Anyone ever heard of this mutt....im sorry designer dog :/

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You guys are mixing up everything.

I have a mutt, and I love him just as much as my purebred. What we're saying is that BREEDING mutts is wrong, not that mutts are. It's NOT the same at all! Furthermore, I'm sure we would all support breeding mutts in a perfect world where lots of them didn't already need homes. But it's not the case, just the rescue I got my mutt from (at 8 weeks) always have over 15 mutt puppies for adoption... and they're far from being the only ones. So why add more?

And please, we all know that if people hadn't bred mutts in the past we wouldn't have so many breeds now. The difference is that at the time people bred with the goal of making a breed that would have some particularities, whereas now 99% of the breeders who breed mutts do it just to make money. I'm really tired of hearing the same argument over and over, when it's totally obvious that all the doodles and other poos are only bred because they're popular and people want to make money out of them. The only attempt at making a breed I've seen is in Australia with labradoodles, and so far it hasn't been succesful. So please just get informed before you give an inaccurate argument...
 
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sorry guys but in my experence new members who dont post intros and go straight into these sort of posts are only here for one thing
 

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Congratulations Gallien Jacks you really do know how to generalise with the best of them. Have you even read my other posts? They're really controversial such terrible things as what's your favourite breed.

I posted because this is a topic that has been getting on my nerves when reading this forum. People are far too quick to just go off on bashing people breeding crosses.

As to people not trying to better the breed these days by using crosses, how do you explain short tailed boxers? This was bringing corgi blood into boxer lines. Or an even more recent example http://www.australianbulldogs.com/ this is a program to breed a traditional looking bulldog without the medical complaints of a normal english bulldog. Yes they do this by cross breeding dogs.

I am not in any way saying that people making money out of pumping out rubbish poodle crosses is right, in fact I think you'll find I said that in the previous post. What I am saying is that the behaviour of the people on this forum going on about cross breeding is just about as useful as all of the doodle breeders.
 

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The boxer program was for a reason,not just neely willy mix breeding:rolleyes:
 

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Congratulations Gallien Jacks you really do know how to generalise with the best of them. Have you even read my other posts? They're really controversial such terrible things as what's your favourite breed.

I posted because this is a topic that has been getting on my nerves when reading this forum. People are far too quick to just go off on bashing people breeding crosses.

As to people not trying to better the breed these days by using crosses, how do you explain short tailed boxers? This was bringing corgi blood into boxer lines. Or an even more recent example http://www.australianbulldogs.com/ this is a program to breed a traditional looking bulldog without the medical complaints of a normal english bulldog. Yes they do this by cross breeding dogs.

I am not in any way saying that people making money out of pumping out rubbish poodle crosses is right, in fact I think you'll find I said that in the previous post. What I am saying is that the behaviour of the people on this forum going on about cross breeding is just about as useful as all of the doodle breeders.
Your dancing around what we're really talking about here. Im not talking about Australian Bulldogs because yes that makes sense because it is for the good of the dogs health.

BUT thats not what we're talking about here we're talking about people breeding these so called "designer dogs" who do more then most come up with health problems.

Ok quick question to you just to Josh
Do you agree with breeding "Designer Dogs"? (im not saying you do or don't im just asking).
 

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Ok quick question to you just to Josh
Do you agree with breeding "Designer Dogs"? (im not saying you do or don't im just asking).
Seriously? Have you read anything that I have posted in this thread?

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I don't think people should be randomly breeding anything in order to make money but I also don't think people should take this up as some kind of jihad, there is a hell of a lot more important things you could dedicate your time to.
Joshstix said:
I am not in any way saying that people making money out of pumping out rubbish poodle crosses is right, in fact I think you'll find I said that in the previous post. What I am saying is that the behaviour of the people on this forum going on about cross breeding is just about as useful as all of the doodle breeders.
Please, I have shown the respect to read what others have had to say rather than just spouting off on my chosen line of argument, if others could do the same that would be great.
 

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Seriously? Have you read anything that I have posted in this thread?





Please, I have shown the respect to read what others have had to say rather than just spouting off on my chosen line of argument, if others could do the same that would be great.
Well I actually have already read those but i was asking the question for others so they could see that simply No you didn't or yes you did. I was not rude to you but you have to me and you havent read any of my posts im sure as this is the first time ou have replied to me when I have already adressed you. I was going to try and be nice but hell you've gone and ruined that. :D
 

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Wow

You people on this forum are sure against mutts arnt you....yes there is alot of cross breeding going on right now but alot of it is to get these little dogs, it probably is just a trend, but it seems everyone wants these little dogs and Im sure that everyone that ends up getting one will love them to death, they wont end up in the pound. Most of the dogs in the pound are the big breeds purebreed and mutts, usually because they were cute when they were little but they got so big or because of behaviour problems, very few small dogs end up in the pound.

