Decided to rehome bruno

[ToscasMom]

Aw look at that face!

 

[taratippy]

And it amazes me how dog owners can condone disposing of a dog who desperately needs help.

I may be wrong but Im assuming this was aimed at me as it came under my post! You can think whatever you want about me as a dog owner but under the circumstances given Im trying to think whats best for this dog and offer practicle advice to enable it to go to a better home where it can be assessed and trained and lead a normal happy life!

No I dont condone of disposing of a dog just because of a few difficulties but I feel the decision has been made and as Im heavily into rescue (all my 6 are rescues) I want to see this dog helped hence my post regarding dog pages, so slam away but at the end of the day its the dog that counts.

 

[hedwig]

you no tosca your getting on my nerves sorry to be rude, i told every one he is insured so if he gets hurt i can pay for it.

plus you said with a tempory boyfriend? what the hell is that supposed to mean!!!

when i was with him i thought it was for life! WE could afford him and the training!

i admit things aint turned out as planned but i have managed, i have another post on here called do i make a worthy owner if you would like to search it and that is how we are living at the moment but with less money at the moment.

the only reason i am even thinking about rehoming is because of my pregnant sister will soon moving back here and i need to leave, other wise i could more then manage!

i have to like you said, stop spending money on him to help save money for a place, i would lov3e a foster home for him as this would work out pervfectly!

im being completely honest here! i av decided to keep him as things are (manageable) but that doesnt cure my housing situation!

 

[hedwig]

i would never have kids as i would kill them pure and simple. thats why i cant stick aroundn when my sister moves back as im too much of a danger.

i have no patients for people, animals on the other side are a different story.......

you all are making me out to have been very careeless when i got my dog.
it was not like that at all!

i was with a boyfriend who i thought was my soulmate, you dont dream of it ever ending, i did think what would i do if i ever did break up n my mum offered her place so i had a back up plan. but i did not think in my wildest dreams my sister would get preg n come back as well, she is 17!

i could of managed with her but a BABY! no way.

i admit my responsibility and ownership of bruno n maby the title of the thread is a bit harse but there you go.

i want to do the best by him and if that means if he is better off with someone else then i would rather give him up.

its because i love him i made this decision. but i am looking into moving into live in jobs which is far from what i want as i will have to move away from my family!

but if it means i can keep him its worth fighting for!

 

[mrose_s]

okay, i havn't read every post but i thought maybe i shoudl step in to defend you. Hedwig came here obvisouly stressed and needing help, there ARE legit reasons for rehoming a dog, no-one flamed Gempress when she was considering rehoming voodoo.
How about we be happy he wasn't dumped at the pound when the relationship broke up?
I can imagine how difficult it must be for you to make this decision and i don't think anyone that has an actual interst in this forum would rehome their dog because they think they are disposable.

I was going to say, why not try a cheaper food to start with? It may not be AS good but many dogs are fed cheaper food and live long, happy lives. So untill you get out of this financial rut, maybe thta.
Look around for anything you can sell on ebay, for the training costs.

Live in your car? I imagine must cheaper and i plan on doing it when i move out while i drive around the country and decide where i wanna live.
I'd say you would have to find him a behaviourist before you even consider rehoming him because his human-fear-aggression may make him unable to be rehomed.

how long till your sister moves back?
Any chance of finding more high paying jobs?

Its just, even if you and Bruno have to go a bit undernourished etc for a while, it would probably be less stressful than leaving you.

PM me if you want, I want you and Bruno to stay together but i understand if that isn't possible.

 

[EbonyDal]

Things happen. People make mistakes. Having said that...a live animal is involved here. If you accept your commitment to this dog then do whatever it takes to make things work. You say you dont like kids, but you already have one: Your dog. You may have to put up with your sisters baby so that you and your dog can have a roof over your head and save for your own place. If you arent willing to do that then explore alternatives where you can go with your dog. If your dog has a training problem, get library books and work on retraining every chance you get. Sit down and write yourself a budget and stick to it. If you want to keep your dog badly enough, you can find a way to do it. What if you rehome the dog and he bites someone? Your situation is hard but not impossible.

 

[StevePax]

This post is for Hedwig - I suggest most others not read it.

