Foods containing euthanasia drug

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That's even more frightening, considering how easily beef contaminated with pentobarbital can make its way into the general food supply.

I am so glad I have a freezer full of beef that I have personal knowledge of every single thing that's been ingested or introduced into the production!
 

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There is a book called "Fast Food Nation" that discuss this topic briefly - especially how the cycle between the various food sources are being fed to each other: pets, cattle, horses, and swine. :eek:
 

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"Restaurant grease has become a major component of feed grade animal fat over the last fifteen years. This grease, often held in fifty-gallon drums, may be kept outside for weeks, exposed to extreme temperatures with no regard for its future use. "Fat blenders" or rendering companies then pick up this used grease and mix the different types of fat together, stabilize them with powerful antioxidants to retard further spoilage, and then sell the blended products to pet food companies and other end users. The grease is then sprayed on the kibble, to make bland food palatable."
:eek: OMG! :eek: That's disgusting! Ugh...and the list of pet foods scared me, too. I feed my two puppies Puppy Chow (which I didn't like before I read that). I haven't gotten to change their food yet (unexpected family emergency has got us on a very tight budget). And, Shelby is so picky that she only likes Kibbles n' bits. She'll have to get used to eating something healthy...Thanks for posting this information.

But, I did have a question regarding Josephine's list: why is Canidae not listed there? I've heard it's a wonderful holistic pet food.
 

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There is a monthly (holistic) guide that I subscribe to called Whole Dog Journal (WDJ). Each year, it does extensive studies and rates both dry and canned dog foods. The results are published in their December (canned) and February (dry foods) editions. The journal is wonderful. It provides a lot of great information on how to take care of your dogs naturally. I included the February's 2005 article on dog food to give you an idea of how they rate food products. It's long but worth the read cause I believe you are all "Camp B" folks out there!

I highly recommend this monthly subscription for anyone that loves to learn about natural healthy ways to take great care of their beloved pups! Google it under ?Whole Dog Journal? ~ you find out how to subscribe!
 
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dogtired, please be aware that you are violating copyright by directly copying and pasting information from the WDJ. i'm not talking about address listings, but actual parts of articles.
 
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I've e-mailed the magazine asking for permission to allow the article to remain posted. When I hear back from them I'll act in accordance with their wishes. They are a publication that does NOT rely on advertising to support expenses in order to remain impartial, and, as such, this is a publication that is supported by subscription. www.whole-dog-journal.com
 

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I just wanted to inform you that when I worked in a vet clinic for 5 years we saw MANY,MANY dogs that came in with urinary tract infections and crystals . They all ate the same food, Nutro Lamb and Rice. My dogs were on it for a while and had the same problem. I switched immediatley and it never came back again. I own/show pugs and they all eat the same food as puppies and as adults. I feed Solid Gold Just A Wee Bit. It is specially formulated for small breeds. I suggest that you try this and feed them each seperatley, twice a day. You may be suprised by how much they like it. It's worth the money and it does not have any of the "bad stuff" in it. If you read the ingredient list, you will see only foods and words that you can recognize and pronounce. Not to mention, when you open the vacume sealed bag, it smells like fresh edible food and not fatty and stale like the other foods. I sware by it! Their skin is great, eyes clear, coats are full and shiny...which is an added benefit for the show ring!! I will put a link to their website : http://www.solidgoldhealth.com.

Happy feeding!
 
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You'll notice that the article from the Whole Dog Journal has been deleted. I received an answer to my e-mail:

Dear Renee:

Thank you for contacting us regarding the use by http://www.chazhound.com/forums of the dog food article from The Whole Dog Journal. The Publisher and Editor-in-Chief have a firm policy of not allowing our editorial material on other websites and forums. The use and misuse of our articles has gotten out of control, so they just don't allow it. In fact, there is someone on staff who works full time to find and legally enforce these copyright infringements so she probably would have uncovered your forum at some point. We appreciate your honesty and desire to educate members about better dog care, but we do request that the posting be removed immediately.

Please contact me if you have any questions.

