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I get compliments all the time about how nice and polite I am with the people who purchase my puppies. And I have seen this as well. That some breeders do come off rude and cold. I am proud to say that I am tough about who I choose to allow to have one of my puppies. But I also am friendly and never speak to people like they are dumb.

Has anyone else ever had a run with a rude breeder?
 

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Not a run in - and that was the problem, LOL.
When I was looking for a sheltie breeder, I asked my vet for references. They gave me one, and I called the lady three times and left her three messages explaining I got her number from the vet, was interested in a sheltie puppy, and would love to talk to her...
and she never called me back. Never. I still can't figure out why she wouldn't have called me back to at least TALK to me!
 
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Honestly, I think some people consider it rudeness to ask too many questions, which is why they have a problem with good breeders. As far as not calling back or returning emails, some breeders are just so swamped with inquiries that they don't have time. I can't say that I've ever met a rude breeder, but I have met breeders that are very picky. In fact, I'm good friends with one of those breeders, and have 3 dogs from him. :)
 

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I've met some breeders who are high-and-mighty. A little too caught up in their success and good quality dogs to be on the lookout for the best interest of the breed. And the best interest of the breed has just as much to do with pet owners looking to buy a puppy, as show owners and other breeders. If a pet owner is too put off by a good breeder acting like a jerk, then they're not going to go to another good breeder. They'll probably go to a BYB, who will be nice and tell them everything they want to hear.

I've had a run-in with an EXTREMELY rude Papillon breeder and it deterred me from ever wanting to purchase another Papillon. I was just 14 when I contacted her, and instead of realizing I was misinformed and trying to educate me, she sent me what is, to this day, one of the rudest emails I've ever recieved. Way to help your breed! :rolleyes:

I think it is very important to be personable, even to the potential buyers that aren't the right match for your puppies or your breed as a whole.
 

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I hope I wasn't rude , but I turned down many who wanted stud service or a pup I didn't feel that they were ready for . Most listened to me and came back when they had corrected to agree with my stipulations . I turned down one twice ..... thought things were AOK and sold ...... my wrong , but 3 years later she asked me to rehome and I had my Chip !
 

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We had a really really rude run in with one specific papillon breeder AFTER we'd already had a papillon for over two years and were looking for another. Long story but eventually this same breeder pulled her dog out of a show and cost Beau two major wins his first weekend out. lol
 

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Never had to meet a breeder to get a dog. I had a friend who bred Bouviers though. She was lovely unless it came to her dogs. Then she was.... well you get the idea.
 

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I've met some breeders who are high-and-mighty. A little too caught up in their success and good quality dogs to be on the lookout for the best interest of the breed. And the best interest of the breed has just as much to do with pet owners looking to buy a puppy, as show owners and other breeders. If a pet owner is too put off by a good breeder acting like a jerk, then they're not going to go to another good breeder. They'll probably go to a BYB, who will be nice and tell them everything they want to hear.

I've had a run-in with an EXTREMELY rude Papillon breeder and it deterred me from ever wanting to purchase another Papillon. I was just 14 when I contacted her, and instead of realizing I was misinformed and trying to educate me, she sent me what is, to this day, one of the rudest emails I've ever recieved. Way to help your breed! :rolleyes:

I think it is very important to be personable, even to the potential buyers that aren't the right match for your puppies or your breed as a whole.
I totally agree with everything you have said.

I can't tell you how many emails I have gotten from misinformed people looking for puppies, wanting me to use their stud :)rolleyes:), wanting to buy littermates etc. I jump at the chance to NICELY explain things to them. My email is about a page long when I am finished, but what good have I done for my breed if I just let them go on their way without educating them? I have also always been open to talking to interested spectators at the shows. Many show people think that just because they show dogs that somehow that qualifies them a spot on a pedestal and they can't possibly stoop so low as to talk to "pet" owners. The whole purpose of breeding should be about preservation, improvement and education. Not all puppies in litters are show prospects. The pet people are just as important as the show people!
 

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In my search for the perfect Toller breeder, I ran into many who were high-and-mighty, just as RD described. I was disappointed many times as those breeders who were like that and deemed me unworthy of ever being a Toller owner, had just the kind of dogs temperament wise that I'd been wanting for years. Because of them, I ended up going with somebody who I thought was ok... not my first choice, but she was friendly and knowledgeable, and felt I'd make a good Toller home at least.
 
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I do get rude when they ask me to stud out my world champion, and then scream that why bother titling the dog unless you want to make money studding?

