Ol' Roy Puppy Food?
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Cindr, I've been threatening to go on an EVO diet, lol! Seeing how ripped my dogs are, and the EVO is better nutrition than what I get . . . 
Did I try the dog food? Yup! Did it tast good? NOPE!! So now I am on the Cabage patch diet.
opcorn: Can't wait till I can eat real food!!!!I have to stay away from the lettuce now. Some one **** in it!!! Traces of e=coli:spam:
It does last much, much longer though. Prices mean nothing, you need to consider the price per day. The $38 33lb bag of innova lasts my two big boys over a month. They only need 2 or 3 cups of it a day... In comparison, I should feed probably 5 to 6 cups of mediocre food for the same calories... which means the cheap bag would often end up more expensive, because I would need more of it.
There: http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=costfactors
Although I'm sure it must have been mentionned in the thread already...
Edit: read the thread, and yep, it's mentionned about everywhere. I guess some people don't know how to read, or have a hard time comprehending how it is cheaper to buy a $20 bag of food every month or two than a $10 bag of food every 2 weeks... or that even if it's about the same price, it's worth getting the best food.
Guess I wasted another 5 minutes of my time. Oh well.
There: http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=costfactors
Although I'm sure it must have been mentionned in the thread already...
Edit: read the thread, and yep, it's mentionned about everywhere. I guess some people don't know how to read, or have a hard time comprehending how it is cheaper to buy a $20 bag of food every month or two than a $10 bag of food every 2 weeks... or that even if it's about the same price, it's worth getting the best food.
Guess I wasted another 5 minutes of my time. Oh well.
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Do you have a costco store near you?
I do feed kirkland signature and my dogs really are doing great on it.
They have even taken the menodione out of the formula.
My 94 lbs choc lab eats 3 level (dry measuring) cups per day.
He is at a great weight. for his size.
My 70 lbs yellow lab, I reduced to two cups a day a few weeks ago, she was starting to (slightly) get the middle age spread. She looks better already.
My 65 lbs German Shepherd gets 4 cups per day (sometimes a little more). She is VERY active and on the thin side, especially after her stay at the kennel a couple months ago. Before I started on this food she was too skinny and scratched all the time. Her skin is perfect now, and no more scratching. She also used to be a very picky eater.... I have no problems getting her to eat this food.... That is a big plus.
I really guess it is a personal choice what you feed your dog, and you really have gotten some great advice. It is just up to you whether you choose to
let it sink in or not.
I am comfortable with what I feed after much looking. But am always up for a change if I find something better and available to me.
Just curious, those feeding super premium foods, tell us (truthfully ) how many one cup dry measuring cups you feed per day, and the weight of your dog, how active they are etc. If you would like also tell the calories per cup in your food.
Kirkland Chicken and Rice has 362 per cup.
Never hurts to compare and talk about this........who knows maybe I may change foods some day........ My costco membership will expire in Nov.
Thanks..
I do feed kirkland signature and my dogs really are doing great on it.
They have even taken the menodione out of the formula.
My 94 lbs choc lab eats 3 level (dry measuring) cups per day.
He is at a great weight. for his size.
My 70 lbs yellow lab, I reduced to two cups a day a few weeks ago, she was starting to (slightly) get the middle age spread. She looks better already.
My 65 lbs German Shepherd gets 4 cups per day (sometimes a little more). She is VERY active and on the thin side, especially after her stay at the kennel a couple months ago. Before I started on this food she was too skinny and scratched all the time. Her skin is perfect now, and no more scratching. She also used to be a very picky eater.... I have no problems getting her to eat this food.... That is a big plus.
I really guess it is a personal choice what you feed your dog, and you really have gotten some great advice. It is just up to you whether you choose to
let it sink in or not.
I am comfortable with what I feed after much looking. But am always up for a change if I find something better and available to me.
Just curious, those feeding super premium foods, tell us (truthfully
) how many one cup dry measuring cups you feed per day, and the weight of your dog, how active they are etc. If you would like also tell the calories per cup in your food.Kirkland Chicken and Rice has 362 per cup.
Never hurts to compare and talk about this........who knows maybe I may change foods some day........ My costco membership will expire in Nov.
Thanks..
C
He good topic: Well we pay the $70.00 per bag of Iams. We have 8 dogs here right now. The 4 Gsd pups as we all know on their puppy food price is now $85.00 this includes tax.
Okay just had the girls weight done this week.
