My dog had 11 puppies, help!!!

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RedyreRottweilers said:
how typical that you would compare the selective responsible breeding of dogs to humans.

You conveniently omit the helpful and educational links I provided, along with a spay neuter contract, and suggestions for methods of getting the puppies S/N before they go to their new homes.

I don't consider a few emoticons indicating my frustration with things like this a sh*tstorm.

YOUR posts on the matter, however, could qualify as that.
Of course you don't. Because you're not on the receiving end of your own posts. Since you're on the receiving end of mine, of course it's a different story. Here's a suggestion for you. Pick a topic. Any topic. Research it just a tiny bit. Let's say an automotive maintenance forum. Go find a message board on that topic, that has a bunch of "experts" on it, and post a "please help" post on the topic, saying that you are at a loss for what to do because you accidentally put motor oil in the transmission instead of transmission fluid.

Wait for the "what an idiot you are", and "God I can't believe you're such a moron" comments to start to fly, and then imagine that you actually are a person who tried to do the best by their car, did something wrong, and then tried to rectify it by asking people more knowledgeable than you advice and the first responses you got were criticism, sarcasm and innuendo that you are stupid. It might make you hesitant to ask questions in the future. Hell it might just make you think that car maintenance types are a bunch of a-holes and not worth the grief of asking questions of.

I at least have the nerve to admit when I make a mistake and make remarks that are uncalled for. But my response when someone else makes a mistake and asks for help (a mistake in understanding how important spaying is at an age when the dog can't get pregnant, not a deliberate belittlement of another human being) isn't to attack them and suggest they're stupid, but to try and help. First. Not after I smack my forhead with my fist and go "God you're an idiot".
 

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stevinski said:
shut up it does!
your actually being too harsh to this person, her dog had an accidental litter!
it really doesnt make you a breeder if your dog had puppies, it makes you a person whos dog had puppies, a breeder is someone who organises it.

a breeder in the dictionary is 'someone who breeds animals'
unless i'm missing something, this person didnt intentionally breed her dog, so that doesnt make her a breeder, and i for one wish her all the best and hope that everything goes ok.
She BRED her dog...whether intentional or NOT she allowed it to happen.

Saying "My dog accidentally was bred" is a cop and an excuse...

A properly supervised dog does NOT have accidental litters.

Fixed animals do NOT have accidental litters.

The only way the dog could have been bred was if the OP allowed it to happen, by her own actions or inactions.

Many here are quick to applaud the OP for caring for these puppies rather than dumping them...I have to be honest I find that slightly dissapointing...You should not be praised or applauded for doing what you are supposed to do.

These puppies are in the world now, they are forever the OP's responsibility, by allowing them to be born the OP has made an unspoken commitment to their care and well being. I will not cheer someone on for doing what they are supposed to do.

In regards to me tearing into her...Believe me, those familiar with my feelings on irresponsible breeding can attest that for me I was being "gentle" with her.
 
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This woman did not breed her dog.

She has already said that, she was ready to have the dog spayed and that the dog had a silent heat.

She rescues these dogs from shelters and does everything she can to make sure they have good lives. She made a mistake. I am sure you have made some too.

She obviously did not plan on this and had no idea what to do. She came here to make sure she was doing the best possible thing for them. She could have put them all in a box and left them on the front steps of the HS. But she is trying to be responsible. I have not seen her back on here, so she was probably scared away by those people who could not keep their comments to themselves and now when she has a problem she will probably not come and get the answers she needs.

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Of course you don't. Because you're not on the receiving end of your own posts. Since you're on the receiving end of mine, of course it's a different story. Here's a suggestion for you. Pick a topic. Any topic. Research it just a tiny bit. Let's say an automotive maintenance forum. Go find a message board on that topic, that has a bunch of "experts" on it, and post a "please help" post on the topic, saying that you are at a loss for what to do because you accidentally put motor oil in the transmission instead of transmission fluid.

Wait for the "what an idiot you are", and "God I can't believe you're such a moron" comments to start to fly, and then imagine that you actually are a person who tried to do the best by their car, did something wrong, and then tried to rectify it by asking people more knowledgeable than you advice and the first responses you got were criticism, sarcasm and innuendo that you are stupid. It might make you hesitant to ask questions in the future. Hell it might just make you think that car maintenance types are a bunch of a-holes and not worth the grief of asking questions of.

I at least have the nerve to admit when I make a mistake and make remarks that are uncalled for. But my response when someone else makes a mistake and asks for help (a mistake in understanding how important spaying is at an age when the dog can't get pregnant, not a deliberate belittlement of another human being) isn't to attack them and suggest they're stupid, but to try and help. First. Not after I smack my forhead with my fist and go "God you're an idiot".

Good Point!!
 
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Good Point!!
Is that a bull terrier in your pictures? A lot of folks around here keep them for hunting dogs and general farm dogs. They call them "pit bulls" From every one I've seen a very badly misunderstood breed by the popular press. Every one I've seen has been a really great dog, albiet very high energy!

I used to go out into my yard every morning and find my Rottweiler playing exuberently with the neighbor's pack of pit bulls. They would have great "wrestling matches" where the "Big dog" (mine) would get jumped upon (not actually attacked, just horseplay biting) by the group of smaller dogs and then the'yd try to drag him to the ground by sheer numbers. My neighbor wasn't such a great doggie owner. My poor wife got dragged through the mud repeatedly trying to get the silly beasts back into the neighbors yard:D

But they had fun. They were all puppies really, my rottweiler and the pits.

p.s. I know this really wrong of me to notice in the order I did (but after all this is a dog forum so expect me to notice the obvious first :D But the kids are positively radiant! Those beautiful blue eyes! You are truly blessed. I've got a big blue eyed beauty too.