Most all the rest I ask have you read the 1o reasons not to own one? by me
Most do and this helps cut down on people who are window shopping.
 

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I was disappointed many times as those breeders who were like that and deemed me unworthy of ever being a Toller owner, had just the kind of dogs temperament wise that I'd been wanting for years. .
Which is sad, because you obviously weren't going to give up and find a different breed. Luckily you're smart and went to another responsible breeder, but for all they knew you could've gone to a BYB after that quick dismissal from the responsible breeders.

I've been there. :) And I really wish that instead of being rude and telling me I'm unworthy of owning one of their dogs, or unworthy of the breed, that the breeders who *don't* think I'm a good match for their breed should explain why. I know, it takes a long time, but just breeding nice dogs is only a fraction of what you can do to help your breed... Putting effort into educating people, even people who you don't want in your breed, makes a huge difference and if you can sway one potential owner from buying from a BYB or pet store, you've done a good deed for your breed. IMO

I'd like my next dog to be a Doberman, and I'm fully expecting to be turned down a lot in my search for the right breeder. I find that if you've never owned a dog of their breed, breeders are extremely reluctant right off the bat, and usually will hesitate to place a pup with you. Which stings a little, because how else are people supposed to get started in the breed, if rescue isn't an option and ethics prevent us from buying from bad breeders?

I can absolutely see from the breeder's standpoint that not all pet owners are ones that they want their puppies to live with, but I also think it's so important for them to educate even those that they turn down, or give them suggestions on what they could do to "qualify" for owning a puppy at a later date.

I dunno. I just hate seeing people soured on good breeders and rescues, and buying from BYBs and mills instead... The breeder community needs to be doing more to reach out to these average joe pet owners, because THESE are the people who have the ability to affect the quality of the breed by choosing who to support - the responsible breeders, or the unscrupulous ones.
 

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Sadly, yes. I met several breeders from the local kennel club, and they were the rudest, most snobbish people I've ever met.

One of them asked if I had a dog. I said yes. She asked what kind, and I said a blackmouth cur. The woman flat-out rolled her eyes and told me, "Oh, if it's not an AKC breed, then I don't care." :yikes:

Another woman was on a tirade about the "pathetic" dogs in this town ("Nothing but pit bulls and chihuahuas!"), and that if she had her way, all pit bulls would be killed.

I also met a border collie breeder who did AKC obedience while I was walking Zeus at a local park. When I said Zeus was a blackmouth cur, and I was doing obedience training with him, she turned up her nose at him and said "Oh, a hound breed. Don't waste your time."

Needless to say, I will not be supporting the local kennel club anytime soon.
 

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Sadly, yes. I met several breeders from the local kennel club, and they were the rudest, most snobbish people I've ever met.

One of them asked if I had a dog. I said yes. She asked what kind, and I said a blackmouth cur. The woman flat-out rolled her eyes and told me, "Oh, if it's not an AKC breed, then I don't care." :yikes:

Another woman was on a tirade about the "pathetic" dogs in this town ("Nothing but pit bulls and chihuahuas!"), and that if she had her way, all pit bulls would be killed.

I also met a border collie breeder who did AKC obedience while I was walking Zeus at a local park. When I said Zeus was a blackmouth cur, and I was doing obedience training with him, she turned up her nose at him and said "Oh, a hound breed. Don't waste your time."

Needless to say, I will not be supporting the local kennel club anytime soon.
Gawd!!! Some people are such losers, I swear, lol! I totally know the type you are talking about and I laugh at them on a regular basis.:p
 

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Sadly, yes. I met several breeders from the local kennel club, and they were the rudest, most snobbish people I've ever met.

One of them asked if I had a dog. I said yes. She asked what kind, and I said a blackmouth cur. The woman flat-out rolled her eyes and told me, "Oh, if it's not an AKC breed, then I don't care." :yikes:

Another woman was on a tirade about the "pathetic" dogs in this town ("Nothing but pit bulls and chihuahuas!"), and that if she had her way, all pit bulls would be killed.

I also met a border collie breeder who did AKC obedience while I was walking Zeus at a local park. When I said Zeus was a blackmouth cur, and I was doing obedience training with him, she turned up her nose at him and said "Oh, a hound breed. Don't waste your time."

Needless to say, I will not be supporting the local kennel club anytime soon.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!:yikes:

I'd probably be drooling if I met Zeus. I've never met a Blackmouth Cur. I'd feel honored (which is kind of dorky but I always get this weird feeling when I meet a breed I never have before).

I'm a little frightened to ever get a dog from a breeder now.
 

