stand shedding or actually putting the time in to work with a dog or even being home to let it out. I have trouble imagining him being capable of handling a retired racing greyhound, much less a Corgi. There is such a thing as being a first time dog owner and setting yourself up for failure.
I disagree with your disagree!

I think it can be true, but it very very easily can not be true. There are a ton of second time, third time, 7th time dog owners who in no way shape or form should have a certain breed. But I think there are a good number of younger or well researched and prepared people that could pretty much handle any breed they set their sights too.

I think it strongly depends on the person and the dog and it's one of those broad generalizations that I don't like because it gives way to much credit to people who "have owned a dog" and not enough to the would be dedicated and well researched novice who may stumble along the way but puts everything into it and flourishes. Especially if they have the support of a good breeder or community.
 

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I think with young people it's important to really have a good idea what you want and are getting into and also keep in mind your life and lifestyle will likely change a lot in the next few years. I moved so many times with Summer and Mia (but especially Summer). Went from student to part time to unemployed to full time, acreage to no yard to yard, etc. If you want it bad enough, you'll find a way to make it happen though. Be smart and be dedicated... I find the people that don't make good dog owners generally don't no matter what their age.

I am glad though that I had some 'real' dog training experience with Summer and Mia before getting Hank or a dog with Hank's activity level and drive. We would have been ok before but it's helped me set him up for success.
 
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"Breeds" should not be around children/disabled/elderly.
Anything under 10lbs is not a dog. :rolleyes:
If you don't feed your dog(s) "insert food" and give them "insert" $$$ supplement your dog will become sick and die a horrible death. I have honestly heard that from a neighbor.
 

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I never understood the "_____ dogs aren't for apartment dwellers"/"this dog needs LOTS of exercise and needs a big yard"

From somebody who has both lived in a home and apartment, I'll tell you right now Merlin got TWICE as much exercise in an apartment than in a house with a yard lol it's called not having the option of letting them out :rofl1:

This dog breed isn't like ANY OTHER DOG THEY ARE MAGICAL WONDER BEEINGS

Puhleaseeeee

My dog doesn't need fancy collars/clothes, she's cute without them *hint-hint*

it's why we dress babies in cute outfits, because they are ugly and we hate them lol let people enjoy what they enjoy. It's so **** harmless!

Ugh trying to turn them into some kind of GOLDEN RETRIEVER (or similar kind of OH GOD NOT THEM retriever commentary

haters gon hate hate hate hate hate

Retrievers are lovely and popular because they are wonderful. It's not reason to use them as some kind of UGH GROSS issue because you don't like happy friendly dogs or because a breed you love gets hate. Nobody is asking you to have one but to bash another as less than just because is gross.

I never say no or yell to my dog, it's so negative. Always offer trade

LIAR!! LIAR!!
YOUR DOG IS ENJOYING THE CHRISTMAS HAM HE STOLE ON THE WHITE COUCH AND YOU ARE GONNA GO FIND A TREAT TO TRADE WITH??

No. You are going to ****ing yell. I understand not being a brute but come on.
 

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I disagree with your disagree!

I think it can be true, but it very very easily can not be true. There are a ton of second time, third time, 7th time dog owners who in no way shape or form should have a certain breed. But I think there are a good number of younger or well researched and prepared people that could pretty much handle any breed they set their sights too.

I think it strongly depends on the person and the dog and it's one of those broad generalizations that I don't like because it gives way to much credit to people who "have owned a dog" and not enough to the would be dedicated and well researched novice who may stumble along the way but puts everything into it and flourishes. Especially if they have the support of a good breeder or community.
You disagree with me every time you have the chance. :p I'm not surprised!

We are in complete agreement that it's not true for some people. Some people, as a first time owner, can handle a high-energy, high/drive, guardy, loud dog in their apartment while they're going to school, working full time, have three kids and will move 6 times in 6 years or some combination thereof. Is that the norm or the majority? My opinion is no. I don't think it's a blanket statement, but I've personally experienced it. I adopted a Doberman as a first time owner and I thought I was ready, the rescue thought I was ready... NOPENOPENOPE. He went back two weeks later because I couldn't properly exercise him and his drive was too much for me. I'm not saying an 8 year old Dobe wouldn't have been a good fit, but a young adult was a terrible idea.

I'll agree 100% that just because you're a dog owner you aren't ready for a certain breed. We've seen it happen with chazzers before, and I'd say this forum is full of above average dog owners. If I accidentally ended up with a Mal or a Dutchie today, it would be a mad scramble to rehome it, because they're not the sort of dog I could handle long term. I like to not be constantly injured by my dog. :eek:

They're generalizations, not right all the time. I can say Toyotas are reliable and people usually won't point out that the ATs in Rav4s in the 2000s are guaranteed to explode around 120kmi.
 