Miss Zoe:The Dob 70 lbs
Miss Fritzy 67 lbs
Miss Joy 67 libs
4 Gsd pups 3 months old 25 lbs to 30 lbs. Vet impressed
Pups get 32 cups per day 6 cups each
All the adults get 4 cups per day
So I go through 48 cups of food per day
Energy level on the adult dogs extremely high none stop
PUPS Some what full of energy for now but do to the fact they are still growing can't say what they will be like in the future.
My dogs eat all and everything placed in front of them like they are always hungry. I can tell you this we have caught the girls in the cookie jar a time or two. Meaning Dog food bag.
As far as the calories and all that I would have to go out and check. Gee's looking at it these guys cost me an arm and a leg!!!!!!!!!:lol-sign:
Okay just had the girls weight done this week.
Miss Zoe:The Dob 70 lbs
Miss Fritzy 67 lbs
Miss Joy 67 libs
4 Gsd pups 3 months old 25 lbs to 30 lbs. Vet impressed
Pups get 32 cups per day 6 cups each
All the adults get 4 cups per day
So I go through 48 cups of food per day
Energy level on the adult dogs extremely high none stop
PUPS Some what full of energy for now but do to the fact they are still growing can't say what they will be like in the future.
My dogs eat all and everything placed in front of them like they are always hungry. I can tell you this we have caught the girls in the cookie jar a time or two. Meaning Dog food bag.
As far as the calories and all that I would have to go out and check. Gee's looking at it these guys cost me an arm and a leg!!!!!!!!!:lol-sign:
Cindr, just an FYI:
Iams Lamb and Rice:
Lamb Meal, Brewers Rice, Corn Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Corn Grits, Chicken By-Product Meal, Ground Whole Grain Barley, Chicken Fat (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Beet Pulp (Sugar Removed), Fish Meal, Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Egg Product, Potassium Chloride, Brewers Dried Yeast, Salt, Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (Source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Fish Oil (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Choline Chloride, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), Monosodium Phosphate, DL-Methionine, Rosemary Extract
4 out of the first 5 ingredients are grain fillers!
Brewer's Rice is the small milled fragment of rice kernels that have been separated from the larger kernels of milled rice. Brewer's rice is a lower quality rice product that is missing many of the nutrients found in ground rice and ground brown rice. It is basically a waste product of the alcohol industry.
Chicken By-Product Meal: Consists of the dry, ground, rendered, clean parts of the carcass of slaughtered chicken, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines -- exclusive of feathers except in such amounts as might occur unavoidably in good processing practices.
Ground Yellow Corn is the entire corn kernel, ground or chopped. While the whole corn kernel is nutritious and supplies whole grain nutrition, corn is considered to be highly allergenic and difficult for dogs to digest.
Dried Beet Pulp is the dried residue from sugar beets, which has been cleaned, freed from crowns, leaves, and sand, and extracted in the process of manufacturing sugar. Dried beet pulp is added to some pet foods to act as a fibrous stool hardener.
Fish Meal: The clean, rendered, dried ground tissue of undecomposed whole fish or fish cuttings, either or both, with or without the extraction of part of the oil. Unless the manufacturer either presents a permit or states "human grade" fish or fish meal is used, you can be pretty sure Ethoxyquin is present in the food even if it is not listed.
Salt: While salt is a necessary mineral, it is also generally present in sufficient quantities in the ingredients pet foods include. Just like for humans, too much sodium intake is unhealthy for animals. In poor quality foods it is often used in large amounts to add flavor and make the food more interesting.
Canidae All Life Stages:
Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Herring Meal, Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Dried Enterococcus Faecium, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.
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Pet Food Direct Prices: 20lb Bag
Iams: $21.29
Canidae: $20.99
Iams Lamb and Rice:
Lamb Meal, Brewers Rice, Corn Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Corn Grits, Chicken By-Product Meal, Ground Whole Grain Barley, Chicken Fat (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Beet Pulp (Sugar Removed), Fish Meal, Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Egg Product, Potassium Chloride, Brewers Dried Yeast, Salt, Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (Source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Fish Oil (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Choline Chloride, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), Monosodium Phosphate, DL-Methionine, Rosemary Extract
4 out of the first 5 ingredients are grain fillers!
Brewer's Rice is the small milled fragment of rice kernels that have been separated from the larger kernels of milled rice. Brewer's rice is a lower quality rice product that is missing many of the nutrients found in ground rice and ground brown rice. It is basically a waste product of the alcohol industry.