(sorry for the OT folks, but you have to allow a guy his bragging rights :D)
 
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This woman did not breed her dog.

She has already said that, she was ready to have the dog spayed and that the dog had a silent heat.
Actually she did breed her dog, whether indirectly or not. Her actions allowed the dog to become impregnated..

The OP said she had an appointment to have the dog fixed and it got pregnant.
If she had the appointment already there would have been ample time to spay the dog and terminate the pregnancy.

I believe it was Smkie who mentioned having a litter once from a dog that had a silent heat and when she found out it was too late to terminate the pregnancy...

If the OP had an appointment for getting her dog fixed and she knew it needed to be fixed and she gave it the opportunity to get pregnant then honestly shame on her.

A silent heat is no excuse...if you know you have an intact bitch and you do NOT want puppies then you best be sure to do everything in your power to ensure you don't have a litter.

She rescues these dogs from shelters and does everything she can to make sure they have good lives. [
She may be trying to do her best but that does not make what she excusable...it is NOT unreasonable to think that someone who "adopted half a dozen animals from the shelter that would have been put to sleep" would know how important it was to not allow this to happen.

She made a mistake. I am sure you have made some too.
I have yet to make a mistake with my own pets or any of the foster dogs that have been in my care but for the record in the event I ever do I would fully expect a verbal lashing.

She obviously did not plan on this and had no idea what to do.
She did not plan it...but she did NOT do all she could to prevent it either.

She came here to make sure she was doing the best possible thing for them. She could have put them all in a box and left them on the front steps of the HS. But she is trying to be responsible.
Again others may choose to see things differently...I will not applaud her for not dumping the pups...I don't praise people for doing what they are supposed to do. It is her responsibility to take care of these puppies now.

I have not seen her back on here, so she was probably scared away by those people who could not keep their comments to themselves and now when she has a problem she will probably not come and get the answers she needs.
I honestly doubt she was scared away, I am more apt to believe she is either not logging in and in lurk mode or she is busy in her daily life.

"Those people who could not keep their comments to themselves?" Shall I guess that you are referring to me because I think its safe to say that most people on this thread "bit their tongue" to keep from "saying" what they really thought about all this.
 
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Wow, look I got my post broken up into cute little quotes and every sentence was dissected for me, just in case I forgot what I said:mad:

Elissa
 

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Wow, look I got my post broken up into cute little quotes and every sentence was dissected for me, just in case I forgot what I said:mad:

Elissa
****** and moaning because I broke up your post in quotes is really grasping at straws..Its reminds me of when there is a debate going on in a thread and one party does not know how to respond so they go on and on about a mispelled word. :rolleyes:
 
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Is that a bull terrier in your pictures? A lot of folks around here keep them for hunting dogs and general farm dogs. They call them "pit bulls" From every one I've seen a very badly misunderstood breed by the popular press. Every one I've seen has been a really great dog, albiet very high energy!

I used to go out into my yard every morning and find my Rottweiler playing exuberently with the neighbor's pack of pit bulls. They would have great "wrestling matches" where the "Big dog" (mine) would get jumped upon (not actually attacked, just horseplay biting) by the group of smaller dogs and then the'yd try to drag him to the ground by sheer numbers. My neighbor wasn't such a great doggie owner. My poor wife got dragged through the mud repeatedly trying to get the silly beasts back into the neighbors yard

But they had fun. They were all puppies really, my rottweiler and the pits.

p.s. I know this really wrong of me to notice in the order I did (but after all this is a dog forum so expect me to notice the obvious first :D But the kids are positively radiant! Those beautiful blue eyes! You are truly blessed. I've got a big blue eyed beauty too.
Bailey is a Staffordshire Bull Terrier.......He is a Darling :)
Thank you for the comment on my Children........I have to agree that they are all Radiant :D
You daughter is beautiful........I love her eyes :)
 

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Thanks again to everyone who knows how to act CIVIL on this message board. Yes, Serena, I have been busy in my daily life taking care of these puppies. But of course that's what I deserve since I messed up and made a mistake, right? And by the way, by the time I realized she was pregnant, I was advised that it was too late to terminate. It IS risky to terminate once they get past a certain point. Anyway, the puppies are doing good, I have put a picture of them on here(I can't get my camera to take a decent pic today, this is from 2 weeks ago). And as for the negative people on here, go find some othere message board to flame. I don't have time to wade through your condescending posts while trying to find helpful advice.


 

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Thanks, they are beautiful, aren't they? Two are black and white, one looks like a chocolate lab, two look like black labs, four look just like their momma, and the last two, I don't know how to describe. They are sort of German Shepherd looking, but they are mostly black. VERY cute. I will post more pics later, I gotta get some rest while they are sleeping.:)
 
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How adorable they are. I don't know of many things sweeter than little baby puppies.

Best of luck over the next few weeks until they are ready to go to their new homes.
 

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awwwww they are so cute.....i want one(jk) i dont hav the room !!!

oh and Serena can i just say if you dont hav any thing nice to say go away !!!!!! how old are you stop attact poeple we are not a school any more !!!!!! grow up
and plz dont Quote every thing i say
 
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Oh my i am in love! The one with the spot on it's head looks like my bronki. I hope he has a long and loved life!!! as well as all the other babies. Thank you so much for sharing. I hope we get updates too..hint hint hint;) :)
 
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they are so cute. I love the white and black ones.

As they get bigger they look like they will be quite the handful, I can not imagine 11 pups at once, i wish you all the best and hope you have some help, or at least a fenced in yard.

Elissa
 
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