Hedwig - Turn off your computer. Delete your bookmark to the chazhound forums. Take some time to think about what's best for you and the dog without listening to anyone else. I'm serious - turn off your computer and don't come back here. You are getting emotionally charged and pulled this way and that because of things you are reading here, and it's not good for you. Stop reading this thread, take a couple of days to think about what you need, and what your dog needs, ignoring completely people who don't fully understand your situation (even if they think they do). Then do what you need to with your dog and your life. That's my advice. Don't look back - it's not worth it, and you and only you can really decide what you need.

 

[Fruit bat]

i would never have kids as i would kill them pure and simple. thats why i cant stick aroundn when my sister moves back as im too much of a danger.

Wow thats disturbing, If thats true then I think you should give up the dog. Maybe get your head checked.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

I may be wrong but Im assuming this was aimed at me as it came under my post! You can think whatever you want about me as a dog owner but under the circumstances given Im trying to think whats best for this dog and offer practicle advice to enable it to go to a better home where it can be assessed and trained and lead a normal happy life!

No I dont condone of disposing of a dog just because of a few difficulties but I feel the decision has been made and as Im heavily into rescue (all my 6 are rescues) I want to see this dog helped hence my post regarding dog pages, so slam away but at the end of the day its the dog that counts.

Just because it was under your post doesn't mean a darn thing. If you would read other posts, you would know what I was referring to.

 

[ToscasMom]

you no tosca your getting on my nerves sorry to be rude, i told every one he is insured so if he gets hurt i can pay for it.

I wasn't thinking about him getting hurt, I was thinking about what he might do to somebody else without behavior training. If I got on your nerves, then I have achieved something here. I think you need to put more thought into how to deal with this dog because I don't believe you will be able to place him in the condition you have described.

plus you said with a tempory boyfriend? what the hell is that supposed to mean!!!

Did he turn out to be temporary? What I mean here, is you cannot depend on others as a method of planning a future, your security or the safety of the loved ones you accepted responsibility for. As you can see, that doesn't always work out. You boyfriend is gone, but your dog is still with you.

As a side issue, I am very interested as to why you think this is so

i would never have kids as i would kill them pure and simple. thats why i cant stick aroundn when my sister moves back as im too much of a danger.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

no-one flamed Gempress when she was considering rehoming voodoo.

Completely difference reasons than "I just can't care for him anymore." I think it's very unwise of you to bring another member into this discussion.

This post is for Hedwig - I suggest most others not read it.

Hedwig - Turn off your computer. Delete your bookmark to the chazhound forums. Take some time to think about what's best for you and the dog without listening to anyone else. I'm serious - turn off your computer and don't come back here. You are getting emotionally charged and pulled this way and that because of things you are reading here, and it's not good for you. Stop reading this thread, take a couple of days to think about what you need, and what your dog needs, ignoring completely people who don't fully understand your situation (even if they think they do). Then do what you need to with your dog and your life. That's my advice. Don't look back - it's not worth it, and you and only you can really decide what you need.

Hey Steve- welcome to an online, public, dog forum in which Hedwig has made his/her issues known. Just because we haven't posted all of our issues -past or present- don't think we've not ever been in the OP's shoes in one way or another.

 

[Labra]

i would never have kids as i would kill them pure and simple. thats why i cant stick aroundn when my sister moves back as im too much of a danger.

Have you considered therapy or counselling? if you consider yourself to be a "danger" around children you may be in need of some serious help.

You feed your dog raw? how much does this cost you per week? far more than kibble I can imagine. Put the dog on an inexpensive kibble. It won't hurt until you get your finances in check.

Can I ask how old you are?

Can I also ask what problems you have with Bruno (aggression or otherwise) and how it impacts your life?

 

[Fruit bat]

I wasn't thinking about him getting hurt, I was thinking about what he might do to somebody else without behavior training. If I got on your nerves, then I have achieved something here. I think you need to put more thought into how to deal with this dog because I don't believe you will be able to place him in the condition you have described.

Did he turn out to be temporary? What I mean here, is you cannot depend on others as a method of planning a future, your security or the safety of the loved ones you accepted responsibility for. As you can see, that doesn't always work out. You boyfriend is gone, but your dog is still with you.