Chicken By-Product Meal: Consists of the dry, ground, rendered, clean parts of the carcass of slaughtered chicken, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines -- exclusive of feathers except in such amounts as might occur unavoidably in good processing practices.
Ground Yellow Corn is the entire corn kernel, ground or chopped. While the whole corn kernel is nutritious and supplies whole grain nutrition, corn is considered to be highly allergenic and difficult for dogs to digest.
Dried Beet Pulp is the dried residue from sugar beets, which has been cleaned, freed from crowns, leaves, and sand, and extracted in the process of manufacturing sugar. Dried beet pulp is added to some pet foods to act as a fibrous stool hardener.
Fish Meal: The clean, rendered, dried ground tissue of undecomposed whole fish or fish cuttings, either or both, with or without the extraction of part of the oil. Unless the manufacturer either presents a permit or states "human grade" fish or fish meal is used, you can be pretty sure Ethoxyquin is present in the food even if it is not listed.
Salt: While salt is a necessary mineral, it is also generally present in sufficient quantities in the ingredients pet foods include. Just like for humans, too much sodium intake is unhealthy for animals. In poor quality foods it is often used in large amounts to add flavor and make the food more interesting.
Canidae All Life Stages:
Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Herring Meal, Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Dried Enterococcus Faecium, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.
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Pet Food Direct Prices: 20lb Bag
Iams: $21.29
Canidae: $20.99
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Maybe it's just me, but I really believe that if you can't afford to feed your dog properly, you can't afford to have a dog. It's great that you came here for help, but don't expect everyone to throw a pity party for you, because it just won't happen. I'm not trying to be rude or anything, this is just something that really bothers me. It's kind of like what some people do with kids...but I won't even go there
Good luck on your hunt for new food. I hope you make a good decision
Good luck on your hunt for new food. I hope you make a good decision
Maybe it's just me, but I really believe that if you can't afford to feed your dog properly, you can't afford to have a dog. It's great that you came here for help, but don't expect everyone to throw a pity party for you, because it just won't happen. I'm not trying to be rude or anything, this is just something that really bothers me. It's kind of like what some people do with kids...but I won't even go there
Good luck on your hunt for new food. I hope you make a good decision
Good luck on your hunt for new food. I hope you make a good decision
My thoughts exactly. people gave you good choices. Now let me ask you, yorkies are expensive dogs, and you have had two of them. You can afford a yorkie but not feed it well? Yorkies have long hair , ol'roy will just give it crappy hair...you may not notice it now, but you will over time.
Everyone--stop flaming the OP. She needs to be educated, not scolded!
PuppyPalace, just an FYI:
Ol' Roy Kibbles, Chunks, and Chews:
Ingredients:
Ground yellow corn, soybean meal, ground whole wheat, corn syrup, poultry fat, Meat and bone meal (Animal Fat Preserved with BHA and Citric Acid), Chicken by-product Meal, Rice, Animal Digest, Salt, Calcium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin D and E Supplement, Niacin, Copper Sulafate, Manganous Oxide, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex Source of Vitamin K, Calcium Iodate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Cobalt Carbonate, Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite, Folic Acid
Ground Yellow Corn is the entire corn kernel, ground or chopped. While the whole corn kernel is nutritious and supplies whole grain nutrition, corn is considered to be highly allergenic and difficult for dogs to digest.
Soybean meal is a poor quality protein filler used to boost the protein content of low quality pet foods. Has a biologic value lof ess than 50% of chicken meal.
Corn Syrup: Sugar or sweetener is an absolutely unnecessary ingredient in pet foods, added to make the product more attractive. Continuous intake can promote hypoglycemia, obesity, nervousness, cataracts, tooth decay, arthritis and allergies. Pets also get addicted to foods that contain sugars, so it can be a tough piece of work to make them eat something healthier.
Poultry fat: Note how in this product the source is not defined as "slaughtered poultry". The rendered fowl can be obtained from any source, so there is no control over quality or contamination. Any kind of animal can be included: "4-D animals" (dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter), turkey, chicken, geese, buzzard, seagulls, misc. roadkill, birds euthanized at shelters and so on.
Meat and Bone Meal: The animal parts used can be obtained from any source, so there is no control over quality or contamination. Any kind of animal can be included: "4-D animals" (dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter), goats, pigs, horses, rats, misc. roadkill, animals euthanized at shelters and so on. It can also include pus, cancerous tissue, and decomposed (spoiled) tissue.