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This dog breed isn't like ANY OTHER DOG THEY ARE MAGICAL WONDER BEEINGS
They actually found a gene in Malinois that creates some sort of spastic awake seizure activity that miiiiight be contributing to...well, spastic behavior :p. Certain mals/lines though. There was articles and stuff about it.
I like science and when science says so, then we can say OK this breed IS a little different from the others :p.
 

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I disagree with your disagree!

I think it can be true, but it very very easily can not be true. There are a ton of second time, third time, 7th time dog owners who in no way shape or form should have a certain breed. But I think there are a good number of younger or well researched and prepared people that could pretty much handle any breed they set their sights too.

I think it strongly depends on the person and the dog and it's one of those broad generalizations that I don't like because it gives way to much credit to people who "have owned a dog" and not enough to the would be dedicated and well researched novice who may stumble along the way but puts everything into it and flourishes. Especially if they have the support of a good breeder or community.
Yep. Sally was my first dog as an adult. She fell into our laps, we were not planning on a dog. I knew horses, not dogs and DH had never owned a dog. We had an apartment and Sally was a one year old pit bull who wasn't even house broken. I still thought you rubbed dogs noses in accidents to house break. I learned how to teach her to sit and lay down from Google. When we got her I was convinced that grocery store food was absolutely fine and only dogs with health problems needed the "specialty" foods at pet stores. I was also very wary of pit bulls and was not entirely convinced she wouldn't "turn" on us for the first week or so that we owned her.

However, we made it work and I wouldn't trade her for the world. Nine years later and she hasn't eaten us in our sleep. Sally is a much easier dog than Jack in many ways actually. DH has told me repeatedly that she is the perfect dog and the next dog we get needs to be "Just like Sally."

Generalizations that drive me nuts:

Dog kills a stray cat: "OMG! Put it down! Next time it could be a CHILD!"

Dog is fed raw meat: "Once they taste blood, they're ruined!"

If you buy from a breeder, you are killing a shelter dog.

All shelter dogs have issues.

Labs are mindlessly obedient idiots who lack personality and not a breed "real" dog people would want to own.

Labs love everyone and therefore are not loyal to their owners. Not true. Jack definitely has his favorite people in order of priority. He does like to greet strangers, but he certainly shows a preference for those people that he knows and gets bored with greeting after a while.
 
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My biggest beef with generalizations is when those using them think they are the rule. That goes for all of them. X breed can't do this. Breed A is good at this. You can' train with this collar because all this bad stuff over here will happen. You can't train this static exercise by using movement. and on and on.
 

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Pit bulls are all ticking timebombs.

Pit bulls aren't actually dog aggressive, it's all in how you raise them.

Pit bulls need a firm hand.

If your pit bull is dog aggressive, it must have been fought.


Basically ANYTHING EVER SAID ABOUT PIT BULLS ARGH
 

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That animal aggression equals human aggression.

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I hate this one. I see this on horse boards all the time. If a dog kills barn cats its labelled horrible and should be shot. Then people jump in and say the dog should be worked with and that will fix it.

I get flack for asking if one should shoot a cat if it kills rodents or if could be worked with to easily ignore instinct.
 

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"Your dog's an easy breed for <sport> so the work you've done doesn't count."

She didn't come out of the womb with a competition ready heel, I swear! Plus, cut me some slack, she's the first dog I've ever really trained!
YES! This, so much!!

Long Conversation Short: I had a person tell me recently that they want to get "a Codex" for disc dog so they can win things too.. apparently I only win because of my dog. We do well because we're a team and we practice... the person that said this to me is just looking for an easy route to the top.
 

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Long Conversation Short: I had a person tell me recently that they want to get "a Codex" for disc dog so they can win things too.. apparently I only win because of my dog. We do well because we're a team and we practice... the person that said this to me is just looking for an easy route to the top.
Yeah! The Joe Public opinion of the dog is well behaved because of it's breed. Guarantee this dog would be a nightmare without the hours of training I've done.
 

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Yeah! The Joe Public opinion of the dog is well behaved because of it's breed. Guarantee this dog would be a nightmare without the hours of training I've done.
Ugh I get it with Cobain all the freaking time. "Oh well, he's a Border Collie, they're so smart they just know to be well behaved"
Excuse me?

I'd love to tell them that if they went out and bought their own with that mind-set, they would have an awful dog. And I'm willing to bet that the excuse would be "He must be broken or stupid because he's not perfect" instead of owning up to not doing any training.
 

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Yeah! The Joe Public opinion of the dog is well behaved because of it's breed. Guarantee this dog would be a nightmare without the hours of training I've done.
Yup, forgot about this one, hate this sooo much. The amount of stressy/overstimulated/barknockingrunoutbeast border collies that never get anywhere in sports, just that I've heard of...is high. It's just like when people tell me that my camera takes great pictures. :confused:

Seriously, they should see what comes out if you set it on auto.
 

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