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hi, i would like to know what are the best teaching methods, for stopping my 7 month old labrador to not jump up, and getting him to settle down.

He is in a kennel with a run attached to it all day apart from the weekends, and when i go to let him out of it, he is very hypo and he jumps up and it takes for ever for him to settle down, i know he's a pup and puppys are ment to be very active especially if they have been in a kennel all day, but is there anyway to stop this it gets SO annoying sometimes :confused:
 

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I don't want to jumo down your throat here but...
Does the dog come in at all during the daytime? He has every right to be rambunctious once getting out of the kennel. Not only is he socially isolated, he has no excercise.
Alot of people think a big back yard is the key to excercise, but it's rare for a dog to excercise itself. Not many dogs just run around in circles till they are tired. It sounds like you need to spen more time with him.
 
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I agree with bridey....I think being penned up all day is your problem here. Is there a reason why the puppy is not allowed in the house? If he is isolated all day, he's going to be hyper when someone comes home to play with him. Is he out there at night time as well? Agreeing with bridey again, it does sound like the puppy needs more time to be spent with him.
 

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geez Victor did two hours at the off leash park and isn't the least be tired today. I can't imagine what he would be like if he was in a kennel..that would atrophy his muscles as well as his mind.
 

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try to spend more time with obedience training. Take you puppy to puppy school, if you can. Labs are VERY hyper and VERY playful, so if he's kenneled up all day he'll need a couple hours of playing fetch or whatever he plays (mine plays fetch). Also mine has someone to play with to (another dog) at all times. Try teaching him to sit before he gets attention (pets, treats, or before you throw the ball). That way he'll associate getting good stuff if he sits and doesn't jump around. Once he knows sit, if he doesn't already, tell him to sit and then pet him and if he gets up stop petting him and make him sit agian. Only pet him when he's sitting down and eventually he'll learn if he wants to get attention he has to sit and he can't be jumping all around. It works with our lab who's almost 4 months old. Plus don't try to do this right after he gets out of his kennel play with him a little while before you start any kind of training.
 

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Pups have to be in with the family to socialize...especially a lab. Do you bring him in when your get home to stay all night with you ? I can see the kennel during the day at this age when no one's home, but you have to have him part of the family.
 

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Yeah, our lab is VERY people oriented, if your home and she's not with you she CRIES. Not only should the puppy be socialized with your family but also other dogs, and people as well. We take our puppy everywhere that we can (park, petstore, family parties). The more unusual things that your puppy gets used to the better it is for the puppy.
 

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Yes, you should keep him out of the kennel and in the house more. But, back to the reason you posted, do you want him to lie down, or keep off of people and furniture and stuff? If you want him to lie down, only say DOWN! but if you want him off people and furniture say OFF!
 

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Thanks for all the replies...............He is in a run all day as i am at school and no one else is at home and we live next door to a farm, it would be unsuitable to keep him in the house also as we have cats and they get him even more hypo, i do take him out as soon as i get home from school which varies from 4:30-5......i have started using the tips some of you posted teaching him to sit before he is allowed attention and it has been working every now and then but i guess its just gonna take time. he is a very indoors dog so basically as soon as i let him off he runs round and i go inside so he sits at the door whinning and barking to come, any ideas on how to stop that?? anyway thanks again for all the replies!!!!!
 

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Let him inside. Labs are very people oriented, they LOVE to be around you. Maybe stay outside and play with him once you let him out. Does he like playing fetch? Or take him for a walk. If I let my puppy out to go potty she will scratch and jump at the door until I let her inside.
 
