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Old 09-28-2004, 01:07 PM
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THE most wonderful dog I've ever known was a Dobie my brother in law had. They also had 4 children....and it was so amazing..with ALL children. This dog was the very best. Gorgeous....and so easily trained. She would come in the door and stop...and stay, until someone wiped her paws. OH, I LOVED her!! Truly the smartest dog I'd ever been around. One day she saw what I suppose she thought a threat outside their yard...she ran...and believe it or not, she tried to stop at the perimeter, but failed. She was hit by a car. No matter how many dogs I own that I adore........that Dobie was one fabulous dog that you just can't imagine...and just can't duplicate. They tried getting another pup from the same parents. She's nice and loveable........but not the caliber as that first amazing dog. It's a wonder I don't own a Dobe.......I have so much respect for their intelligence...just from that experience. I also favor GSD....they have also exhibited such an intelligence, if bred correctly. German shorthair neighbor has two. They live a bit away, and she is ALWAYS out looking for them. Seems those two are either curious, or wanting to be hunting...but it seems a pain to me. Course, you can't judge just by a couple. I think for either breed.........consider if you have enough time and space. They need both. Also...this neighbor doesn't have children, so I've no idea about the GSP with kids. All I do know from her is they do seem a bit hyper.
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:30 PM
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This is an old topic, but I'll post my opinion anyway.

Personally, I prefer Dobermans. I love the looks of a GSP, but I fell in love with the Dobe temperament. By no means are they independent. Duke will follow me everywhere, and if possible, would like to be touching be at all times. He doesn't usually sleep on the bed, but one night I looked at him the wrong way and before I knew it he was laying on the bed. He loves anyone that pets him, but there's always one person that Dobermans prefer the most. As far as kids go, he loves them. He'll stand there while they hang all over him. However, because I got him from someone who had him for a couple years, and they in turn got him from the shelter, I really don't know his whole history. I do know that he hates any man that walks in the house (and some that aren't). I have to hold his collar while he barks and tried to tear across the floor when the heat/AC guy comes. My neighbor actually walked in the yard once without Duke seeing him, which was a big mistake. He charged him and tried to take a few bites, but I grabbed his lead before he could. This may not be the case for you though if you get a dog that is properly socialized. Also, while he adores any dog that visits the house, or whom he visits at their house, he hates all dogs while out on walks. He was attacked while on a walk once by a black lab, and then attacked again about a month or two later by some sort of beagle mix. He seems to be getting over it, but he's still pretty testy around other dogs. (Offense is the best defense sort of strategy.) Again, get a properly socialized dog and this will not be the case with you. The only problem I could see with the dog park is that whatever happens, your dog will be blamed for starting it. I was at the dog park once and all the dogs were being rather rude about introducing themselves, so Duke voiced his opinion. Occasionally he'd growl and snap, but he'd stop after I called his name. Then a dog walked up to him and just started growling at him, so I left. I knew someone would start complaining about him. (All of the dog park trips were pre-dog attacks by the way.) As far as rescues go, they are great loving dogs. One things I've noticed is that the dogs in rescue recently are either small (45 to 60 pounds) or large (90 to 110 pounds).

Overall, the Doberman is a wonderful breed. Great temperament, great looks, highly intelligent, and a fearless protector.
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Old 11-09-2004, 04:11 PM
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I own three rescued Dobes and they are all great with kids and are a protective and intimidating dog (not one of mine would hurt a flea) and everyone is scared to death of them and thing they are going to rip there leg off
From the sound of it you are looking for a companion which Dobes are they are what I like to call "velcro" dogs they stick to you like glue I am sitting here at my computer and all three are lying right by me one beside, one behind and the other is under my desk and a dog who will protect you and this a Doberman will do thats what they were bred for but more than protect they will intimidate and probably will never have to inforce themselves they are also easily trained, and great with other dogs as long as they are well socialized and the suggestion to get from a rescue is great because mine were all over a year old when I got them and in dire needs of a great human and they let me know every day that they appreciate me saving their lives
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Old 11-16-2004, 07:36 PM
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I know, I know - old thread, but I'd just liek to point out that I read somewhere that dobes were used in developing the GSP... or was it vice versa?

