Foods containing euthanasia drug

skaa9

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I have a question what do you do when you live in a little country where you don't have so many choices ???
It is better home made cook ?
Before I used to give my dogs royal canin , now I;m giving them eukanuba ...
Are they really so bad ????
it is pro plan , dog chow better ????
I really haven't where to choose...
I have seen some american marks here that I haven't heard before like o'roy
or something like that ...
 

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None of those are really great. WHy don't you start a new thread in the food forum and look for Mordy. She's the expert. She'll help you :D
 

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Saje said:
None of those are really great. WHy don't you start a new thread in the food forum and look for Mordy. She's the expert. She'll help you :D
Ok Saje I will do that because till yesterday I start looking web about it , I start with teh one you gave me , I try to analize eukanuba product but still need help =OP
I will amke a new board
 

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I want to say this, which may have been said. My future SIL dad is a vet. A very good one I feel too. his son, SIL, thinks differnt dog foods are bunk. One of my french bull dogs has a algery(sp) that causes her to break out in black bumps that are like pimples. In trying differnt foods, we feel it is corn. If you read the dog food ingredients the first one or in the top 5 is corn. Corn, corn. we found some dog food that did not contain corn, and it made a real difference . I think it was Solid Gold Hund-n-Flocken. I think it was very good food, but the place that carried it stopped. This is a real problem in rual Texas. No ones carries it that is close. We have gone to a lamb and rice kibble, but we have not been real happy with it.

We make a large portion of the food that we feed from scratch. It seems to do good with our rescue dogs and our own too.:D

Just my 2 cents

Richard
 

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Hey I am new here upon reading this I am shocked! Is this still happening? I hope It is ok That I cross posted this! This world truly is sad
 
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pitbulliest said:
Wellness and Wysong are good holistic brands for dogs... I always recommend them. Never buy anything in your regular market unless you like feeding your dog poison and support cruel and pointless animal testing on domesticated dogs...

i disagree. yes, you should feed your dog food that's good for him...but not everyone can get your "holistic brands" where they live...and shipping dog food isn't exactly cheap. :) my dogs food is not "poison"...as a matter of fact it was one of the FEW listed that said ther was "no phenobarbitol" in the food (none of the varieties of the dog food we use had pheno in it). just because you can afford to get expensive holistic food, doesn't mean everyone else that can't are "supporting cruel and pointless animal testing".
 
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schmitzgirly94 said:
Yay I'm so glad!
My dogs eat Purina Dog Chow and
that brand is in the clear! I'm
happy that I know my dogs
are healthy thanks to that chart.

regardless of what others have been saying about purina...i still use it...it's been good so far, and i haven't had any problems with it. if you want, you can go to purina's website and find out exactly what all those ingredients in your dogs food are and what they are for.....each person has their own opinions on what dog food is the best.
 
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Renee750il said:
Actually, the Purina Dog Chow isn't necessarily cleared: it has a 'no result.' But some of the Purina One brand (their version of a premium line) has been found to contain the contaminant.

And Mordy's right about the quality - as usual :)

it said "no" and the article said if it states "no" then it means none was found. i don't know where you were looking, but all the purina's i saw all had a "no" beside it...not "no result". :)

just because you think someone is right doesn't mean everyone else does...:)
 
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Whitedobelover said:
no dogs cant... i just talked to my vet who has many years research and experience especially with dobermans and corn cant get digested even with kibble... we as humans cant even properly digest... and also....there is no nutrional value with it...

corn isnt digestible anyway you cut it in humans or dogs
The two most common myths about corn are that corn it is not digestible, and that it is an allergen. These two statements are very misleading to the public and NOT true. According to "Small Animal Clinical Nutrition", 4th Edition," corn is 91% digestible. This immediately dispels the myth that corn is not digestible. The story goes... look at how corn comes out when we eat corn on the cob (or some variation on the same crude story), so it can't be very digestible. The reason an ingredient list for pet food says "ground corn" instead of just "corn" is because whole corn is finely ground before it is added to the food. The outer layer of the corn kernel is impervious to stomach acid and grinding the corn is necessary to expose the very digestible inner part of the kernel to the digestive process. Unfortunately, there are people that would rather sell their "corn free" product than to give out correct information. Interestingly, many of these companies do not have access to the corn growing states. The most basic research can attest to the high digestibility of ground corn. Why feed corn?


