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Old 08-25-2005, 01:02 AM
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Backyard breeders-probably love the dogs but again it is all about the money. They usually show abit more concern about what they are breeding, often no health checks are done on the parents and usually no guarantees are given or rediculous guarantees. They often breed mutts but not always. They often are more interested in lining their pockets than the dogs. No contracts, no questionnaires, no follow ups...
ok, not disagreeign, just like to add my bit.
ok, so i am guilty, my family has bred our dog before, but it was NOT for the money, we sold the pups for $50 because that is what we bought Martha for. Also, we did follow up the pups, my mother knew who had bought them and we did see the puppies as dogs, it was great for my sister and I as we learned a LOT about young puppy care at only about 6 and 8.
We were careful all the puppies went to good homes.

I just wanted to say, not all bakyard breeders are trying for the money, we did it beacause we wanted to cary on Martha's line and because we think every dog hould have puppies. We were going to let Sophie have pups because we wanted another Sophie, another lovely girl to keep forever.

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Old 08-25-2005, 07:37 AM
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ok, not disagreeign, just like to add my bit.
ok, so i am guilty, my family has bred our dog before, but it was NOT for the money, we sold the pups for $50 because that is what we bought Martha for. Also, we did follow up the pups, my mother knew who had bought them and we did see the puppies as dogs, it was great for my sister and I as we learned a LOT about young puppy care at only about 6 and 8.
We were careful all the puppies went to good homes.

I just wanted to say, not all bakyard breeders are trying for the money, we did it beacause we wanted to cary on Martha's line and because we think every dog hould have puppies. We were going to let Sophie have pups because we wanted another Sophie, another lovely girl to keep forever.

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Every dog should have puppies? Is that what you are saying? Well not going to argue with you but I strongly disagree with that. A female dog is not abused or lacking if they do not have puppies. Personally I think anyone breeding mutts for any reason is adding to the unwanted mutt population out there. I will simply agree to disagree with you because we just have a different opinion here. I certainly can understand wanting to keep a part of a beloved pet alive.



Since I have been trying to rescue a purebreed gsd and I see the gasing that takes place with these wonderful dogs; I just can't understand why someone would want to breed mutts and add to that.
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:29 AM
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Every dog should not have puppies! Hello! Why do you think they should?
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:40 AM
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Well i dont think I can add anything, you all have said it all, i agree with most on here, but the bit every dog should have puppys? Please explain????
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:10 AM
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ok, not disagreeign, just like to add my bit.
ok, so i am guilty, my family has bred our dog before, but it was NOT for the money, we sold the pups for $50 because that is what we bought Martha for. Also, we did follow up the pups, my mother knew who had bought them and we did see the puppies as dogs, it was great for my sister and I as we learned a LOT about young puppy care at only about 6 and 8.
We were careful all the puppies went to good homes.

I just wanted to say, not all bakyard breeders are trying for the money, we did it beacause we wanted to cary on Martha's line and because we think every dog hould have puppies. We were going to let Sophie have pups because we wanted another Sophie, another lovely girl to keep forever.

thabks for reading
Woa, woa, woa.......

Hate to break the news to ya, but you won't get another Sophie! Sophie is Sophie and she's unique, her puppy may vary greatly in personality and temperment AND looks!

Every dog should be bred? Boy, I wonder what the shelters would look like if this took place....so sad
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:12 AM
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Woa, woa, woa.......

Hate to break the news to ya, but you won't get another Sophie! Sophie is Sophie and she's unique, her puppy may vary greatly in personality and temperment AND looks!

Every dog should be bred? Boy, I wonder what the shelters would look like if this took place....so sad

That was my exact feelings but I was trying to be polite in my wording. Poor dogs unwanted and being gased and PTS in shelters and why? Because every dog should have puppies.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:52 AM
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many backyard breeders do it for just that reason. they are not looking for a profit or get rich quick scheme. they do it because they are horribly misguided and think that every female should have a litter before being spayed. they think that their dog is perfect in every way and the epitome of what its breed should be. of course we all love our dogs, but that is not justification to breed. or they think that everyone would like a dog just like fluffy. well, the pups will not be just like fluffy, their is no reason to believe that every bitch needs to have (or benifits in the slightest from) atleast on litter before being spayed.
there are so many things you have to do to prove a dog is qualified for breeding. dozens of health and temperament tests at least, tons of vet bills during pregnancy and birthing not to mention while the pups are growing. then theres the chance of losing the bitch because of complications, and the entire litter. garauntees on the puppies. finding good homes and interviewing the potential buyers. contracts with the buyers. you must be able to, and demand that if the buyer for any reason cannot keep the puppy YOU will take it back, no matter what the reason or age of the dog.
anyone who does not do any AND all of those is a back yard breeder. they, in my opinion, should also have titles on both of the parents. I dont mind if the breeder owns both the stud and the bitch as long as there is a good reason why they chose that match, rather than another stud.
a puppy mill is someone who breeds for profit with no care what so ever as to the conditions of the dogs. they dont test the parents, they dont properly care for the parents, all the dogs are kept in horrible conditions, and most of the time they sell to pet stores.
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:50 AM
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A friend of my mums has just bred her boxer, she said she was worried about her the whole time, and she does care for her well, but she said that she is going to bred her Boxer to a ridgeback next time coz her dog is in love with him! (Bash's head on PC)
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Old 08-26-2005, 06:56 AM
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ok, not disagreeign, just like to add my bit.
ok, so i am guilty, my family has bred our dog before, but it was NOT for the money, we sold the pups for $50 because that is what we bought Martha for. Also, we did follow up the pups, my mother knew who had bought them and we did see the puppies as dogs, it was great for my sister and I as we learned a LOT about young puppy care at only about 6 and 8.
We were careful all the puppies went to good homes.

I just wanted to say, not all bakyard breeders are trying for the money, we did it beacause we wanted to cary on Martha's line and because we think every dog hould have puppies. We were going to let Sophie have pups because we wanted another Sophie, another lovely girl to keep forever.

thabks for reading

I totally agree with showpugs. Heck, even if you CLONED your dog, it wouldn't be the same dog, because their character depends on their experiences (like us). Every dog should have puppies? Get real, and open your eyes and go look at petfinder to see how happy those dogs are that their parent owners bred them
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Old 08-26-2005, 08:53 AM
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A friend of my mums has just bred her boxer, she said she was worried about her the whole time, and she does care for her well, but she said that she is going to bred her Boxer to a ridgeback next time coz her dog is in love with him! (Bash's head on PC)
Well, transfering that rationale to humans, I really need to get in touch with Mel Gibson.

Good grief, has your mom's friend never heard of the concept of instinct? Her Boxer's going to be "in love" a lot, doesn't mean they NEED to have puppies to be fulfilled in life.

Breeding a dog for the fun of it, or because they "need" to have a litter is SO not a good idea.

My dog had a passionate love affair going with one of my daughter's Beanie Babies before he was neutered. He still likes her as a friend, but the passion's gone out of the relationship.
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