Does anyone else find this odd?

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Ok, so I am writting my check to the petfinder jar as we speak... BUT!

I saw this one dog and the rescue just kinda struck me as weird...

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=4804275

that we flew here all the way from Denmark
why would you do that?

* Borzoi can only be adopted by our previous adopters.
that's just strange...

from the site:
Our Gentle Giants do not require much exercise or much space, they eat just a little bit more than smaller dogs, and they are the #1 apartment dogs in most cities.
oh really? but then you go on to say this:

For example, we allow our dogs the freedom to go outside whenever they want to, and conversely, the freedom to come back inside whenever they want to. These are the same freedoms that a human has.

So, it does take a little extra effort to pay attention to what your dog is trying to communicate to you. And by doing this, your dog feels that he or she has some say so in their life and they don't give up and resign themselves that they are either “cooped up†outside or “cooped up†inside. This freedom we give them enriches their emotional needs and their spirit, and they are happier. Happier dogs live longer.

Our dogs go outside every few hours (or sooner if they want to). Yes, they frolic and play in between feeding times. You can see that in the many photos on our website. But, after about 15 to 20 minutes, they've had enough and that frolic and play gets old for them and they want to come back into their "den" (figuratively speaking), which is their house (and if you adopt from us, your house).
Our dogs are adopted only as personal companion pets, and are not adopted to provide any form of work. In addition, we do not adopt our dogs to people who breed dogs.
I understand no breeders, I wouldn't ADOPT dog so it could be bred either... BUT the dog can't be used as a working dog? most of the dogs that visit hospitals(forget what they call them) are dogs that were adopted. It's work! and they get treated great! I've even seen dogs that are search and rescue that were adopted. If I was the dog, I would LOVE that life! better than sitting on my butt in someone kitchen while they ignore me all the time...

Gentle Giants Rescue And Adoptions Content Requirements For Dog Food
are you Fing serious?



Is it me or are these people really strange?
 

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Do a search on here for Gentle Giants. That'll tell you quite a bit. They're fscking crazy.
 

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I just tried searching and didn't find anything... and I did it with and without quotes...

but yes the things I read on just the one page(I didn't go through the whole site) made me go :yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes:
 

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I was a couple years ago thinking I'd LOVE to rescue from that group until I read what PW posted. I wish more people knew the truth about them- It's a business to them, not a rescue place. I hope they go down in flames SOON. *sigh*
 

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How horrible.

Thank you for posting this information and bringing them to light.

It is truly disgusting what they are doing...and under the guise of a rescue?

UGH!
 

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Ever since our Binn , I'm sick at my stomach whenever I hear the name ...............
 

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I'm surprised when I searched gentle giants that those threads didn't come up... or maybe they did but I didn't read them enough to realize....

yes yes... very sick... poor doggies.... :(
 
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I myself really wanted to rescue a dog from Gentle Giants..and then I was informed of what kind of people they were and how those poor dogs are treated. They are psychos.
 

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I agree, Grammy. I felt my heart sink when I saw the dog's Petfinder page and read the name of the "rescue."
Poor Binn. . .I know we're not really supposed to talk about him at length on the forum, but I think of him all the time. :(
 
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They were the first place to pop up when I was considering a rescue Wolfhound. Luckily, chaz had already pointed me in the right direction. Suprise, suprise, years later the same "half-grown" wolfhound is still listed as being for adoption.
On another note, are Borzoi that difficult as a breed? I know some breeds require an experienced owner, but I'd never heard that about them.
 
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I don't know how they're still operating in California as a "non-profit rescue". Calif. is normally very regulation-happy .... there's breed bans in some municipalities and then there's the mandatory spay/neuter law in LA. (Not that I'm against spay/neuter but just think education in such matters is better than mandates ... which just tend to affect the law-abiding while pushing violators underground.)

But GG is so obviously not a "rescue" .... they're breeding dogs fer gosh sakes! Real rescues seldom have puppies, and when they do the puppies are mixed breeds! Purebred puppies in rescue are rare. But GG always seems to have plenty of puppies, and purebred ones at that ... strange California can't catch on to that incongruency and revoke their non-profit status.
 

