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Old 04-07-2009, 06:46 PM
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thats what im trying to get her to do i told her to make sure she saves for it and go see the vet for a xray or ultrasound how ever they do it with dogs to see how many pups if any, and if they are going to be too big for her to deliver safely which i know they will be.

that way she can hear it from her vet maybe that way she will wake up a bit do you know how long before she needs to wait before she can take the dog in for that??
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:55 PM
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This is such a shame !!!!
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:23 PM
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at 1 wek after tie those pups arnt even viable yet...and with both a young inexperienced male and a young inexperienced female im Praying to all the gods that will listen that this breeding did NOT take.
your friend is more than stubborn she is STUPID.
i cannot imagine anyone who truly cared about their dog purposly putting their animals life at risk simply because they dont like the idea of abortion and some site says 8 months is fine...
sounds to me like she WANTS the puppies...

what she doesnt seem to realize is if the pregnancy doesnt kill her girl, the delivery will...

palipitation is difficult in chis as there so tiny, she needs to call the vet and have the receptionist check with the vet there, some are comfortable doing it earlier than others...
she needs to go in for a palipitation as soon as the vet says possible...the vet will feel around to see if theres any lumps (pups) after that its a couple more weeks before xrays and ultrasounds can be done...

ill continue to pray to whoever will listen that her vet can talk some sense into this girl...
shes PURPOSLY and KNOWINGLY killing this little dog if she lets this pregnancy go to term...how can anyone say they love their pet and allow this to happen. breeding in chis is risky as is...but that tiny.

i know its tough, please keep on at your friend, print out the thread if you have to, im sure we can all provide lots of great links to print out info from too, and hopefully her vet will try and talk her out of letting this happen too...

unfortunatly, beond trying to educate and encoraging her to FREQUENTLY go to the vet...theres not much you can do.
during the whelp if the dog has idfficulty its unlikely youd be able to get a dog that small to an e-clinic fast enough and theres simply no physical way you can manulally help like you could a bigger breed...
even if she did deliver ok, the risk of death in chi pups is high...in pups from a breeding that small, id be suprised if any made it through the delivery let alone days after...

her ONLY chance of this working...and by chance i mean its so minute i would NEVER risk my dogs life over it...is a pre-booked c-section. it is cheaper to pre-book (she will pay almost double if she has to go through the emergency surgery) and the vet will be able to get the pups out quickly with the least stress on the mother and pups systems, AND will be able to get them set up in a sterile environment with heating pads and fluids for mom...
even in that situation though, theres a VERY high chance of still loosing all the pups AND the mother.

theres NO reason this should have happend...shes had the male for how long and hes still intact?

thank you for trying though!
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:45 AM
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This whole situation is why I get so angry when inexperienced people take on a toy breed! There is just so much more to have to watch out for!!!
This person is going to kill her dog, she will have blood on her hands!!!!!!
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:49 AM
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This whole situation is why I get so angry when inexperienced people take on a toy breed! There is just so much more to have to watch out for!!!
This person is going to kill her dog, she will have blood on her hands!!!!!!
well this is my first chihuahua so i am inexperienced but i am on here everyday learning everything i can to make sure i give the best possible life to my pup.

to say that is really not fair......yes what she did was irresponsible and i am trying to make her see that before it's too late by educating her and supporting with whatever choice she makes!!

to say she will have blood on her hands is a little harsh and hard for me too read i am asking for help so i can support her not any negativity like that.

im sorry if i sound mean or anything but to read that upset me a lot as im sure this situation is hard to swallow for a lot of you but my hands are tied and i would like support and advice on how to support her that's all.
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:36 AM
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If someone knowingly kills their dog.. how do they NOT have blood on their hands? I can see if they honestly don't know. But if you tell her all these things, and she does a bit of research and still kills her dog.

Sorry if it sounds negative or harsh. But sometimes reality is harsh.
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:43 AM
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If someone knowingly kills their dog.. how do they NOT have blood on their hands? I can see if they honestly don't know. But if you tell her all these things, and she does a bit of research and still kills her dog.

Sorry if it sounds negative or harsh. But sometimes reality is harsh.


While I dont fully agree with PuppyDogs statement... inexperienced people can take on any kind of dog as long as they are willing to educate themselves properly... her part about your friend having blood on her hands is spot on.

If you choose to take on an unaltered female and male and keep them in the same house, it is your responsibility to ensure they dont mate (unless of course your a breeder).

Why in the world would she have brought two unaltered chi's into her house if she wasnt ready to take on the responsibility. Now she is against abortion and is in the end going to probably kill all dogs involved... she has to take responsibility for this... who else is going to?!

She probably thinks she can sell these "teacup" chis and make money well you dont make money off of dead dogs and she needs to know that.

There isnt a nice way to say it.
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:58 AM
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I can't imagine how tiny those pups would be !
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:27 PM
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i really don't know maybe she is just trying to be optimistic and praying that god will take care of her dog and she will be spared for abiding by the commandment " thow shall not kill"
as silly as that might sound it could be how she is thinking.

labor is scary with anyone or any animal i almost died giving birth to my forth child and i never had any problems before that.

it happens i know and cause of it i never want to do it again.........

now her reasons for keeping this possible pregnancy is just that..... hers and we cant really do anything about it but hope and pray ourselves that
1.. she make the right choice.
2..god protects this poor dog

i have to as a friend support her even if i don't agree.
I know you can't believe everything you read on the internet.
I know it's dangerous for that pup to have these babies.
I know she can die before she even delivers.
I know how sensitive the puppies are going to be and the mother even after birth.
I know about all the problems newborn chihuahua's can be born with.
I know that a pregnant chihuahua needs special diets while pregnant and after.

i know all this stuff because i have tried to educated myself about it as much as i can so i can help her because she works and i don't.
i am doing this cause i care about her and her dog and i wish i could do more but i don't know what to do???
i don't have the money to be offering out for a e-spay as i am a single income home and i have 4 kids and a dog i have to worry about myself and my pup and my kids come first.

i have contacted a pet nurse so she can assist IF she chooses not to pre book a c-section so someone other then myself and her can be there who knows what to do and what to look for cause i also don't live close so if i cant make it i don't want her to be alone.

this is why as a last resort so if all else fails and she doesn't listen to me i want to know what she needs to look for and how to know something is wrong before birth or during whelping.

so if someone can tell me so i can tell her when the time comes that would be great even though i know you all feel a e-spay is her best choice or if that's not an option a pre booked c-section.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:41 PM
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Just curious.. what is a 'pet nurse'?
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