DEMANDING Food

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I've written before about my 15-16 year old yorkie/pom, but a short recap is he was diagnosed with a continuous heart murmur 2-3 years back and has bad teeth. Vet [and I have gotten 2nd opinion] feels surgery is too much of a risk for teeth, so we have always just managed when he gets an infection with antibiotics and pain pills. He is on a water pill all the time.

He goes through phases on his eating habits, some times normal and some times real demanding. He's never had a weight problem, always been a real lean dog up until his murmur...even now, he's not really all that overweight, though I would guess he's gained a tad [he stays pretty much between 7-8 pounds each time weighed at vet, dropping closer to 6 when he's having a real bad bout].

But he's become VERY demanding when he is hungry. I wish I could give a accurate routine, but it changes. For example, this week he is demanding. Without mercy, stands up placing front paws on leg when I'm sitting, pacing, staring intensely, dancing/spinning/hitting back of my leg [when I walk across room, this is his ritual for feeding time, except I have no food in these cases], knocking things around [searching in crazy places], start attacking my other dog, etc. He won't give up, I feed him or he just keeps going...I've tested it, he's relentless. lol

So that's what I do, feed him and then he will be satisfied, until around night time, where we repeat the cycle [which is odd, as he's usually not wanting to be fed again...when not in demand mode, he will put nose up to food twice a day]. I keep him on mostly a diet of canned [pro plan savor, beef/rice entree] because of his teeth...I have tried to pre soak hard food into the mix to give him a little more filler, but some times that causes him to go off his food so I try not to push it. But I'll be blunt, I'll feed him a steak covered in gravy if that's what he wants regardless if it's healthy or not...his time is getting shorter, despite him proving me and vets wrong time and time again, it's going to happen. But if he is still dancing, and showing signs he wants to be here...I'm not going to take that away nor be particular about what he wants during that time. I tried doing things I 'thought' would be better and healthier for him and wind up with an infection. I just think now, it's not going to matter. His time is set and he will pick it, regardless of what he is eating.

It just seems like he's gone into a crazy mode during these times and I'm not sure what to make of it. I mean, it's fine if that's what I have to do, no complaints...but I do wonder why he is SO hungry. He's eating well over a dog his size should, and not gaining...he stays same weight whether he's eating normal or going through demand mode. Is there something going on with his body that tells him he needs more food than normal?

It's more of a curiosity, I am not going to take him to vet and run him through a bunch of tests to find the answers, but thought maybe someone would have some insight here.
 

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Is he on any other meds besides the lasix? Different medications (namely steroids) can cause an increase in appetite.

When Blackie was an old man, he became increasingly demanding with food and had a hard time keeping weight on. As it turns out, he ended up having a mass on his liver (or was it his spleen? I'm unsure now) that was likely cancerous. The underlying health issues coupled with some dementia caused him to act ravenous and really zero in on anything that could potentially be food. We never really did anything to solve the problem, nor did we try to figure out why...we just fed him more and let him eat whatever treats he wanted.
 

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I had a similar experience with my cocker spaniel in her twilight years. She would relentlessly try to get to food, attempting the same thing for hours on end despite getting no reward. She turned out to have Cushing's syndrome, and she got a bit less intense once she was medicated for that. Still, she did best when she had her food stuffed in a Kong or other puzzle. She also had plenty of bully sticks and other things to gnaw so she could have food on demand and spend a while working on it.
 
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Is he on any other meds besides the lasix? Different medications (namely steroids) can cause an increase in appetite.

When Blackie was an old man, he became increasingly demanding with food and had a hard time keeping weight on. As it turns out, he ended up having a mass on his liver (or was it his spleen? I'm unsure now) that was likely cancerous. The underlying health issues coupled with some dementia caused him to act ravenous and really zero in on anything that could potentially be food. We never really did anything to solve the problem, nor did we try to figure out why...we just fed him more and let him eat whatever treats he wanted.
He is only on the pills for fluids [and to] help his cough by releasing some pressure off his trachea. Half a pill twice a day.

He is not having any weight issues, but he does have a semi-big cyst on his toosh. The vet didn't seem concerned [or assumed his time was near anyhow] when pointing it out, just said what it was and they can change sizes [up and down]. He's had it for just about as long as he's had the heart murmur if I am remembering right....doesn't change size, is bit soft and feels like there's liquid in it.
 
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I had a similar experience with my cocker spaniel in her twilight years. She would relentlessly try to get to food, attempting the same thing for hours on end despite getting no reward. She turned out to have Cushing's syndrome, and she got a bit less intense once she was medicated for that. Still, she did best when she had her food stuffed in a Kong or other puzzle. She also had plenty of bully sticks and other things to gnaw so she could have food on demand and spend a while working on it.
I have tried to give him things to chew in past, but he has no interest...he fetches and wrestles with stuffies, that's bout max [use to be pro fetcher in his younger days]. I would be surprised if he would go for anything he has to work for, simply because his mouth is so sensitive. I'm not even being sarcastic, wind can make him flinch [especially during an infection, he's actually fell over on a good gust like someone just punched him...this is where I am very happy the vet allows me to put him on pain pills].

He seems pretty satisfied long as I get him those feedings during his demanding periods. It helps knowing that others have gone through this and I'm just not loosing my mind...
 

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