BHA: Banned from human use in many countries but still permitted in the US. Possible human carcinogen, apparently carcinogenic in animal experiments. The oxidative characteristics and/or metabolites of BHA and BHT may contribute to carcinogenicity or tumorigenicity.
Chicken By-Product Meal: Chicken byproducts are much less expensive and less digestible than the chicken muscle meat.The ingredients of each batch can vary drastically in ingredients (heads, feet, bones etc.) as well as quality, thus the nutritional value is also not consistent. Don't forget that byproducts consist of any parts of the animal OTHER than meat. If there is any use for any part of the animal that brings more profit than selling it as "byproduct", rest assured it will appear in such a product rather than in the "byproduct" dumpster.
Animal Digest:
A cooked-down broth made from unspecified parts of unspecified animals. The animals used can be obtained from any source, so there is no control over quality or contamination. Any kind of animal can be included: "4-D animals" (dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter), goats, pigs, horses, rats, misc. roadkill, animals euthanized at shelters, restaurant and supermarket refuse and so on.
Salt: While salt is a necessary mineral, it is also generally present in sufficient quantities in the ingredients pet foods include. Just like for humans, too much sodium intake is unhealthy for animals. In poor quality foods it is often used in large amounts to add flavor and make the food more interesting.
Menadione: Toxic. See http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=menadione for more information.
Ol' Roy also contains chemical dyes. Why do dogs need dyes in their food?!
Canidae All Life Stages:
Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Herring Meal, Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Dried Enterococcus Faecium, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.
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Ol' Roy Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude protein: 21%
Crude fat: 8%
Crude fiber: 4%
Moisture: 18%
Canidae Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude protein: 24%
Crude fat: 14.5%
Crude fiber: 4%
Moisture: 10%
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I just spent an hour looking for caloric density information for Ol' Roy and I couldn't find anything useful.
Ol' Roy reads like a "Who's Who" of horrible, nutritionless ingredients. Sorry,bt that is fact.
PuppyPalace, just an FYI:
Ol' Roy Kibbles, Chunks, and Chews:
Ingredients:
Ground yellow corn, soybean meal, ground whole wheat, corn syrup, poultry fat, Meat and bone meal (Animal Fat Preserved with BHA and Citric Acid), Chicken by-product Meal, Rice, Animal Digest, Salt, Calcium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin D and E Supplement, Niacin, Copper Sulafate, Manganous Oxide, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex Source of Vitamin K, Calcium Iodate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Cobalt Carbonate, Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite, Folic Acid
Ground Yellow Corn is the entire corn kernel, ground or chopped. While the whole corn kernel is nutritious and supplies whole grain nutrition, corn is considered to be highly allergenic and difficult for dogs to digest.
Soybean meal is a poor quality protein filler used to boost the protein content of low quality pet foods. Has a biologic value lof ess than 50% of chicken meal.
Corn Syrup: Sugar or sweetener is an absolutely unnecessary ingredient in pet foods, added to make the product more attractive. Continuous intake can promote hypoglycemia, obesity, nervousness, cataracts, tooth decay, arthritis and allergies. Pets also get addicted to foods that contain sugars, so it can be a tough piece of work to make them eat something healthier.
Poultry fat: Note how in this product the source is not defined as "slaughtered poultry". The rendered fowl can be obtained from any source, so there is no control over quality or contamination. Any kind of animal can be included: "4-D animals" (dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter), turkey, chicken, geese, buzzard, seagulls, misc. roadkill, birds euthanized at shelters and so on.
Meat and Bone Meal: The animal parts used can be obtained from any source, so there is no control over quality or contamination. Any kind of animal can be included: "4-D animals" (dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter), goats, pigs, horses, rats, misc. roadkill, animals euthanized at shelters and so on. It can also include pus, cancerous tissue, and decomposed (spoiled) tissue.
BHA: Banned from human use in many countries but still permitted in the US. Possible human carcinogen, apparently carcinogenic in animal experiments. The oxidative characteristics and/or metabolites of BHA and BHT may contribute to carcinogenicity or tumorigenicity.
