I have 2 female cane corsos. 8 months and15 months, anyway when playing one or the other will start humping the other. is this a dominent thing? I have a male rott,4 years,no problem, but the girls when playing sometimes seem to get nasty. could this turn into a problem? would like to nip it in the bud before. any suggestions? thanks.
2 females?
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Running 2 corso bitches together is always a disaster waiting to happen, IMO.
They are much like a Rottweiler when it comes to other adults of the same size and sex.
Keep a careful eye on it, and be aware that it can at any time erupt into a life or death struggle, and I am not exaggerating.
I have repeatedly schooled and warned my husband about my 2 older bitches. Not to EVER allow them out in the yard together unsupervised. Not to EVER wade into a fight without a weapon, and to use whatever means is necessary, bar none, to stop a fight if one ever happens.
Talk to those more experienced in your breed, they can give you good information.
They are much like a Rottweiler when it comes to other adults of the same size and sex.
Keep a careful eye on it, and be aware that it can at any time erupt into a life or death struggle, and I am not exaggerating.
I have repeatedly schooled and warned my husband about my 2 older bitches. Not to EVER allow them out in the yard together unsupervised. Not to EVER wade into a fight without a weapon, and to use whatever means is necessary, bar none, to stop a fight if one ever happens.
Talk to those more experienced in your breed, they can give you good information.
I have spoken to my breeder, she did not think yhere would be a problem. they are like best freinds together,but sometimes it seems like a power struggle?I never let all 3 of my dogs alone together, nothing has ever happend but you never know. the 14 month is submisive, the 8 month seems pretty domminent. do you think they will work this out? I have broken up 1 dog fight between my rott and hubbys chow. scared the crap out of me. Can females be as bad?
The humping sounds like one is trying to exert their dominence over the other. I too would use caution. They are both young right now, but things can change as they both mature. I would agree that it's better to be safe than sorry. I have 2 females, different breeds, that were fine at first but can no longer be together. Each female can be alone with the male and play fine. My husband has been able to have all 3 together, but as the younger female is maturing, this is now not possible. I know I would love them all to get along and play together without a problem, but at this point, I would rather have 3 healthy, happy dogs than risk injury.
There are some people who keep all their dogs together and never have a problem, some that don't have a problem till later one, and some have problems all the time. I think each situation is individual, but if you decide to keep them together, you have to keep in the back of your mind that one day you may not like what happens.
If your male gets along with both females, maybe do what I do and they him play with each one individually.
There are some people who keep all their dogs together and never have a problem, some that don't have a problem till later one, and some have problems all the time. I think each situation is individual, but if you decide to keep them together, you have to keep in the back of your mind that one day you may not like what happens.
If your male gets along with both females, maybe do what I do and they him play with each one individually.
Shiva tries that with Kharma. Up until just recently, Kharma took it with good grace and either rolled her eyes and walked away or just sat down. It is a dominance "thing," but since I am the Head Bitch I just lay down the law and tell Shiva to stop. That ends it. They've had the occasional sisterly scuffle (not littermates and Shiva's 7 months older), but they are always careful and don't actually bite each other - just quarrelling.
From what I've read and people I've talked with, Corsos are much closer to Filas in nature by far than they are to Rotties. Just keep an eye on them and make sure they know that you don't allow any nonsense.
From what I've read and people I've talked with, Corsos are much closer to Filas in nature by far than they are to Rotties. Just keep an eye on them and make sure they know that you don't allow any nonsense.
Thanks everyone for the advice. I will keep a close eye on them. I cant imagine having to keep them apart.when things do get too rough I say Enough and bella will stop right away and lay down at my feet, but Sophie, the younger one will want to keep going. Then I put sophie in her crate or om leash at my side. Is this correct or should I be doing something else?
The humping can be 1 of 2 things
Dominance display, of which if one is submissive there shouldnt be a problem as the other knows it place, however if it is a dominance struggle and there is not a clear dominant one I would keep a close eye on it.
Play, sometimes when some dogs play, they do this; if they seem fine and playing its not a problem, however you may want to supervise them as they play to make sure they dont get mad at each other.
I wouldnt automaticly assume this is a life or death situation, the only time a nasty fight will ensue is when there is no clear dominance or when there is a lack of a confident leader, pack dynamics are formed and the pecking order is respected if things are clear.
I would just reccomend you supervise
Dominance display, of which if one is submissive there shouldnt be a problem as the other knows it place, however if it is a dominance struggle and there is not a clear dominant one I would keep a close eye on it.
Play, sometimes when some dogs play, they do this; if they seem fine and playing its not a problem, however you may want to supervise them as they play to make sure they dont get mad at each other.
I wouldnt automaticly assume this is a life or death situation, the only time a nasty fight will ensue is when there is no clear dominance or when there is a lack of a confident leader, pack dynamics are formed and the pecking order is respected if things are clear.
I would just reccomend you supervise
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K9, in some of the high fight drive breeds like Corsos and Rotties, it can go from sugar to **** in the blink of an eye.
Example....
I had 2 bitches who had lived together without incident for 4 years, since the younger one came to me as a puppy. The younger bitch was 4, the older bitch was 8, and still in her prime, both physically and mentally.
One day I was out in the exercise yard with 4 dogs. These 2 bitches, a young (12 weeks) puppy bitch, unrelated to either bitch, and an adolescent male, 14 mos.
The 12 weeks puppy was climbing all over the older girl, playing goofy puppy play, while old girl grinned and grumbled and mouthed the puppy.