Mutts have there problems but so do purebreed dogs, you get what you get, just like humans. Alot of the people on this forum dont really have a real good argument on not getting a mixed breed other than there are alot of dogs in the pound, I looked in the pound and never have I found what I was looking for. I guess when my daughter decides to have a child I should tell her she shouldnt have one because there are alot of children in the world to be adopted, it is really the same thing. There are alot of people that shouldnt have dogs and that is why they end up in the pound, but mixed breeds have been around as long as I can remember, and have made excellent pets so why do you people come down on them so much.
 

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You people on this forum are sure against mutts arnt you....yes there is alot of cross breeding going on right now but alot of it is to get these little dogs, it probably is just a trend, but it seems everyone wants these little dogs and Im sure that everyone that ends up getting one will love them to death, they wont end up in the pound. Most of the dogs in the pound are the big breeds purebreed and mutts, usually because they were cute when they were little but they got so big or because of behaviour problems, very few small dogs end up in the pound.

Mutts have there problems but so do purebreed dogs, you get what you get, just like humans. Alot of the people on this forum dont really have a real good argument on not getting a mixed breed other than there are alot of dogs in the pound, I looked in the pound and never have I found what I was looking for. I guess when my daughter decides to have a child I should tell her she shouldnt have one because there are alot of children in the world to be adopted, it is really the same thing. There are alot of people that shouldnt have dogs and that is why they end up in the pound, but mixed breeds have been around as long as I can remember, and have made excellent pets so why do you people come down on them so much.
What world do you live in? The only reason we don't see small dogs in the pound more is because they get adopted first, and the reason there are less of them is because, technically, it's a bit harder for them to breed by accident than other breeds. That people who buy those mutts don't abandon them is the most inaccurate assumption I have seen on these forums. Have you looked at www.petfinder.com lately? Now tell us again that no small dogs end up in the pound :rolleyes: Also, if you're going to spend $600 in a dog anyway (the minimum responsible breeders usually charge), why not get a purebred dog from a responsible breeder? There is no excuse to support irresponsible breeding, and I have yet to see a responsible mutt breeder.

Also, our arguments against buying a mixbreed from a breeder are more than just because so many dogs are in the pound though, it's also because 90% of the breeders that make them don't do any health testing, and it's not right to encourage such irresponsible breeding. I've seriously never seen any doodle or poo breeder that did OFA, eye or temperament testing etc.

About the comparison with children, seriously, do people really think before they post stupid arguments? I assume you just have no clue of how harder it is to adopt an older child than it is to adopt an adult dog, because those children often have lots of emotional disorders. Or how long and expensive the process is to adopt a newborn (I know, I'm doing it). Please, don't use exemples you don't have a clue about.

And again, we have nothing against mutts, and lots of us have them. It's breeding them without any health or temparement testing and for money that bothers us.

But I guess I'm just wasting my time because people can't read it seems.
 
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this needs to be closed i feel sorry for the orignater, it just seems a bunch of people who wish for a fight have posted, and has gone way off topic!
 

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Madaline said:
You people on this forum are sure against mutts arnt you....yes there is alot of cross breeding going on right now but alot of it is to get these little dogs, it probably is just a trend, but it seems everyone wants these little dogs and Im sure that everyone that ends up getting one will love them to death, they wont end up in the pound. Most of the dogs in the pound are the big breeds purebreed and mutts, usually because they were cute when they were little but they got so big or because of behaviour problems, very few small dogs end up in the pound.

Mutts have there problems but so do purebreed dogs, you get what you get, just like humans. Alot of the people on this forum dont really have a real good argument on not getting a mixed breed other than there are alot of dogs in the pound, I looked in the pound and never have I found what I was looking for. I guess when my daughter decides to have a child I should tell her she shouldnt have one because there are alot of children in the world to be adopted, it is really the same thing. There are alot of people that shouldnt have dogs and that is why they end up in the pound, but mixed breeds have been around as long as I can remember, and have made excellent pets so why do you people come down on them so much.
You obviousely havent read all the posts have you? I LOVE mutts I own one! But purposely breeding them is wrong.
 

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this needs to be closed i feel sorry for the orignater, it just seems a bunch of people who wish for a fight have posted, and has gone way off topic!
It is hard for me because I pretty much just came here to vent about my neighbors being byb and breeding these "designer dogs". I wasent on here to ask wether anyone agreed with breeding mutts or not. I just asked if you have heard of these new "designer dog" mix breeds. But like you said a couple people who just wanted to fight came and turned my topic into this big debate. I don't really want it closed because I would like to get back to my general topic but who knows if that could happen. You can't even try and be nice to these people because they will just bite your head off.