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I wouldn't put it past them to be breed their dogs. Is there any link that talks about breeding? I just know they wouldn't put it on their site, so it must be somewhere else that says it.
 
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Is there any link that talks about breeding? I just know they wouldn't put it on their site, so it must be somewhere else that says it.
No, they don't talk about their "breeding program" if that's what you mean. But they do have a permanent link: "Puppies available for adoption".

There's always pages and pages of puppies ... mostly purebreds and all large breeds ... where could a true "rescue" possibly get that many puppies of the same types of breeds? There's also some designer dogs, including the "breed" they made up: "Sasquatch".

The site doesn't specifically say (admit?) that they're breeding .... but perhaps that would just be stating the obvious?
 

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I've also noticed the ridiculous amount of puppies. There are lot of large rescues that I've never seen have so many pups.
 

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They are a "Rescue Mill". And yes they do breed and sell puppies. They have done co-breedings of borzoi.

And no, borzoi are definitely NOT that much more difficult than other dogs. Frankly, I am extremely surprised they are not more popular. They are different than the average dog, in temperament and drives, so someone considering a borzoi needs to be aware of that, but I wouldn't call them "harder". In many ways their low activity level and quiet demeanor makes them a more ideal family pet than some of the more popular breeds. The "adoption fees" that GGs charge for fully grown older dogs is also outrageous.....sometimes 1/3 to 1/2 more than the average purchase price of a quality health tested puppy. From what I have been told, there is more than one large breed club working to shut them down.

I'm going off to look for the site of the breeder that co-bred with them.....
 

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Still looking for the specific paragraph.....a lot of their borzoi are from this breeder, but I don't know if they are specifically the dogs up for adoption or just the "poster borzois" on the GG website.

http://shefaro.com/specialdogsm/id219.htm

http://www.gentlegiantsrescue.com/borzoi_page_4.htm#borzoi4

Okay, here on this page you can see that some of this breeder's dogs went to GG and were sold....I mean er, adopted out, and are working as therapy dogs...:rolleyes: So essentially this person is flat out admitting that the Wards are brokering their borzois to the public as "rescues"

http://shefaro.com/holyborzoibatman/

I just noticed GG has filas now. For some reason, that makes me sadder than anything. :(

ETA: You know, I think we all need to start a letter writing campaign to the folks who run petfinder.com If the Wards want to sell dogs, they should be advertising on some dog selling site like puppyfind, or whatever....NOT a site that was created for the purpose of finding needy animals homes.

ETAETA: Okay, this is getting out of hand. I keep finding more and more crap. Here is a "testimonial letter" quoted from the breeder's website: Just. Wow. I have no words.

Guerrero was adopted from Gentle Giants. He is now "Nikolai" and adored by his new family. Doreen writes: ----- Original Message ----- From: Doreen To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Guerrero Hi there, We wanted to let you know that we have adopted Prince Nicolai of Ward, aka Guerrero, from the Wards August 27, 2005. He is absolutely wonderful, sweet, loving, and gorgeous, and also has the companionship of Ronan, our 2 year old Irish wolfhound. Right now Nicolai is sound asleep on the sofa after making it into our bed last night. He fit into our home immediately, even using the doggie door without us having to show him. If you'd like, we can send you some photos as soon as my husband downloads them. Also, if there is any information you'd like to share with us about him, we'd greatly appreciate it. Needless to say, Nicolai has a home for life. We are humbled and honored to have this precious creature in our life. The Wards are also incredibly kind and loving people, and they hold you in the highest esteem. Sincerely, Ron & Doreen
 
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Gentle Giants is one of the largest profiteers under the guise of being a rescue there is. But what they are doing is not as uncommon as many would believe. I did rescue work for many years and during my time I met many people who did pretty much the same thing as GG. They would take in dogs and breed the intact ones then "adopt out" the puppies claiming they were rescues. For some, it is quite a profitable "business". Sad, very sad. :mad:
 
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