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Old 10-11-2008, 12:05 AM
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Training cats is a riot!!!! I trained one of the barn cats to do agility a few years ago, he could in a sequence (running), the dogwalk, tunnels, jumps, teeter and frame, never got around to the weaves He knew the contacts as well!!
My house cats always did a bunch of tricks, its fun.
Do you train them similar to how dogs are trained? I'd like to train my siamese mix to do more, he seems pretty bright.
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:47 AM
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Joel- I am curious as to the different methods you use- I dont know of anything specific but curious how the selection of prospects, pre-training, on set- that sort of deal goes.
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:52 AM
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Actually, another common behavior that is called for is a "head down", and also a "head up"... a lot of time that takes place when the dog is laying in the floor. You are totally right .. Golden Retriever!!!

And yes cats.. it's funny because so many people think that cats hard to train.. definitely different than a dog... and more challenging.. but it is amazing what they can learn
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Old 10-11-2008, 01:02 AM
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The pre-training can be a huge factor. A lot of times when we are bidding on a job like a commercial, sometimes there might be a behavior or sequence that needs to be trained. Sometimes you can get as much as a good month of two of training for a job that only is a one or two day shoot. Although those jobs come up very infrequently, and not nearly enough. In general we get about a day or two pf "prep" for a commercial.

As far as the selection of prospects, I made a decision to do something a little different from other animal companies. Many animal suppliers have 25 to 60 dogs they have and own. It is a huge overhead and give them a lot of credit. For the past 3 years I have pulled a lot of my dogs from the private individual like yourself and payed the owner and used their dog. There are a few reasons, but the biggest one is that I can give the production company a larger pool of dogs to choose from. I have found that when I find the right dog from private parties, they work just as well if not better than a "movie dog".
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Old 10-11-2008, 01:10 AM
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I tell people that cats are different than a dog primarily because when you develop a great relationship with your dog, your dog really wants to please you and make you happy, and it makes training so much easier. That is really what my brand COMPANIONS FOR LIFE is all about, to develop that awesome relationship.

Cats on the other hand are totally working for the treat, and they don't have the "wanting to please you" attitude that a dog has. (They may have that "wanting to please you" attitude, but it's on their terms) That is really the biggest difference. But it still is amazing what cats can do.

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Old 10-11-2008, 01:19 AM
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There are a few ways of teaching the dog to lift his leg like he is peeing. I have done it both ways.

The first way is putting something elevated next to the dog and teach him to put one of his rear legs on it. You eventually start raising the object, and then fade it out. That is the quicker way. The only problem with that is that a lot of the time even after the behavior is trained as the dog lifts his leg, he reaches for the object. It kind of looks funny.

The second way is more time consuming, but looks better, and that is to actually raise the hind leg with your hand. Eventually the dog begins to hold it up in the air on his own, and you just shape it that way. By the way, this is something that I would use a clicker in training too. Because the timing is so important.
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Old 10-11-2008, 01:26 AM
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Boemy,

Cool cat pics by the way!!
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Cool cat pics by the way!!
Why, thank you! They're about six months old in my avatar picture. Remy (the tabby) looks about the same full grown, but Booster (part siamese) is more stripey now.

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Old 10-11-2008, 07:19 AM
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Your Tabby/White cat... That look gets a ton of work for some reason. I cannot tell you how many clients have picked that color scheme of cat in the past few years. There are actually a few really good cat teams that have your cat's color in Los Angeles.
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Old 10-11-2008, 07:24 AM
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I also wanted to everyone know that just because I train animals for a specific client does not mean I endorse or use their food. This year and last year I trained the animals in the IAMS and Purina commercials. However, I do not endorse nor do I feed either of these foods. They pay me to train the animals for the commercials, and nothing else.

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