As a side issue, I am very interested as to why you think this is so

The third part of your quote is what I found to be very disturbing. I think the dog is better off rehomed.

 

[noludoru]

BP, post 71 is exactly what I was going to jump in and say. Except you said it better, as always. This thread is about rehoming Bruno, not any other members on this forum or different situations.

I also think it highly disturbing you think you would 'pure and simply' kill a child...

 

[hedwig]

my child hood was very disturbing, involving rape sexaul abuse n physycal abuse, if you must no.

my mum had a baby with the man resposible n i unintentionally linked that baby to him, but also every other baby i come into contact with.

i have had councilling but they stopped it??? dont no why?

im 19 and was with boyfriend for 2 years, on n off.

the only problem is with bruno is he snaps at strangers who try and TOUCH him partly because he is trying to protect me i think.

i get nervy by strangers as well as the above reasons as well as he does and because i expect him to snap, we could do with a class together lol.

me n bruno's relationship is very strong n i understand how he feels.

im not as insecure as i sound i swear! i have ruled out rehoming as a way out,
fostering maby but i will march on n bear it whilst looking for a better job, i have to.

we can manage as we are, we have done for 6 monthes but there you go

 

[Boemy]

I agree with the person who said to switch to a cheap kibble. You don't have Costco in the UK, do you? I just bought a 20 lb bag of their brand of dog food for $13 and it actually has good ingredients (no filler, first ingredients real chicken, etc.) But even a "crap" kibble will not kill your dog. My previous dog lived on Pedigree for fourteen years (because I didn't know any better at the time) and never had health problems except arthritis when she got very old.

 

[sparks19]

Frankly, I think it's a kindness and a sacrifice to give up a dog to someone who can take better care of him and who isn't so stressed out. The dog will adjust in no time as long as it's a good home with loving people. It's too bad things weren't thought out thoroughly before getting the dog but situations change that most people don't have clairvoyant abilities for. Maybe when you're more settled and have a more stable life style, you can re-think getting another dog. But I'd put that off for quite some time until you're sure you can support it for it's lifetime.

Good post. I agree.

YOu guys are so darn contradicting sometimes.....

Someone comes on and says their dog is in need of major surgery and they can't afford the thousands and thousands of dollars for it.... so what are they told? "YOu should give that dog to someone who can afford it" NOW we have someone who is admitting they cannot afford this kind of thing to come up (bad decision or bad luck with a change of circumstance whatever it is) and wants to find the dog a GOOD home (not just dropping it at a shelter) before something like that happens.... and now we are telling them to keep the dog and suck it up? What do you people want? if Hedwig comes back and says "My dog needs surgery and I can't afford it." YOu will all jump on the bandwagon saying they should have given him to a better family. YOu people can't have it both ways.

I'm sorry. I know everyone here loves their dogs and no one likes to see a dog stuck in a crummy situation and made "disposable" but if you can't afford to provide your dog with the nessecities WHY oh WHY is it wrong to find a GOOD home that CAN give the dog all these things rather than force the dog to live somewhere that it might not get a good meal ALL the time? The dog can't choose and if it can get a better life elsewhere WHY wouldn't you give the dog the opportunity for that?

We all love dogs and I understand that some of you are upset that another dog was purchased without the proper forethought (although who really thinks ahead that their long term commited relationship is going to suddenly end ) But for GOD sakes.... what's done is done.... GIVE THIS DOG HELP. That is what they are asking for.... you should be thankful they are asking for help and not just dumping the dog. This situation could be much worse.... and it will get worse if you guys don't get off your high horses and offer some advice rather than just telling this person how stupid they are. They are trying to do the best for the dog whether you agree with them or not.... GIVE advice. Your attitudes are not helping the dog what so ever and that is REALLY what this is about.... do what is best for the dog. IMO, staying with Hedwig who cannot provide the proper care is NOT what is best for the dog. This dog SHOULD be rehomed.... and in any other situation you would all be saying the same thing. If you wnt to be P.O.'d with Hedwig than do so .... but it's not helping the dogs situation what so ever. Why are we promoting keeping a dog you admit you can't care for. You would all be FURIOUS if Hedwig came here and said she was keeping the dog even though she can't provide food, training or vet care for him and no one could change her mind. I have seen many times people suggest a rehoming when the proper care couldn't be provided.

