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Old 10-20-2008, 06:30 PM
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I would just like to brag that my 8 yr old 65 lb mutt can do that run (not sure about the working part though). But she runs beside my horse on trailrides, some that have lasted well over 7 hours... and she STILL has energy when I get her home! I think she'll still be able to do it when she's 10 too, bc she hasn't shown any signs of slowing down.
Sounds like my husband's almost 12 year old Icelandic Sheepdog. You'd never, ever know he was that old. He literally looks and acts (and has energy) like he's 2 or 3. I don't know what's finally going to stop that dog. We joke that he has a nuclear reactor for a brain. He recently was "teasing" the large male horses on the farm and got trampled. Broke all of the bones in one paw. Had a cast for 6 months or so (because he kept chewing them off...they kept having to re-xray and re-cast) and it hasn't slowed him down at all.

And because he's gooooorgeous, here's a picture (he's about 32 pounds - so one of those energetic, never-stopping smaller dogs):




He's looking sheepish in this one because he was being told to lie down...he offered a paw instead, hoping it'd be good enough!
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Old 10-20-2008, 06:39 PM
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laurelin you beat me to posting that site lol

Everyone is always asking me why Missy is so "small". She's aroung 65lbs - just right, to me!
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:09 PM
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I'd really also like to know where your friend did her research,,

One way to put an end to the speculation,,is,,ask her who the breeder was..From that alone, I'm sure the gsd savvy people here could tell you what "type" she is, bloodlines etc, and whether she is just a plain FAT german shepherd..

I have had GSD's for almost 30 years and never have seen a female in good health, within standard size,,hit the 120# mark. Even a shiloh female probable wouldn't hit that weight.

I had a male at one point that was 125lbs and 32" at the shoulders,,he was not fat,,I kept him lean because of his size..

I would really like to know where this person got her 120# female...
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:23 PM
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Most likely you are correct but I have seen 120 Presas that were incredibly athletic and were very good working dogs. I realize the GSD that is 120lbs is a poorly breed dog with only distance working lines at best.
Yes, I am sure that is very true as well as with filas. I think it depends on body type. GSDs were never meant to be giant, so maybe thats why they do so much better at a smaller weight. Filas and presas have the body structure to be officiant at a much heavier weight. I am just guessing here, BTW. I am no expert.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:48 PM
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Just my 0.02 (which doesn't count for much on the GSD front).

Willow is 9 years old now. She was adopted from the pound at 8-9 weeks. We figured when we pulled her out that she was a pure shepherd. We're not entirely sure, kind of suspect there may possibly be some malamute back there 3 or 4 generations ago, but she has made a fantastic SAR dog.

Her handler's only complaint has been that she is so large, that really she does tire more quickly than the lighter dogs...though SAR is a lot of endurance climbing up and down hills more than running full blast at people and slamming into them. A year ago (so 8 years old) her elbows started giving her problems so they are talking about retiring her now. If her elbows went out in the field, it would be a huge ordeal to carry a dog her size back to base.

She is 110 lbs trim.




And of course, being a huge female everybody under the sun wanted to breed to her, since she's "old style". They were always disappointed that she was spayed. Now that I think of it, could her elbow problems be stemming more from getting spayed at 8-9 weeks old than genetics? Just curious.

Once they were stopped by the someone who claimed he was the president of the local GSD breed club chapter, and he told them what lines she was out of and seemed really impressed, but they totally forgot what he said later. Oh well.

ETA: I've posted this before, but it's the only pic I have of her being athletic. She's about 10 lbs overweight in this pic though, because of her elbows limiting activity. It's back to a healthy level now.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:40 AM
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When the American Line GSD became so angulated someone out there knew they could make a great buck by breeding larger dogs with straight backs and refering to them as "old style".
When we're kids every dog seems bigger than they really are.
So now imagine that you're 40 and sitting in your living room watching Westminster and you see the now popular style of American Line GSD and it doesn't look anything like you remember your family dog from when you were 5. Heck it's so small and what's with those hind legs?

I do believe these "old style" GSDs are purebred, they're just breeding the dogs/bitches that the good folks spay/neuter because they're outside the size standard.

Take a peak at Yahoo sometime
1 - 10 of 598 for "old style german shepherd"

598 hits for old style german shepherd
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:04 AM
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Yes, I am sure that is very true as well as with filas. I think it depends on body type. GSDs were never meant to be giant, so maybe thats why they do so much better at a smaller weight. Filas and presas have the body structure to be officiant at a much heavier weight. I am just guessing here, BTW. I am no expert.
Same with Great Danes, large bone structure supports more muscle and bodyweight. But none of the large dogs like that are bred for stamina like a properly sized GSD is.
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ive got a feeling your freind got all her info from byb's
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:08 PM
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Same with Great Danes, large bone structure supports more muscle and bodyweight. But none of the large dogs like that are bred for stamina like a properly sized GSD is.
Yeah, I really wouldn't think so. I have a hard time picturing a giant breed out doing a properly bred GSD.
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Same with Great Danes, large bone structure supports more muscle and bodyweight. But none of the large dogs like that are bred for stamina like a properly sized GSD is.
Dan, having had - and loved - both breeds, I can assure you that no GSD, no matter how well bred, is a match in stamina for a working Fila They were never meant to be. And you'd never believe how little fuel a working/farm bred Fila needs, especially in comparison!

Bimmer's the only one I've ever seen who came close, and he's part wolf!
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