Sincerely,

Mona Kornfeld
Belvoir Media Group
Ph: (203) 857-3143
Fax: 203/857-3103
 
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Basically, just that they don't let anyone use their articles and that even if we had not contacted them for their permission they would have found us anyway and zapped us.

They didn't even read the e-mail I sent them very carefully. This person seems to think that I was the one who posted the article. I asked them to look at the forum and see the context in which it was used, but the reply came back so quickly and is such a rote "no" that I doubt they even looked.

I've gotta admit, I'm kind of disappointed in a publication that is supposed to be concerned about the welfare of dogs. I understand that they are solely supported by subscriptions and can't afford to let their work be posted all over the net, but I'm disconcerted that no one actually took the time to evaluate and realize that it was excellent publicity and could have resulted in new subscribers. I had planned to subcribe, but have changed my mind.

After all, we have Mordy, and I believe her information is much better researched and evaluated with a keener mind . . . and she cares :D
 

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while i currently still do read the WDJ, i'm not going to renew my subscription once it runs out.

these people do not seem to realize that with such an attitude they are not going to get any new subscribers. and besides that, "solely supported by subscriptions" my ass - they sell the addresses of all their subscribers and once you subscribe you will be bombarded by junk mail. not email spam, but paper that you actually have to throw out.
 
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That's good to know about the mailing lists, Mordy.

I sent them a return e-mail confirming that I'd removed the article and [politely] expressing my dismay at their dog-in-the-manger attitude. It's not like it was even a current article!

At any rate, you know how much we appreciate your hard-earned knowledge and your generous sharing.
 

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Hi, I've been gone a while and read most of this stuff last nite. I apologize for causing quite a commotion. I kinda knew it might be a problem, but I wanted to get the info out quick. I gave as much information about the article's originator as possible hoping this would make of for it. Your right Renee750il, it was an older article, similar to one they post on an annual basis. I even gave WDJ a bunch of cudos. ~So much for that. I'll be more careful in the future.
 

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dogtired, no harm done, i just posted because i know the crappy attitude WDJ has about their stuff being crossposted on the internet.
 

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I got my Sam,a blck Shih-Tuz at 4mths aside from how the pevious owner had treated him,i watched him constantly up heave any kind of processed dog food. a rash on his tummy Then started with the digging,then his hair was falling out.the vet. told me it was fleas,thank god i didn't believe him.So, at a young age he became a vegetarian of sorts.I cook his food he eats no more processed food.He eats well cooked chicken,fish,all veggies,and some fruits.He gets no fillers like rice,i use everyday spices like we would use on our food,very little salt.Some would say he is spoiled,but, i don't have a sick dog anymore,and $200 vet. bills.He also gets olive oil, a teaspoon in his food once a day.His visit back to the vet for a rabies shot brought me a mad vet.who had to admit he is very healthy,and hated to admit he could have been wrong.An didn't sell me a $10 bag of "this is good for him" dog food.Please watch what your vet is doing,and the fod makers,sometimes momma knows best.A friend of mine lost her dog, her heart stopped, the vet was pumping her so full of drugs. Don't trust everything you are told,it's your dog,you live with it an see the symptoms every day.
 
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I have one dog on a prescription diet by orders of the veterinarian, one on "Breeder's Choice-Active Formula (chicken meal & rice)," and my youngest is on "California Natural-Chicken Meal & Rice" mixed with "Pinnacle" wet food. I buy all of these from a dog boutique whom I patronize regularly and claims that they only carry the highest quality foods/treats. I have had tremendous luck with all of my dog's diets, especially the "California Natural." I was wondering if anybody had any information regarding these foods. I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
 
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The California Natural is made by NaturaPet, the same people who make Innova and Karma, and you can't get any better quality - or ethics, for that matter. I don't know Breeder's Choice or anything about Pinnacle.

If the prescription diet food is made by Hills/Science Diet you're getting scammed, pure and simple. The quality is deplorable, but you're paying the kind of prices you'd pay for food that actually had nutritive value.

Why don't you start a thread with your question about the foods. Mordy can probably tell you exactly what you want to know. You should check out her website too. You'll learn how to see through the arcane hogwash on most dog food labels. ;)
 

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