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Old 12-05-2008, 06:19 PM
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Default The preservation of the pure bred dog..

To those of us that follow that premis, to get the best, to reduce physical problems in the breed, we are obligated to show the best to the best, and breed the best to the best- otherwise we are nothing more than what we abhore in breeding whatever to whatever.. To reduce problems in the breed, we as breeders should only breed the best with no health problems otherwise we are no different than someone throwing two dogs together to make pups..
Soooooooo tell me. .. If a sire and dam both hadthis defect, knowing it ran in the breed, would you breed it???? " DEGENERATIVE JOINT DISEASE I UNILATERAL RIGHT". Knowing the breed could have problems with this- my question is simple- would you breed it? To me its no different than what we condone with breeding a collie with eye problems or certain others with heart disease....
Would you breed it? Dont need to explain it- the question is- would you breed two dogs with a breed defect know in the breed and take the chance..
My answer is no..
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:24 PM
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If they both carried the identical defect for the identical area, no, but there are always going to be mitigating factors that a knowledgeable person has to weigh.

If there were questions about DIFFERENT aspects, I'd have to take into consideration the depth of the gene pool, for one thing, then factor in how dominant or recessive the genes for the faults were and make a judgment call based on those and other factors, looking to pair in order to offset weaknesses in each of the lines I was using and to infuse my line with strengths from each side, both mutual and exclusive.

Nothing is ever absolute.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:24 PM
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We went over this in chat, and it concluded with you implying that a certain well-repected member is not only a bad breeder but is breeding "defective" dogs, and leaving chat because no one wanted to hear this BS. The breeder you are taking an issue with, and her breeding you are referring to, has been discussed MANY, MANY times on this forum and there are AT LEAST ten threads talking about her decision to breed her dogs.

If you have a problem with her, I suggest you take it up with HER rather than making passive-aggressive threads in the hopes of getting what you want when those of us in chat saw through your petty tactics.

ETA: I was just informed that this passive-aggressive BS is not only aimed at one member here, as per the collie comments. I, again, will suggest that you take up your issues with these individuals rather than behaving in such a childish manner.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:26 PM
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We went over this in chat, and it concluded with you implying that a certain well-repected member is not only a bad breeder but is breeding "defective" dogs, and leaving chat because no one wanted to hear this BS. The breeder you are taking an issue with, and her breeding you are referring to, has been discussed MANY, MANY time son this forum and there are AT LEAST ten threads talking about her decision to breed her dogs.

If you have a problem with her, I suggest you take it up with HER rather than making passive-aggressive threads in the hopes of gettign what you want when thos eof us in chat saw through your petty tactics.
exactly

and I have nothing better to say, so im leaving it at that...
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:27 PM
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Apparently no one on this forum are "dog people" and we "won't understand" if we all care to disagree.

Though I prefer to deep fry when battering breeds.
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There is so much to breeding. Do you breed a dog with less drive, do you breed a dog who is a known carrier.

On the surface I would say no. But if the dog is stellar in other ways and the risk is minimal (known to be recessive) and you plan to pick the best pup out of that litter and breed from that one (assuming it is health etc are excellent) then I think its a risk that might be made.

There is no such thing as a perfect dog. Good breeding is an art, and compromises must be made. How far you are willing to compromise is up to each breeder. Some breeders seem to be able to assess risks and make what on the surface seem questionable choices and come out ahead.
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Apparently no one on this forum are "dog people" and we "won't understand" if we all care to disagree.

Though I prefer to deep fry when battering breeds.
dont forget non of us know REAL purebreeds
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If they both carried the same defect, no.
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I would not either.. No way.. to breed a dog with a defect is awful, to breed to another with the same defect is irresponsible.. Femka came out of a low thyroid mother bred to normal father but look what we deal with.. and we love her.. Each breed needs to look to breed " clean to clean" otherwise no different than a puppy mill to me..
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And hey, when the deed is done, the proof is in the puppies
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Coming from the compulsive liar who can't be bothered to back up any of her claims like the fake 17 OTCHes and many SCH3 titles. Sadly, your comments and slander don't hold much weight anymore.
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