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Jeannine (Planet Molosser) lies - she doesn't even remotely just tell you to read her webpage; she loves to talk about the breed, in fact when I first telephoned her about the Central Asian Shepherd (after talking to a condescending Russian man who told me I was "not enough Russian, too much woman" to own these "furocious" [sic] dogs", yah right!), Jeannine talked to me for 3 straight hours; I just wandered around the room (best cleaning I've ever got done) listening to the history of the breed, answering questions, and getting invited to the next show to see her dogs. When I went to the show (which she was show secretary of) when I introduced myself; she promptly invited me to her house to meet her gorgeous dogs in the 2 hours she had between the end of the show and looking after the show judge. She has always had the best interests of the breed at heart; and always says so; granted as some people have noticed with breeders they contact; she doesn't mince words; but with a large potentially aggressive breed; she needs to separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. Her opinionated ways do not sit well with other breeders who are not so stringent in their breeding methods; but she is held in high estimation by performance dog breeders/owners/handlers in other venues.
I would always give a second chance to someone who didn't get back to me; but I think that if you get no response from someone after 2 tries, perhaps these people aren't really in the game to sell you a pup; and maybe when you get one of their pups; they will have less time than ever to help you with your dog.

That's one thing that sold me on getting a FoxFire central asian; Jeannine answered a phone call while I was there and had a 35 minute conversation (i was fine - i was playing with puppies) with an individual who was having problems with a central asian not of her breeding; and she was helping the person deal with the issue.

Breeders who love their breed and are in it for the improvement and welfare of the breed; not just their individual lines; those are the people I would consider getting a dog from. And I will always look for a recommendation from someone in the dog game; but not necessarily in that breed - there is less politics involved.
 

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I have talked to... at least 15 Cardigan breeders. I have literally lost count! x3 Luckily, every single one of them was shockingly nice and helpful.

When I was 13, I used to visit neighbors who bred/breed amazing GSDs. I literally harassed them with e-mails and calls, and they always opened their doors to me, and were always happy to let me play with their dogs or watch them train.

The only rude breeders I have encountered were BYBs, who I called on behalf of friends/relatives... because most of them (well, the smart ones) come to me for breeder approval! The breeders were very nice at first, but got increasingly rude and agitated when I inquired about health testing, showing, proving their dogs in any way, guarantees, etc. C; I wonder why?
 

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ive personally run into some realy nasty people...proud to say most of them were byb's not worth the effort...
people without answeres on their dogs health testing tend to get snippy when you ask them of OFA scores lol

im lucky ive never met a rude GOOD breeder.

i personally have been kinda nasty myself upon occasion, but only to the people that aproach me telling me i NEED to let them breed their *insert small dog* with my 3lb chihuahua simply because "it would be cute" to those people i quite quickly tell them to find a new money making scheme...

otherwise i do ask interested parties LOTS of questions (and answer as many as thye hav) but i make it very clear, any puppy from me is my baby and i need to be certain before sending them to a new home...i have had to get strong with the occasional person who is NOT suited for the breed but insisted they wanted one (like the woman buying one for her 17 yr old heading off to college because it would be a cool graduation gift and she "wanted one just like that blodn girls one on legally blond, she could take her to classes and parties and stuff it would be realy cute!" i told her about the breed and explained why that would be a bad idea and she kept offering me more and more money, told her i was sorry but this breed despite popular media belif is not suited to such a lifestyle (they are after all dogs) and she got very upset, telling me "well if it didnt work out shed find the dog a new home...i had to hang up, id been trying for 2 hours...


i have had some run ins with breed and show snobs though!
 

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I have never had a breeder be rude to me but when speaking to breeders there were so many that bad mouthed other breeders.That was a turn off for me.
 

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I get compliments all the time about how nice and polite I am with the people who purchase my puppies. And I have seen this as well. That some breeders do come off rude and cold. I am proud to say that I am tough about who I choose to allow to have one of my puppies. But I also am friendly and never speak to people like they are dumb.

Has anyone else ever had a run with a rude breeder?
Every Alaskan Klee Kai breeder I've ever spoken/emailed with was super rude.
 

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I called a Rhodesian Ridgeback breeder two or three years ago...I was talking about the rescue I worked with, what sort of training I had done, what breeds of dogs I had had in the past...and she was really short, and a little rude and standoffish...

And then I mentioned who my dad was, some of the lines that we had had, and how I had showed dogs through their championships and she became sweet as sugar... :rolleyes:

-Rosefern
 

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