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katie21 said:
Thanks for all the replies...............He is in a run all day as i am at school and no one else is at home and we live next door to a farm, it would be unsuitable to keep him in the house also as we have cats and they get him even more hypo, i do take him out as soon as i get home from school which varies from 4:30-5......i have started using the tips some of you posted teaching him to sit before he is allowed attention and it has been working every now and then but i guess its just gonna take time. he is a very indoors dog so basically as soon as i let him off he runs round and i go inside so he sits at the door whinning and barking to come, any ideas on how to stop that?? anyway thanks again for all the replies!!!!!
You say the cats get him even more hyper, so what about keeping the puppy in the kitchen or sectioning off an area of your house so that he can be inside during the day, so that he is away from the cats, but still feels like he's part of the pack? Keep working on having your pup sit before you give attention, and you may also want to give it a shot at ignoring your pup until he settles down as soon as he sees you. My 6 month old puppy is still in the process of learning to be calm when I get home in order to get attention. He is slowly grasping the concept that when I get home from work, I need to be able to get in the house without being attacked with hugs and kisses. I just ignore him until I get inside and put all of my things away and wash my hands. He knows that after I wash my hands it's time to play and get loves hugs and kisses.

To answer your question about getting him to stop whining and barking to come inside after you have gone in, let him in with you!! He wants to be with you and needs to feel like he's part of the pack.

Once you get home from school, and you go visit with him, how long are you staying with him until you go inside? What are you doing with him while you visit with him? Are you playing a game that helps him burn up his pent up energy? Try playing fetch, hide and seek, tug games, play with a frisbee, tennis ball, anything that will help him have fun and burn up some energy. Once you have played with him, start having small training sessions with him. I started with three minute sessions when my pup was 12 weeks old, a few times a day for three minutes we would work on sit and stay, then just increase the minutes as he gets older and the commands.

Another few questions, sorry for the long post, but does your pup ever come inside? After you get home from school, do you play with him outside and then let him come in? And, does he sleep outside or does he sleep in the house?
 

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Did you do any research on the breed before getting him? Did you even give him a chance to stay inside with everyone, or just put him outside because you don't want to deal with it? Why do you leave him outside too when you go back from school???? Did you even train him?

Puppy proof a room, get a baby gate, that will get rid of the cat problem, they most likely won't come to bother him and he won't be able to chase them. I have a 7 months golden and they can all get along ok even though he still occasionally chases them, so I just leave him in a room with a gate when I'm gone.

Why in the world would it be unsuitable to keep him inside because you live next to a farm????

I'm going to sound rude, but if you're not willing to let him inside, I suggest finding him a good home that will.
 

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firstly i didnt do any research on his breed because i got him from the pound so i didnt exactly know what dog i was going to get, but if you want i spose i could have easily just left him there for a few more days and done some research then decided nah don't want him and he would have got put down, personally i think i made the right choice.......also i ment its unsuuitable to leave him outside by himself not in his run because we live next to a farm and our neighbours have threatened to shoot him if he is ever on their property....i have already suggested to get a baby gate to my dad but he doesnt want to do that and also because he could just chew thru the gate as he has already done to our banister.......i do let him inside very often but i prefer not to have him inside when he is hyper as he is very solid and will end up breaking things...........when i let him out i play fetch with him for about 15 mins but then i go inside and leave him outside to run around by himself, i would walk him everyday but it is hard when i have alot of school work to be doing....he is always inside by the time it gets dark and always stays inside untill he wants back out, he also sleeps inside

im sorry i may not be such an expert on raising a puppy but i thought this is what this site was for........TO HELP PEOPLE NOT CRITISISE THERE EVERY ACTION
 

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Alright everyone lets just CALM DOWN! We don't want to scare anyone else away from this forum. I know raising your first puppy is hard stuff (I'm assuming this is your first puppy). I know that I have made my fair share of mistakes in raising my three (but I have fixed them to the best of my ability). Try playing with him more when you come home, do your homework outside so you can still throw the ball to him and he can still know that you are around. Do some obedience work with him (sit, down, stay). The dog is begging to feel like more of the family is all he is doing. It's not your fault either, I know it's hard with school and everything, you just have to remember that he needs A LOT of attention as he is still a puppy and needs the security of his pack. He will always need and crave your attention and do whatever he can to get it. Please don't take to heart some things that people may say. They don't mean to sound mean to you they just are very passionate about somethings and don't know how to control themselves about certain subjects. I'm sure you can relate and feel the same way about things.
 

