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Old 10-23-2008, 08:01 AM
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Good points BB. And one needs to ask the dog....

If the dog is very happy getting in the crate and settles nicely then I would say the dog is fairly happy. If you have a dog you have to chase around the house to get them in the crate, or one who screams all day long.. then the dog is NOT happy.

Its like doggy daycare. Some of mine would NOT enjoy that at all and would be more content at home in their own crates. The whippets on the other hand would have a BLAST at a daycare.

It really is a case to case basis IMO as to how long is too long.
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Old 10-23-2008, 02:16 PM
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It varies from dog to dog. Ivan loves his crate, to him thats his own private room. And he will let another dog know that that crate is His. Peewee would be miserable in a crate. And if a 75 pound dog does not want to go in a crate, 115 me can't get him in it. I swear he goes from 75 pounds live weight to 175 laying on the floor dead weight, if he doesn't want to do something(going in a crate, in a bathtub). And if all that fails he will let loose the bladder.
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Old 10-23-2008, 02:39 PM
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When I am working my dogs are crated during the day for 8 hrs, the next 8 hrs are spent (depending on the season) either out in the backyard, in the house, training or going places with us and sleeping while we watch t.v etc lol. The next 6 hrs when everyone in the house is in bed, they are sleeping with us, in our beds.
The day around here starts at 6 am, when we get up 3 of the dogs get up with us, the other two stay our under the covers until they hear breakfast being served, eat, go outside, race back in the house right back upstairs, under the covers and back to sleep!!!!!!! I know for a fact that if I leave them there, they wont come down again until noon............now thats a hard life
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Old 10-23-2008, 04:01 PM
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Luckily I never have to crate. They have their "own room". Well its the family room, but there is a t.v, a couch, and dog stuff in there. That is where they (And myself) hang out most of the day (With access to the backyard. ).
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Old 10-23-2008, 07:46 PM
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I believe it's a cultural difference.

I love my crates, and so do the dogs. Ronin adores his crate, he willingly sleeps in it and spends time in it. It's "his space". The girls... well they don't spend their free time hanging out in their crates, but they don't mind them. And it's for their own safety.
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Old 10-23-2008, 08:06 PM
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Thanks for the responses everybody, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought three ours isn't the max for all dogs.
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Old 10-24-2008, 02:55 PM
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I saw that episode and I disagree with her and agree with what has been said here. She always suggests a puppy go out every two hours, I don't know what she suggests they do for housebreaking when they go to work and cannot come home every two hours. I do think it is a cultural difference as I don't recall seeing to many people in the previous seasons using crates. I don't really think she likes them at all but hopefully she will not mention too much about it unless she gets another dog who appears to dislike the crate and will leave dogs happy with the crate alone.
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Old 10-24-2008, 05:52 PM
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Yeah, they don't have many Pit Bulls in the UK. I'd hate to see what she'd recommend to someone like me. LOL
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Old 10-24-2008, 06:54 PM
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Yep, the UK is very anti-crate and pro-BSL, from what I've gathered.

Other than that, Victoria offers the standard, "positive only" advice.

Here is her website and forum, for those who enjoy her belief system and methods:

http://www.victoriastilwell.com/phpBB2/index.php
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