Now she won't stay with the Puppies!!

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Hmm. My only worry with having them under the bed is that it may be difficult for you to keep an eye on the puppies and mother. Is there a way to block off the bed? Maybe if that is unavailable, she'll decide to go with the box.
 
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I would not allow her to have them under the bed, but I would use blankets or towels creatively to make her a place where she feels sheltered and safe.
 

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it will also get VERY smelly under there if you have carpet. Whelping areas should be kept clean at all times. The Mom will miss a squirt of poop here and urine there and it WILL start to stink if it gets into carpet and poses a risk of nasty germs getting to the pups...

Even seemingly helpless 2 week old pups are VERY mobile and they may get out of a box you thought was secure...wander off and become chilled...

IMO they should not be under the bed.
 
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Also, if you are not doing it, you should be taking her temp twice a day. She should stay around 101 to 102. Anything above 102, talk to your vet.

A rise in body temp can be the first indication of a possible uterine infection. This is not uncommon and pretty easily treated IF YOU FIND IT EARLY. If you don't, the infection can poison her milk and then her milk can kill the puppies.

Other symptoms of poison milk include crying fussing puppies that won't stop, and/or foamy green looking stool.

Stool consistency is a big indicator of health in puppies. YOu likely won't see any now because the mom keeps cleaning them up. Just a little more info to maybe help you out.
 
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I live in Maine.
I didn't even think of the smell, and Mom will not let me cut down the box. "Because she said so". Give me a break. Its not like its the only box avilable this side of the mississippi river. Anyway, I put another blanket in the bottom of the box, maybe that will help, she seems very happy right now as I type this.

Somebody mentioned it being too hot in the whelping box, and I know that is not the case, because I had a fan going last night.
 

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Could the cardboard box be too narrow for her ??? Is it nicely padded ?? What was packed in it ?? Maybe she doesn't like the smell . Add...didn't see the other posts ! Just make sure you buy a rectal thermometer .
 

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^^^^

Thus why I said you should ask people who have had puppies in a normal house! I hadn't thought about some of the under the bed problems . . . our biggest problem was bitches that liked the corner between the box and the wall more than the box.

You said you had a fan going . . . is it possible she's getting a draft?
 
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Yes, you can use a regular digital thermometer like you get at Walmart.

The ones who have a quick time from start to finish are best. Keep a log of her temps for the next 10 days, take it am and pm.
 
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she was not acting like she was cold, but I put a blanket over her box, and she was still trying to put the pups under the bed. this was last night, and this morning/afternoon the fan is off. I will not have it going tonight, and see if that makes a difference.

I do not know what was packed in the box before I got it, but I got it from a hardware store, so I know it wasn't food. It says STERILITE all over it, anyone know what that is? She has alot of padding in the bottom of her whelping box now, she didn't last night, just one small blanket. Now she has a puffy blanket, so maybe that will help. she seems happy right now. :D
 

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I know there are STERILITE storage containers...........you know the plastic storage thingys? That is the only thing I can think of with that name, LOL
 
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I found another thing on the box that says 'latch storage box'. So I think your right about the plastic things! Could the smell of those on the box disturbe her? I don't smell anything! And this is the 3rd day shes in it
 

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Could be the plastic smell . I know I don't care for it . One of my daughters passed out in the shower from a new plastic curtain liner .
 

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I doubt it is the box it's self..........it's more likely that she is just more comfy on your bed because that is where she is used to going. Where SHE is more comfy is where she wants her babies to be as well.

Have you tried laying down in the floor by the box with her? Petting her and letting her know you are close by and it's ok? IDK.......I have no whelping knowledge whatsoever, I am just throwing out some things that might help her feel better about staying in the box.
 
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I also have to ask what size the box is?

When Jannah had her puppies at first she was in a small rubbermaid storage bin,and she didn't like it at all cause it WAS too small for her and the puppies. Then we moved her to a really large box almost the size of a refrigerator box but a bit smaller..and she liked that one much better causer she could actually move around.

I must admit though, I had her and her puppies on my bed with me the majority of the time. I even had the box on my bed, and just slept on the very edge of it so her and her puppies were comfy. And when they got older, they pretty much lived on my bed until they started pooing on their own, then I had to put them down in their x-pen. But there were not any problems with them on my bed. Not that I recommend it for safety reasons. (I was 15 at the time too, and didn't really think. "Hey, I could injure them if I rolled over on them"). So definitely don't do that.
 

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Just for the benefit of others reading. This type of behavior is a good example of why bitches raised as housepets seldom make spectacular Moms. they get used to being the center of attention and many times they prefer the company of their people...to their own pups.

This is not directed at the OP but rather just a general "point to ponder" for those that may be considering breeding the family pet.

To the gal trying her best...just do what you can to keep her with her pups and try not to stress her too much. Stress is really not good as it can affect milk production, cause odd behaviors that might endanger the pups etc.

Just find a way...ex pen for ex..to keep her in that box aside from potty times...and yes hold her down should you need to. Those pups need her milk and trust me you don't want to go the hand feeding route as it is a TON of work.
 

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Just for the benefit of others reading. This type of behavior is a good example of why bitches raised as housepets seldom make spectacular Moms. they get used to being the center of attention and many times they prefer the company of their people...to their own pups.
Wait, I'm confused. Aren't show dogs usually the "center of attention" with their owners?
 

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I think the amount of dogs being turned in for "inappropriate" behaviors is testament to the fact that not many folks these days...off this forum at least...are interested in accepting that sometimes dogs need to dogs and not fur people ;) That is what I am referring to.
 
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