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Well all dogs from the pound will most likely break things in the house if you don't put them away. That's why you need to puppy proof the house when you get a puppy, and put everything that could be broken away. I'm also going to sound mean too but the dog doesn't realize when he is put down, he does however realize when he is unhappy because of lack of attention and he is seperated from his pack.

For the chewing, well you can just ignore it but it will not fix the problem. You don't want him to chew on something, train him not to! Leaving him alone is just going to make things worse, he's going to be unhappy and totally uncontrollable when inside of course!

You play with him 15 minutes a day? He needs more. Most dogs don't run by themselves when left alone, and with labs your dog will probably end up being obese in a year.

Yes, we criticize what you do, because you don't seem to care what we say. You find excuses for everything but you won't listen to our advice. This dog needs much more attention that what you've been giving him, and not to be alone outside when there are people inside.

Believe me, I'm not the perfect pet owner either, I admit I should give Boris more excercise etc, but at least I keep him with me, and when I didn't like what he's doing in the house, I trained him not to do it, or put the stuff away when it was doable... not him.
 

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i agree, more time needed, but to stop him jumping. When he starts, just ignore him, walk away or inside or whatever. He wants your attention, even if it is being yelled at or whatever, he is still getting attention
 

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Ok, lets settle down and look at this situation.
Katie, you, or your parents did do a whole bunch of stuff wrong. You got a breed of dog that needs loads of excercise and tonnes of human affection, when you obviously weren't willing to provide enough of either. But, you probably didn't know any of that at the time and now you are in a bit of a situation.
Firstly, are you willing to convince your parents to have the dog inside?
If not, find him a good home.
If so, are you willing to do some no-chasey-cat training? (not as hard as it seems)
If not, find him a good home.
If so, that's great. Dogs should only be bought when they are going to live a meaningful life with their family. Labs are great dogs, but they can be HYPER!!!!!
they need loads of excercise, and they won't excercise themselves.
If you do find a good home for your pup, but still want a dog, have a look into some of the toy breeds. They sound alot more suited to your home.
 

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The only trouble....many toy breeds are bred for companionship. I'm thinking of my Chihuahuas, for example. And they would be crushed little souls if left alone all day every day. So would any breed, but most toys are very dependent. And they have to be inside and highly supervised when outside, as there are birds of prey to watch out for and other animals. So, they too, take a lot of attention.

Bigger dogs do need exercise and lots of it and obedience training. And like everyone said Katie, they need to be with their families. Labs were bred to work along side man, to do everything with their person and are quite dependent on family. They're known as a "family" dog. I had a Lab and if I had left her outside and not spent very much time with her, she would have become bored, destructive and unmannerly. She would have been miserable if not allowed to be inside, lounging near me or in front of the fireplace. The dogs I have now; two Chihuahuas and a Doberman....same thing. My Doberman was bred to protect his person or family and he HAS to be near me most of the time. He's a lovely dog and happy. If he were left on his own outside without human contact, he too would not be the same dog who he is.

Most all of the behavior problems you speak of are due to the relationship your dog has with you and your family. The skills to not jump and other things can be taught quite easily. But not if the dog is outside all the time. He can't get the hang of what it's like to live in a human's house or with humans....learn our ways of being "civilized" if he's not allowed to practice or experience that on an ongoing basis. Dogs are animals, not humans. They don't automatically behave mannerly to our ways. They do what dogs do. And until the dog is allowed to partake in a family life, he will remain very much in a state of doing what dogs do and that is all the stuff we don't like; jumping, peeing inside, marking, taking things, chewing up things, destroying stuff, pawing at you, biting.... etc...

If your folks don't want the dog to be with the family when you all are at home, then I would have to agree that a new home and new family would be the kindest, most unselfish thing you could do. Perhaps cats are a better pet for you, as they are quite a bit more independent, needing to socialize with people, but not quite so intensely or closely. Dogs were pack animals and as such must be with their human "pack."
 

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Doberluv, i have chi's too, arn't they great. When i said a toy breed, i thought maybe it would be allowed in the house all the time because it wouldn't be as, well, labradory.
 

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