Out of the corner of my eye I see a blur, and before I can even BLINK, the young bitch has the other one by the throat. They are up on hind legs, ROARING at each other, and both are gripping the other.
I had raised both these dogs and both were VERY well trained. I would never have been convinced by anyone, and had stated many times before, that I most CERTAINLY could verbally stop a dog fight in my own dog yard among my pack because of my distinct alpha status.
Well, these 2 bitches had not read that book. I screamed at them, and I might as well have been on another planet. They were out to KILL each other. I was REALLY LUCKY, as the young bitch quickly tired, and released, circling looking for another grip.
I SCREAMED at my old bitch to down, THANK GOD she did, and I grabbed the young bitch from behind by both cheeks, pulled her up on her hind legs, with her back against my chest, and worked my way towards my kennel runs.
All the while, I am having to SCREAM at my old bitch to keep her off the bitch I have restrained and up on her hind legs, because the old gal wants to eviscerate her now that I have her restrained. I have blood all OVER my hands, and I can see it dripping off a huge wound in the older bitch's neck.
I FINALLY get the younger bitch in the kennel run, get the hose, and clean my hands. The younger bitch is unharmed.
The older bitch has several DEEP punture wounds, and one large tear in her neck. LUCKY the bitch only got skin and not vital tissues and blood veins. She has a split ear, a split tongue, and 2 more puncture wounds on her shoulder.
This all happened on a lovely spring day, while I was laughing at the other 2 bitches playing, and we were all ( or seemed to be) having a nice time out in the dog yard. It happened so fast I never saw it coming.
It may never happen to you, but if these were my bitches, once you start seeing serious play fighting, etc, (and you will ) I would keep them separated at all times when you are not supervising, for safety's sake, and discuss with ALL family members what to do if a fight ever happens.....
1) DO NOT wade in without a weapon of some sort to protect yourself. You WILL get bitten.
2) Keep things handy that you can break up a fight with. Forget water hoses. Hoe or shovel handle, or any appropriate sized piece of wood or other utensil handle that you can put between the dogs to break them up. Sometimes pepper spray works. I have instructed my husband to use ANY MEANS NECESSARY to stop it if a fight ever breaks out among the bitches here.
ANYONE with working dogs who is running 2 bitches together should have a basic understanding of what happens during a real dog fight, and some plan on how to stop one without getting severely injured.
JMO as always.
Example....
I had 2 bitches who had lived together without incident for 4 years, since the younger one came to me as a puppy. The younger bitch was 4, the older bitch was 8, and still in her prime, both physically and mentally.
One day I was out in the exercise yard with 4 dogs. These 2 bitches, a young (12 weeks) puppy bitch, unrelated to either bitch, and an adolescent male, 14 mos.
The 12 weeks puppy was climbing all over the older girl, playing goofy puppy play, while old girl grinned and grumbled and mouthed the puppy.
Out of the corner of my eye I see a blur, and before I can even BLINK, the young bitch has the other one by the throat. They are up on hind legs, ROARING at each other, and both are gripping the other.
I had raised both these dogs and both were VERY well trained. I would never have been convinced by anyone, and had stated many times before, that I most CERTAINLY could verbally stop a dog fight in my own dog yard among my pack because of my distinct alpha status.
Well, these 2 bitches had not read that book. I screamed at them, and I might as well have been on another planet. They were out to KILL each other. I was REALLY LUCKY, as the young bitch quickly tired, and released, circling looking for another grip.
I SCREAMED at my old bitch to down, THANK GOD she did, and I grabbed the young bitch from behind by both cheeks, pulled her up on her hind legs, with her back against my chest, and worked my way towards my kennel runs.
All the while, I am having to SCREAM at my old bitch to keep her off the bitch I have restrained and up on her hind legs, because the old gal wants to eviscerate her now that I have her restrained. I have blood all OVER my hands, and I can see it dripping off a huge wound in the older bitch's neck.
I FINALLY get the younger bitch in the kennel run, get the hose, and clean my hands. The younger bitch is unharmed.
The older bitch has several DEEP punture wounds, and one large tear in her neck. LUCKY the bitch only got skin and not vital tissues and blood veins. She has a split ear, a split tongue, and 2 more puncture wounds on her shoulder.
This all happened on a lovely spring day, while I was laughing at the other 2 bitches playing, and we were all ( or seemed to be) having a nice time out in the dog yard. It happened so fast I never saw it coming.
It may never happen to you, but if these were my bitches, once you start seeing serious play fighting, etc, (and you will ) I would keep them separated at all times when you are not supervising, for safety's sake, and discuss with ALL family members what to do if a fight ever happens.....
1) DO NOT wade in without a weapon of some sort to protect yourself. You WILL get bitten.
2) Keep things handy that you can break up a fight with. Forget water hoses. Hoe or shovel handle, or any appropriate sized piece of wood or other utensil handle that you can put between the dogs to break them up. Sometimes pepper spray works. I have instructed my husband to use ANY MEANS NECESSARY to stop it if a fight ever breaks out among the bitches here.
ANYONE with working dogs who is running 2 bitches together should have a basic understanding of what happens during a real dog fight, and some plan on how to stop one without getting severely injured.
JMO as always.
We had a dear friend during our Army days in San Antonio .... she raise and showed Dobes and had 2 males and 2 females. She knew which combinitions could be together and had gates throughout the house. One day, there was the wrong combination and she was severly injured trying to break up the fights. I personally couldn't live this way. My dogs have always been family, and yes, they were all intact for breeding purposes... ( except one ). I do feel that 2 females are more problems that 2 males sometimes.... they don't call them b*tches for nothing !