Personally, I'm biased - I love the dobes. Then again, I'm really picky. I own a very drivey, intense dobe, and I know that dobes aren't the breed for everyone. They are extremely fast, strong, powerful, intense little buggers that have a defnite stubborn streak.

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Old 12-23-2004, 06:34 AM
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I have owned 2 GSP's and they were both very different one was from German working lines and the other from USA show lines. I rehomed the german dog and have just lost the other boy to old age. Whether you decide on a Dobe or a GSP remember to get the healthiest dog you can afford. I know of several problems in the Dobe breed but then the GSP's not perfect either. I think what I'm saying is go in with your eyes wide open and a head full of facts, not all breeders will tell you the truth.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:02 PM
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old post but i just found it...Bin (the daddy dog) in my gallery was excellent with 2 footed and 4 footed children..u couldn't ask for a gentler dog..but oh my was he hyper and taught me everything I needed to know about running...after him that is..I got to where I could hurdle chain link fences and the neighbors said...we didn't see no dog but we wondered who in the world was chassing u! We thought u was on fire!!! just thought I would add my 2 cent worth. I have never had any experience with a dobby
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Old 01-29-2005, 07:48 AM
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My Doberman is 18 months old and I can tell you, they are no piece of cake as puppies. They can be very destructive if bored and not given ample exercise. As they grow they continue to need a lot of exercise. They are very, very active dogs, not content to just lie around the house. They're up like a shot at the slightest noise, on a mission at all times to make sure everything is on the up and up. If a dog who cannot relax and let noises outside pass by would make you nervous, a Dobe is not the breed for you. They are also obsessed with their owner and will tend to follow you everywhere. I love that, but some people would be irritated by it.

They do need to be saturated with socialization and obedience training. They take more than your average amount of involvement. They are wonderful dogs and I can't see living without one but be forwarned. I don't think I've had any more affectionate and loyal dog. And he flat out makes me laugh every day. They do the strangest, funniest things. I just think they're the "Cadilac" of dogs.

Puppies are work, a real project. Dobermans are known to tend toward dog aggressiveness, especially same breed/male to male aggressiveness. You never want to have two male Dobermans. So far, my Lyric is not. But he's been in group classes starting when he was very young. I definitely recommend the opposite sex of your other dog. And I would recommend a puppy to grow up with your children and small dog. The reason they are sometimes not good with other children who come to play is that the screaming and running sometimes is misconstrued as a threat to your children. But if brought up from puppyhood with these kids, the Doberman should be just fine. But of course, always, always supervise any dog with children. Their prey drive can get the best of them as they tend to have quite a strong prey drive and may chase a kid who is running and who knows what next?

Heavy socialization is a must. I cannot stress that enough. And that is from the moment you bring the pup home. Group classes, obedience, agility or other sport is very good for them. They DO need to feel like they have a job to do or they can become bored and frusterated.

I'm all for rescue. I think it's a wonderful thing to do to save those dogs and give them a good, happy life. And if you can be very, very sure of what you're getting, it may be nice to skip the puppy stuff. But sometimes they don't evalutate the dog well. I've heard of some cases where mistakes or carelessness has happened. I think if I had small children, I would lean more toward starting with a puppy and letting them imprint and grow from the get go. Of course, if your children are very small, you need to be extra careful. Plus you small dog can be hurt. Dobes can play awfully rough as pups. But I guess most larger breed pups do too, but these guys are something else again.

They are not a breed for someone who is not very, very familiar with having had dogs or not experienced with training their dogs and not for someone who is not assertive. They cannot be treated with a heavy hand or harshly....very sensative but at the same time, they need to have clear guidance and know who's in charge.

Whatever you decide, do your research and read everything you can get your hands on. Talk to people at shows who own the breed you're interested in. Get around and spend some time with that breed. And go to a reputable breeder. That is very important for not only health but finding the best temperament bred into them that you can find.

Good luck.
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