 

[Labra]

What jobs are you working? even places such as supermarkets offer a good standard of pay nowdays. Or even temporary work - office admin, data entry clerk, etc. Neither require much experience and from the research I have just done, the yearly wage of an average administrator in the UK is around 13,000-15,000 pounds.

the only problem is with bruno is he snaps at strangers who try and TOUCH him partly because he is trying to protect me i think.

He is not trying to protect you. Although obviously I can't comment for sure without seeing the dog in person I suspect that Bruno is displaying a fear/anxiety based responce. Aggression can never be 'cured' but it most certainly can be worked upon.

Have you tried implementing any behavioral techniques to work on his fear?

 

[Vivien]

Thanks Sparks, you took the words out of my mouth. I almost left again but this time for good.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

Good post. I agree.

YOu guys are so darn contradicting sometimes.....

Someone comes on and says their dog is in need of major surgery and they can't afford the thousands and thousands of dollars for it.... so what are they told? "YOu should give that dog to someone who can afford it" NOW we have someone who is admitting they cannot afford this kind of thing to come up (bad decision or bad luck with a change of circumstance whatever it is) and wants to find the dog a GOOD home (not just dropping it at a shelter) before something like that happens.... and now we are telling them to keep the dog and suck it up? What do you people want? if Hedwig comes back and says "My dog needs surgery and I can't afford it." YOu will all jump on the bandwagon saying they should have given him to a better family. YOu people can't have it both ways.

I'm sorry. I know everyone here loves their dogs and no one likes to see a dog stuck in a crummy situation and made "disposable" but if you can't afford to provide your dog with the nessecities WHY oh WHY is it wrong to find a GOOD home that CAN give the dog all these things rather than force the dog to live somewhere that it might not get a good meal ALL the time? The dog can't choose and if it can get a better life elsewhere WHY wouldn't you give the dog the opportunity for that?

We all love dogs and I understand that some of you are upset that another dog was purchased without the proper forethought (although who really thinks ahead that their long term commited relationship is going to suddenly end ) But for GOD sakes.... what's done is done.... GIVE THIS DOG HELP. That is what they are asking for.... you should be thankful they are asking for help and not just dumping the dog. This situation could be much worse.... and it will get worse if you guys don't get off your high horses and offer some advice rather than just telling this person how stupid they are. They are trying to do the best for the dog whether you agree with them or not.... GIVE advice. Your attitudes are not helping the dog what so ever and that is REALLY what this is about.... do what is best for the dog. IMO, staying with Hedwig who cannot provide the proper care is NOT what is best for the dog. This dog SHOULD be rehomed.... and in any other situation you would all be saying the same thing. If you wnt to be P.O.'d with Hedwig than do so .... but it's not helping the dogs situation what so ever. Why are we promoting keeping a dog you admit you can't care for. You would all be FURIOUS if Hedwig came here and said she was keeping the dog even though she can't provide food, training or vet care for him and no one could change her mind. I have seen many times people suggest a rehoming when the proper care couldn't be provided.

Hope you feel better.

I remember people being pretty **** upset about the fact that someone couldn't pay for the surgery that their dog needed since it was a young puppy. Yes, I remember all too well. I remember that members came together and did their best to help that poor dog as well.

The thing I don't get is, we have trainers, vet's, dog lovers all types on this forum. People come here to get help and for the most part they get help. So when a member that is somewhat established decides to re-home a dog that can certainly be helped (aggression problems? that dog needs help pronto) by some advice here. The person can't afford the dog anymore. They must not be willing to make any sacrifices. But fine, we have yet another dog that needs to be disposed of because someone didn't take their responsibility serious enough. I am not going to coddle and lend a shoulder. Instead of moping on the board, a reputable rescue should be found in assurance that the dog will receive the help it needs and not be put down due to it's aggression. The owner can't even do that.

And no, its obvious the dog should not stay with it's owner- they have made it clear that they are not cut out for dog/kid/anything ownership right now. Doesn't mean I'm going to sit around and say poor you when, as I said before, it's always the dog that suffers. ALWAYS.