I can tell you one thing im getting sick of being told that I hate mutts :rolleyes: .
 
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Every single dog deserves a good responsible loving home for it's lifetime, no matter what it's pedigree may or may not be.

PURPOSELY creating mixed breeds and selling them for high prices as designer dogs in the pet trade is a slimey irresponsible ignorant malicious thing to do.

Period.
 

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I don't really want it closed because I would like to get back to my general topic but who knows if that could happen.
Actually I never noticed these designer breeds. I always just thought they were mutts. It wasn't until I joined this forum I heard about the byb breeders selling designer breeds.I still don't understand why someone would pay all that money for a mutt. I have two mutts from rescue, I wasn't looking for a certain breed when I got either one of them. I was just looking for a loving "DOG", regardless of breed.
 
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yes if peopel just stoped buying those so called designer breeds then they wouldnt be bred, how any breeder of these dogs can say they dont do it for money is a liar!
 

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Lets get the record straight first..... I don't support BYB at all, nor do I support those who breed animals without the proper knowledge of doing so.

That's the problem with most of you....always jumping the gun at those you don't know or have never met..... and for you to say im uneducated at breeding?.... I'm a vet and can probably tell you more than you ever wanted to know about dogs and breeding.
Wow I will say this if youre a vet, then you are not a very good one. #1 jumping in here and calling people nazi's because of what they believe in, well let me see. You are a vet so you are in the business of caring for the welfare of your animals that are in your care but from some of your posts let me see if I can line them all up

#1 It should be poor neighboor .... she is being bashed on the internet by a bunch of strangers who don't even have a clue about her. For all we know, she is probably a really good, caring breeder.

Well now, she isnt a good caring breeder. These designer breeds are bred for one reason and one reason only, for the almight dollar. There is not one ounce of scientific proof that these so called designer breeds are bred for medical reasons, health reasons etc

#2Who cares if she is mix breeding? If she is giving them the right care, and they are going to good homes, then why does it matter?

I'm sure you have mixed genes as well..... so you must be a mutt right?

Well now I have mixed genes...Am I a mutt, hell no, but I do know that most of these animals that go to good homes as you put it end up in the shelter because the status symbol lost its appeal

#3 I think you're a NAZI .... must be those German genes in you.. MUTT!

This right here.....Well excuse me but vet or not vet (and I really dont think you are one)

#4 Lets get the record straight first..... I don't support BYB at all, nor do I support those who breed animals without the proper knowledge of doing so.

That's the problem with most of you....always jumping the gun at those you don't know or have never met..... and for you to say im uneducated at breeding?.... I'm a vet and can probably tell you more than you ever wanted to know about dogs and breeding

This statement here says it all, you do support BYB if you stand on the side of the breeder who is taking well respected breeds and mixing them, for what purpose??? Well there isnt really any one except for once again $$$$$$$ A Vet you say, once again Hahahahahahahahaha.

#5 If you guys were true dog enthusiast, you would like and love all breeds whether pure or mixed.

Im just tired of all the bashing of mixed breeds.....as if they were some sort of evil dogs.

Obviously you dont know the people here on this forum very well. You only joined on the 27th which was 1 day ago. There are many people here who have mixed breeds who love their animals like they were their children and some are their children. How dare you.....you have no right to invade this site and strt accusations. The folks here are here for one reason the love of the animal and yes mixed breeding on purpose, irresponsible breeding, BYB and those who only want to make a $$$ irrate alot of people, including me. This is a very close knit family here so back off!!!!!!!!!

To sum it up, we dont bash mixed mutts, we dont bash those who breed appropriately we dont bash period, we do have opinions and they are pointed out. Young kids have no business breeding their dog muffy because the puppies would be pretty. The neighbor has no right breeding their dog to make an extra buck-ever thought about the stress it puts on the mother? Breeders who breed and know what they are doing, are equipped and setup for breeding great, they know what they are doing. DESIGNER DOGS ??? what is the reason for that, so you can invent a new looking animal. No one knows gentically what could or would happen with genes crossed. Now thats food for thought
 
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I'm in Southern California ..... you won't find a "designer breed" in any kennel here, but there are tons of pure breds looking for a good home.

I think everybody here agrees they dislike BYB who don't have the proper knowledge to breed dogs..... BUT - I have no issues with BYB who breed designer dogs and are knowledgeable to do so.... there is a demand for them, they are going to good homes. I have no issue with that at all.

The only issue I have is the person who started this thread stating he had a brief conversation with his neighboor and didnt know her at all.... and he already assumed she was clueless on breeding crosses. Stop jumping the gun and thinking every cross-breeder is scum.
 

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