Chicken By-Product Meal: Chicken byproducts are much less expensive and less digestible than the chicken muscle meat.The ingredients of each batch can vary drastically in ingredients (heads, feet, bones etc.) as well as quality, thus the nutritional value is also not consistent. Don't forget that byproducts consist of any parts of the animal OTHER than meat. If there is any use for any part of the animal that brings more profit than selling it as "byproduct", rest assured it will appear in such a product rather than in the "byproduct" dumpster.
Animal Digest:
A cooked-down broth made from unspecified parts of unspecified animals. The animals used can be obtained from any source, so there is no control over quality or contamination. Any kind of animal can be included: "4-D animals" (dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter), goats, pigs, horses, rats, misc. roadkill, animals euthanized at shelters, restaurant and supermarket refuse and so on.
Salt: While salt is a necessary mineral, it is also generally present in sufficient quantities in the ingredients pet foods include. Just like for humans, too much sodium intake is unhealthy for animals. In poor quality foods it is often used in large amounts to add flavor and make the food more interesting.
Menadione: Toxic. See http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=menadione for more information.
Ol' Roy also contains chemical dyes. Why do dogs need dyes in their food?!
Canidae All Life Stages:
Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Herring Meal, Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Dried Enterococcus Faecium, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.
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Ol' Roy Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude protein: 21%
Crude fat: 8%
Crude fiber: 4%
Moisture: 18%
Canidae Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude protein: 24%
Crude fat: 14.5%
Crude fiber: 4%
Moisture: 10%
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I just spent an hour looking for caloric density information for Ol' Roy and I couldn't find anything useful.
Ol' Roy reads like a "Who's Who" of horrible, nutritionless ingredients. Sorry,bt that is fact.
Herschel,
I feed my puppy Canidae All Life Stages now but I started him off on Nutro Lamb & Rice for puppies. I switched him after reading what a lot of people had to say in this forum. He was doing great though on the Nutro ...
What exactly is it about the Nutro that you do not care for? I read the label well and couldn't find anything offensive and the protein content was acutally slightly more I think than the Canidae. Is it ALL Nutro or just certain ones because like I said the puppy stuff seemed to be good. I did a label comparison and I just don't see such a wide disparity as everyone seems to say there is.
As far as price, I think it is about the same or within a few dollars of each other.
Puppy Palace,
I do agree with the philosophy that it is important to feed your dog a quality dog food and that like children, this will pay off for you in the future. You can feed you kids ( or yourself for that matter) food that is of poor quality and nutritionally unsound and they may appear to be doing well, no loose stools, vomiting, and they eat well. But, down the road, they will pay a price in poor health - heart disease, diabetes, rotton teeth, intestinal disorders, and on, and on, and on. It's the same with pets, of course.
Having pets, like having children, requires a lot of responsibility, commitment, and sacrifice. Many of us do not deliberate this enough before we go and do it. We held off for a long time in getting a dog because of the financial sacrifice we would have to make (not to mention the time). Food, health care, neuter/spay, preventive meds, supplies, - the list goes on....
I do believe that anyone who would take the time to find this forum and talk with other pet owners cares about their pet. I find these discussions very enlightening and helpful and a great resource as I'm sure you do. Good Luck with your food hunt!!
I feed my puppy Canidae All Life Stages now but I started him off on Nutro Lamb & Rice for puppies. I switched him after reading what a lot of people had to say in this forum. He was doing great though on the Nutro ...
What exactly is it about the Nutro that you do not care for? I read the label well and couldn't find anything offensive and the protein content was acutally slightly more I think than the Canidae. Is it ALL Nutro or just certain ones because like I said the puppy stuff seemed to be good. I did a label comparison and I just don't see such a wide disparity as everyone seems to say there is.
As far as price, I think it is about the same or within a few dollars of each other.
Puppy Palace,
I do agree with the philosophy that it is important to feed your dog a quality dog food and that like children, this will pay off for you in the future. You can feed you kids ( or yourself for that matter) food that is of poor quality and nutritionally unsound and they may appear to be doing well, no loose stools, vomiting, and they eat well. But, down the road, they will pay a price in poor health - heart disease, diabetes, rotton teeth, intestinal disorders, and on, and on, and on. It's the same with pets, of course.
Having pets, like having children, requires a lot of responsibility, commitment, and sacrifice. Many of us do not deliberate this enough before we go and do it. We held off for a long time in getting a dog because of the financial sacrifice we would have to make (not to mention the time). Food, health care, neuter/spay, preventive meds, supplies, - the list goes on....
