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Old 02-02-2009, 10:30 PM
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"A pup of six months will still challenge you and other members of the family for the top dog position."

Please read this after you eat your popcorn: http://www.give-a-dog-a-name.com/pup...al-stages.html
There are many reputable articles online about this (that one was the 1st one I found) that talk about it. And please, bring more of your expert friends over. It makes it more fun since they like to gang up and attack like sharks sensing blood on anything someone says that doesn't have above 1,000 posts. Pretty pathetic.
Posting one link that says that a dog will challenge you for alpha doesn't make it correct. I can also post links that contradict your link. Look!

http://www.clickersolutions.com/arti.../dominance.htm

Oh wait, doesn't Cesar Milan teach the "be the alpha dog" theory? I hear people aren't too fond of his methods lately. Because, y'know. They don't work except on edited television shows.

You can search this very forum for all sorts of info on that, so I won't bother with links. Links are silly. Anyone can post a link that proves anything. That's the magic of the internet! "THIS IS TRUE LOOK A WEBSITE THAT PROVES IT" etc.
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:33 PM
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"A pup of six months will still challenge you and other members of the family for the top dog position."

Please read this after you eat your popcorn: http://www.give-a-dog-a-name.com/pup...al-stages.html
There are many reputable articles online about this (that one was the 1st one I found) that talk about it. And please, bring more of your expert friends over. It makes it more fun since they like to gang up and attack like sharks sensing blood on anything someone says that doesn't have above 1,000 posts. Pretty pathetic.
Has nothing to do with post count, and everything to do with typing absolutely moronic things and being rude.

Dogs do what works. If you let a dog pull they start to think that pulling is what gets them from point A to B. It's taught, it's not a matter of being an alpha anything.

So yes, I sure will go back to my popcorn and watch you continue to be rude to other member and write assine things like cropping causes dogs to be anxious and vicious. You continue to write bad advice, you probably will feel ganged up on. Use google for good.. not for evil.
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:34 PM
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I've been attacked and I am over 1,000..

Rofl rofl rofl
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:38 PM
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<watches as sharks start to circle>

And if you shove a dog's head underwater... it'll no longer dig in your yard.
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I've been attacked and I am over 1,000..

Rofl rofl rofl
You must have done something really bad, like killed someone.
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:39 PM
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And please, bring more of your expert friends over. It makes it more fun since they like to gang up and attack like sharks sensing blood on anything someone says that doesn't have above 1,000 posts. Pretty pathetic.
This is fantastic. Because, uh... as of this post, you have more posts than me. But I am a respected and valued member of this community. And I sure don't kiss ass, I voice my opinion when I feel it's merited.

At what point will you finally realize that you are causing your own problem?
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You must have done something really bad, like killed someone.
Geesh! Who do you think I am??
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:44 PM
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Xena pulls. She can pull a tank out of the mud, I think. It's not because she's trying to be dominant with me. If she was trying that, there would be other behaviors akin to that. She simply likes to pull on the leash because it gets her what she wants. I'm working on it with her. Yanking her leash or punishing the pulling in some way does not work. What does work is rewarding the good behavior. I've seen it with her. She doesn't pull nearly as much when I walk her now even when I'm not carrying treats. Eventually it will sink in, I'm sure of it.
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my black lab is 6 mo. old today! anyway, i've been having some trouble walking him. he understands the 'heel' position while walking or standing, but when walking (both on and off leash), i've got to remind him every 5 seconds. if there is nothing happening, he walks perfectly at my side. but if he picks up a scent or there's a noise in the distance, he starts speeding up . constantly. are there any specific training methods or techniques you guys would recommend to keep him focused on me and where he is in relation to me, regardless of what else might be going on? do you suppose the regular walk/jog has gotten too boring? thanks for any input.
I agree with the others - start with fewer distractions and build the distraction level gradually.... And increase your rate of reinforcement when the dog is in a very distracting environment (he does not have to walk as nicely or walk nicely for as long to earn a reward). If he does get out of position, I find inside turns effective - make a 180 or 360 degree turn around with your dog on the inside of the circle. This way while you're both turning, his vision is blocked by you.... Usually this gets their attention back to you.
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:56 PM
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It is easy to see when people teach pups or dogs to pull, just watch anyone that doesn't have much understanding or knowledge and they often have a strangle hold on their pup. Absolutely it is a learned behaviour.
What is interesting is how people with knowledge and ultra aware hands can take any puppy and that pup will never pull on leash.
Also take that person with the knowledge and skill and watch them take a pulling dog and within minutes WITHOUT corrections, have that dog in a loose leash heel with distractions and WITHOUT holding a treat on the end of the dog's nose..........interesting.

To the OP, since this has gotten off topic a little bit, one thing that is important is to not let the pup forge forward, stop them before they get that far out. Bring them back, nicely and then when they are walking on a loose leash (that doesn't mean you hold the leash at the end, loose but able to take up the slack when needed) reward. I don't reward after I have to bring them back to me, but when they are walking nicely.
You have to train yourself to be ultra aware of your leash, one fun and good method is to have a friend or family member hold the other end of the leash. Each play the part of a pulling dog/pup, learn to become aware when the slack of the leash is STARTING to be tightened, not when it is tight. This includes, forward, bearing out and lagging behind.

Good luck and I hope that helps.
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