Corn is 91% digestible
Corn is one of the best sources of linoleic acid
Corn oil is one of the best sources of Omega 6 fatty acid (great for skin and coat)
Corn provides essential amino acids and fiber.
"Corn is nutritionally superior grain compared with others used in pet foods because it contains a balance of nutrients not found in other grains." - Small Animal Clinical Nutrition 4th edition

http://www.beowulfs.com/magazine/corn.htm

now...what was all that about corn being no good and non digestible?? :)
 
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Whitedobelover said:
Dogs need a balanced meal like humans. Humans are omnivores. We need a mixture of meats and vegetation. Dogs are carnivores. Their digestive tracts are designed to process meat. While they do need some vegetation to aid in digestion, the type and quality are very important. Fillers like brewer's rice and corn gluten (which are the shells of these grains) are primarily undigestible. Corn and soybeans are vegetative products used in many dog foods that are leading causes of allergies in dogs.
~Flint river research company

this right here shows your statement is incorrect and false... corn isnt digestible at all
Canids include the dogs, foxes, coyote and wolf. While all are members of the order Carnivora, most are not, strictly speaking, carnivores. The retention of functional crushing teeth behind the carnassials enables them to eat a variety of foods, and the canids are omnivores.
http://www.azdrybones.com/canids.htm
 
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Based on the nutrition studies done at NCSU vet school, we have found that the Total Digestible Nutrients in corn (protein, carbs, etc) is 85% (Soybean meal having a TDN of about 25%), which shows corn is a very digestible grain. Far more digestible than vegetables, which have a TDN of 34%, although they are a good source of fiber. When dogs are allergic to corn, they are usually allergic to the protein portion of the endosperm....this also goes for chicken and other forms of protein--dogs are allergic to more protein sources than just grains (although a grain-BASED diet can be harmful).
 

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Dog eats Dog

Yes i recently found out that rendering plants not only use cow, lamb, pig and so on but also dogs and cats too. Pretty bad just thinking about it. I stopped feeding my doxies commercial pet food wet and dry.

Think about where all the road kill goes to? the pets that were put to sleep along with the collars and flea collars and the plastic bags that they are wrapped in? Its just too sick for me to think i was feeding my little dogs this crap and how the manufacturers lie to the customers about what in there Special Blend top quaility dog food.

Last night i cooked and seperate in zip lock bag and freeze the following.

Carrots and Spinach
Chicken along with chicken broth
Rice
Oatmeal

Still trying to come up with other thoughts for the diet. But in the morning i feed them oatmeal and a egg with Natural Receipe dry food (all natural)
and in the evening something like rice and chicken or chicken and veggies.

My older doxie (7) seems to have more energy and more alert since the new diet.

So if any one has any good diet receipes please share.
 
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Good work, Doxie Mom . . .

If you'll go through the threads in this food Forum, you'll find a lot of information on home cooked and raw feeding. Also, check out Mordy's site (there is a link in her signature) for well-researched, accurate information. And of course, if you'll start a thread with your questions, you'll get some answers as well :)
 
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God I am so confused. I feed Nutro Natural for Large Breed....Couldn't find it on the list (maybe I looked at wrong one or I am blind)
Uggggg
 
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Dog Food Industry not regulated...

Dog Food producers are not regulated. There is a reason why the bag/can says, "not fit for human consumption". My dog, a mixed breed, had skin problems until I stopped feeding him dog food from the supermarket and starting preparing his food from "human consumption" ingredients. Not only did his skin problems disappear, but he perked up and is acting years younger. Please do your research...your dog will thank you for it! There seems to be a disturbing trend lately....several of my friends have had dogs less than 6 yrs old develop cancers (liver, bone and kidney), the vets could not say it was their diets, but you think about it....

Larry
 
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Dog Food producers are not regulated. There is a reason why the bag/can says, "not fit for human consumption". My dog, a mixed breed, had skin problems until I stopped feeding him dog food from the supermarket and starting preparing his food from "human consumption" ingredients. Not only did his skin problems disappear, but he perked up and is acting years younger. Please do your research...your dog will thank you for it! There seems to be a disturbing trend lately....several of my friends have had dogs less than 6 yrs old develop cancers (liver, bone and kidney), the vets could not say it was their diets, but you think about it....

Larry
I have been in a small animal feed producer in my travels as a office equipment salesman. I was shocked at what they use. They use expired foods and recycle them into feed for different animals (including dogs). The place was disgusting with bins of dirty candy bars, potato chips and other unrecognizable smelly dirty foods setting open in large bins. It smelled of spoiled grains. I don't know how they make this stuff into a feed that has consistent taste. I don't think they could. But they don't have to make it taste the same every time it only has to look the same every time .

I am not condeming the whole industry after only seeing one small factory. But it did wake me up to what is allowed in the animal feed world.
 

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Skin problems....now I know why

Sparky suffered from skin allergies all his life. Our vet never recommended feeding him any other food... he was eating Purina Dog Chow brand... I wish I could go back and feed him something else! I am appalled that these practices happen.

Sparky is no longer with us, but I will ensure my daughter is aware of all these issues for her pup.
 

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Read This!!! And Watch The Video.

Still feeding your pooch commercial dog food?

When asked, The President of AAFCO said: "If the
ingredient say's meat or bone meal, you don't know
if it is cattle, or sheep, or horse . . . or fluffy." Then
went on to say: ". . . nutritionally, it is still protein."

Watch the video here;

http://home.att.net/~srcusick/deaddogsinfood.avi

I have a ton of information like this on commercial dog food.

Just send a message and I'll forward it to you.
 
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