I do believe that anyone who would take the time to find this forum and talk with other pet owners cares about their pet. I find these discussions very enlightening and helpful and a great resource as I'm sure you do. Good Luck with your food hunt!!
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Alot of you have been very rude so if your going to be rude i will have no respect for your "judgements". Because honestly if this is how you act to people i'm sorry to see how your poor animals live. This is not LA or CA, we don't spend outragous prices for "ANIMALS". Yes i paid alot for my Yorkie but thats none of your buissness! For eating healthy i have owned my yorkie since 6mons and she now almost 4 and i feed Dad's Dog Food.
If you want to comment call 1-800-I don't give a crap! She's never been sick and no matter what those of you think Dad's dog food has been around for many more years than the "better" foods. Either way you look at it your trying to look down to those that don't treat there's animals like the lord. No i will not take rude comments or somebody down grading me or how i treat my animals. I have other things to deal with than spend $50 for stupid dog food when my dog rather have my dinner.
Another thing about i don't care about taking my animals to the vet... thats a ugly mouth you got there!
Now that i'm done venting from everybody's stuck up comments and treating me like i'm 4 and should look in the mirror. I did go to the store and buy Chicken Soup For The Puppy Lovers Soul.
If you want to comment call 1-800-I don't give a crap! She's never been sick and no matter what those of you think Dad's dog food has been around for many more years than the "better" foods. Either way you look at it your trying to look down to those that don't treat there's animals like the lord. No i will not take rude comments or somebody down grading me or how i treat my animals. I have other things to deal with than spend $50 for stupid dog food when my dog rather have my dinner.
Another thing about i don't care about taking my animals to the vet... thats a ugly mouth you got there!
Now that i'm done venting from everybody's stuck up comments and treating me like i'm 4 and should look in the mirror. I did go to the store and buy Chicken Soup For The Puppy Lovers Soul.
For all interested parties (and myself since I have never even heard of Dad's Dog Food), here are the ingredients:
INGREDIENTS
Corn, Meat & Bone Meal, Chicken By-Product Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Animal Fat (Preserved with BHA), Rice, Flaxseed, Oatmeal (Source of Soluble Oat Fiber), Poultry Digest, Beet Pulp, Salt, Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Iron Oxide, Vitamin E Supplement, Choline Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (Source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Vitamin A Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Menadione Dimethylpyrimidinol BisulfIte (Source of Vitamin K Activity), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Sulfate, Folic Acid.
Many people say that most health problems caused from food do not arise in dogs until they are the age of 7... the dog can seem fine and healthy right now, but they can get very sick from low quality dog foods.
Dogs are meant to be carnavores... their bodies are not designed to digest corn (which isn't even a digestible material in it's raw state).
In most cases, you can look at a dog and tell what they are being fed. Last night, I saw a yorkie with the greasiest coat, runny eyes, and she smelled... she is fed Science Diet.
I don't know about you, but I know that I spent $15 a couple of days ago at the movie threatre... and I picked up some take out food for lunch today... I spend about $10 a month on dog food for my 3 dogs... which is far less than it costs to go to a movie or dinner. I would spend much more than that on dogs if I had to, though, because I feel that dogs should be fed a good diet.
Good luck with the new food
INGREDIENTS
Corn, Meat & Bone Meal, Chicken By-Product Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Animal Fat (Preserved with BHA), Rice, Flaxseed, Oatmeal (Source of Soluble Oat Fiber), Poultry Digest, Beet Pulp, Salt, Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Iron Oxide, Vitamin E Supplement, Choline Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (Source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Vitamin A Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Menadione Dimethylpyrimidinol BisulfIte (Source of Vitamin K Activity), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Sulfate, Folic Acid.
Many people say that most health problems caused from food do not arise in dogs until they are the age of 7... the dog can seem fine and healthy right now, but they can get very sick from low quality dog foods.
Dogs are meant to be carnavores... their bodies are not designed to digest corn (which isn't even a digestible material in it's raw state).
In most cases, you can look at a dog and tell what they are being fed. Last night, I saw a yorkie with the greasiest coat, runny eyes, and she smelled... she is fed Science Diet.
I don't know about you, but I know that I spent $15 a couple of days ago at the movie threatre... and I picked up some take out food for lunch today... I spend about $10 a month on dog food for my 3 dogs... which is far less than it costs to go to a movie or dinner. I would spend much more than that on dogs if I had to, though, because I feel that dogs should be fed a good diet.
Good luck with the new food