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Old 10-20-2008, 07:20 AM
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A coworker of mine has a 120lb GSD female. Here's a summary of our conversation just to get to the point.

When I was like "lordy that's a big girl! She's double the size of most GSDs."

My coworker was like, "no she's the perfect weight."

So then I of course said, "well, the breed standard calls for dogs around 60lbs."

Her, "well there are other types of shepherds than the roachback show ones."

Me, "I know, there are working german shepherds too, but they're still small."

Her, "No I did TONS of research on them. There are show shepherds, old style shepherds, shadow shepherds, working shepherds, roach back shepherds and mini shepherds."




Now, I'm assuming the "old style" are really shilohs.... and obvioulsy I know show and working.... what the heck are the other ones?????????? Oh, and she's adament that it's a "German Shepherd Dog." I mentioned Shiloh's as a different breed in the beginning of the conversation.

Now obviously, GSDs are not my breed. But I'm still very much under the impression that there are only show lines and working line GSDs and they're both supposed to be somewhere around 60/70lbs.
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:14 AM
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I can see a GSD hitting around 90, maybeee, but 120? That's enormous.
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:19 AM
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a 90lb female GSD is still huge!

I'd like to know what *exactly* all those other breeds are. I'm not sure where she did her "research," but as far as I know there are only two *types* of GSD. I'm thinking the other dogs are just different types of Shepherds, but not GSD. I'm trying to figure out what they are though.... So that's why I was asking if anyone could help me out here.

that or maybe I am wrong and there are more types? I doubt that... but, like I said... they're not my breed.... so I could be.
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:26 AM
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Could be wrong but...

I never heard the term Shadow Shepherd, when she says "roached" I am thinking she is refering to West German Showline GSD's (the back has a banana like curve "roached")
Mini GSD's, never heard that term either but I am tempted to say that she is probably talking about a normal size GSD. Lets face it if she thinks that a 120 lb GSD is how they are supposed to look then a 60ish lb GSD is going to appear "mini".

Oh and when I think old style GSD's I think of the dogs in the 40-50's. Nothing even remotely close to a Shiloh in structure, structure wise I would say that to me that German working lines and Czech lines more closely resemble old style GSD's.
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:29 AM
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Yes, I can see a male GSD at 90. That's about where Gunnar is. A 120lb female is just way out of standard.

Old style and "shadow" shepherds are probably referring to Shiloh's.

Roach back are referring to west german highline dogs- show dogs.

Mini shepherds? WTF? That's probably a NORMAL sized female to some people. My buddy who breeds working line dogs has females that are in the 50lb range. Some of their pups are 6 months old and look like a 4 month old. There is a genetic defect that produces dwarf dogs, but they are rare and require constant vet care to survive.
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:43 AM
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She may have done her research on less than reputable websites that make up breeds, like teacup chihuahuas, to make people think their dogs are special or different. My cousin has 2 yorkies, one is normal sized and the other is a "giant" yorkie but she refers to the smaller one as a teacup yorkie. So whoever she got them from made a killing on the correct sized yorkie and still a good amount on the giant one.
My cousin has a GSD female that is a year old and he always brags that her father was 140 pounds and her mother was 120. His dog is probably in the 80-90 pound range.
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:43 AM
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haha! i didn't think that maybe to her a "mini" is a GSD in standard. That would make sense bc they would be half the size of her dog.

bunny, I'm thinking she ment shiloh about the "old fashioned" bc that's what she claimed her dog is.... and a lot of people think that shiloh's are still breed to resemble old fashioned.

and she did mention roachback and show as two different ones... but she said one at the begining of her list and one at the end.... so maybe they were supposed to be one?



I wonder where she did her "research." She claims she spent a long time learning about all the different "types" of GSD, and then she picked hers. ???????????
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:47 AM
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From someone that loves GSD's, I can tell you what your friend hasn't researched very well, nor knows as much as she thinks she might.
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It always breaks my heart when people are misguided into thinking Shilohs share any resemblance to old fashioned GSD's.
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:51 AM
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Well, GSD showlines vary between American type dogs and then German show dogs.

I always thought this site was decent for the basics: http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard...eed_Types.html
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