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Old 11-11-2008, 02:56 PM
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thanks youbetcha and xpaeanx!
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Old 11-11-2008, 03:12 PM
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I did compliment his jumping. I am not attacking. And yes he does look terrified in the pics. He looks ok in the vid Its a slow but yes happy teeter.

I don't know why you feel attacked. Or why you are so defensive? You don't want to hear the good or the bad from anyone who ACTUALLY does agility. Strange, I love it when people comment on the good and the bad (not just OMG cute.. I like those too but not as much) on my dog's performances. Thats how people learn-you have made it very clear that unless we are telling you how awesome and cute your dog is you just don't want any part of it.

I train with different people with different views because often people who all train together often then produce dogs with the same minor issues.

Your snarky attitude is a little over the top. I have sent you some nice PMs and said nice things. No comments. But as soon as I say I am concerned (and had you simply said "ya beagles look that way.. check out the vid" I would have said ... Oh ya he does look happier in motion) you go postal and turn into a personal attack.

Hmm I guess I see what kind of posts you want. As in none from anyone who actually cares.
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:51 PM
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In fact, I think I'll bring it up tonight at class so we can have a laugh about it. I'm sorry you feel the need to attack other people about agility. But it's a problem you'll have to take elsewhere, as I did not take any psychology courses.
Who needs a psychologist?

As one who compeats in agility, and I most know would as well, LOVE being critiqued by others. No one is perfect, and those who have been doing it for years, a kind word or suggestion is greatly appreciated.

He does look scared in the still pictures, though not in the videos.
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:56 PM
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Dekka, for what it's worth, ol suzzie here was all good and pissed at the instructors the first time she went to agility class back in May of this year.......bc they felt her dog was fat. Wouldn't surprise me that they have learned to not say too much to her, you know the type, bc I certainly do.
Don't worry Suzzie, very evident you don't want advice from anyone, even if it is well intended. Good luck.

I am going to go play with my dog this weekend at another agility trial and I too always look forward to advice and have an open mind when someone points something out.
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Old 11-11-2008, 10:10 PM
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Dude, he/she/it DOES look scared. I don't do agility and I can tell that.

Suzz, get real now, she was trying to offer you ADVICE, and you say SHE is attacking you?

And to imply that Dekka needs a psychologist, how **** rude can you be? She was trying to help, and your being a snoot about it.

Pull up your big girl panties and act like a woman, would ya?
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:13 PM
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He is SOOOO cute!!!! Thanks for sharing!
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Old 11-12-2008, 03:20 AM
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I agree, the well intended advice from someone more advanced then you should always be welcome!
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:11 AM
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Cute dog, nice pics... but whoa *** making note to self be careful not to offer Suzzie any advice, ever***

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He was TERRIFIED of the teeter... amazing what hot dogs can do....)
I think Dekka was simply concerned that he was NOT over it, all you had to do was say "Thanks for your concern, but he is not scared he just *looks* that way, post your video and if you don't want advice politely say so.
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:09 AM
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unfortunately, speaking with dekka is a lot like talking to a rock. I've actually enjoyed her other posts on other subjects. But the "you don't know what you're doing attitude and I'm the agility goddess" thing has soured me entirely. You can only take so much before you break. Clearly I stated that the dog now loves the teeter. I just KNEW as soon as I posted agility pics negative things would start pouring in, but I figured I'd give it a shot. I thought, well, it's a HUGE part of our lives, I'll share it with these folks I chat to all the time, I'm sure nobody will start harping on me as in the past. Well, lesson learned. Burned twice. I will never post anything remotely connected with agility here again. Apparently I'm a dumbass who is lucky enough to tie her shoes without drooling all over herself.

I used to not mind agility advice - in FACT, I SOUGHT IT OUT HERE, as you'll see if you do a little research and look back on the agility board, where I was attacked like i'm some kind of schmuck for practicing several times a day and owning my own equipment. You ruined it for me. I have plenty of other observations, casual questions, etc that I would love to post - but it was ruined for me. I usually post agility stuff in other forums now - where, by the way, I do NOT get attacked or made to feel like the worst dog owner that ever lived. My agility instructors, who are extremely pleased with me and my dog's progress, are now the only people whose advice I am going to take, just because of the constant negativeness I had previously experienced on this forum's agility board. Those individuals are extremely advanced, with at least a couple of agility dogs each and years of teaching experience, and I solicit their advice. I made sure I got all their e-mail addresses so I can contact them easily. When someone tells me they "fear for my dog's safety" that's a slap in my face, and you can bet your boots I'm going to react angrily and harshly. To me, that's a little shy of calling me an animal abuser. Especially when said person has, in the past, already hinted I'm an idiot.

I personally love the comment that because they originally said my dog was fat (no longer do, btw) and it wasn't true, I must not accept any advice? Where's the logic behind that? One instance? Actually, it was also posted that they like dogs positively skinny for agility as it's easier on the joints - which WAS a helpful response to that issue. That makes much more sense to me than merely telling me my dog is fat. Saying, your dog needs to be disgustingly anorexic for agility would have been more constructive and less insulting. CLEARLY, I would not be passing every agility course (going into my fourth one now) if I did not take my instructors' advice now, would I? It's a 100% positive environment that we look forward to going to every week. They have no problem holding people back and repeating a class if they feel they aren't ready to go on.

Ya'll need to learn to wear a velvet glove, particularly when I only wanted to share some photos of my dog and I doing what we love - not be attacked for being a bad dog owner, repeatedly insulted and made to feel like the sport of agility is a hostile environment (do you remember that we got into this sport for the FUN??). Again, twice burned. Don't worry, I'll keep my photos to the other forums. Clearly this is not a place for sharing my joy that I find in my pets. It's a place where we constantly find faults in others (existent or not) and attack them through their dogs. And no - I'm not the only person here that feels this way. I've had private messages and e-mails from several individuals who likewise no longer post about agility and other areas because every little thing is nitpicked and criticized, whether they wanted help or not. I'm sorry, I guess I don't live up to the incredibly high standards of what you consider to be an agility handler (still not really sure what those standards are in your definition), and perhaps I'd be better off sitting on the sofa watching television while my dog amuses himself. It's reached a breaking point to me - this isn't a place where I feel I can share anything about my dogs any longer. Everything I do is wrong. I'm a horrible person. I don't come here to be made to feel like this. I just wanted to show you photos of my dog and the things we do together. I'm sorry I did. I'm sorry I posted how much I liked your dogs, how cute they were... because I get comments like I'm abusing my dog. I love my dogs far more than I love any person on this planet, and these comments have upset me far more than you guys probably realize.

To anyone interested in getting into agility - do so. It's a lot of fun. It's a great bonding experience with your dog, and it makes them exercise their minds as well as their bodies. Find a good club, and you'll have a ball, even if you aren't interested in competing. But limit what you ask in the agility forum here, because they can make you feel like scum. And some folks in the sport are like that. Try to associate yourself with the positive ones, who ARE doing it for fun, who enjoy helping others, not putting them down.
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:12 AM
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Suzzie, i am Sorry you feel that way i do not think it was meant as you took it, However that does not make you feel any better and i am Sorry if I offended you that was not my intent. please continue to share with us i Am Sure no One thinks you are a bad owner and i do hope you continue to share with us! I an at work and typing on my phone so bear with the typos and pun. errors
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