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Old 09-09-2008, 06:27 PM
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hi thanks for the replys, the thing is since she is a siberian its her nature to pull! she knows when the harness is on that she should pull. so using one for a walk will do no good.
Some methods i have tried are turning around and going in opposite direction,
pulling her to the side. making her sit, untill she is relaxed.
Its all been hopeless lol very stubborn.
I make sure she is chilled and relaxed before going on her walk as well and she will sit calmly and let me put her lead on, but the moment we are outside pulls like crazy, though i will add that she is normally quite good coming home so weather its just the exciment of going for a walk i don't know.

I have considered a halti or the illusion collar?
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Old 09-09-2008, 06:40 PM
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Sorry, I forgot you went sledding with her. You could try a head halter but it should be coupled with some sort of training and the dog must learn to accept the collar, for some dogs it is not a good choice. I have not heard of anyone who uses the illusion collar, I would not buy it simply because it supports Cesar Millan.

I would try some of the suggested methods then pick one and STICK to it for a good while. ANY improvement should be celebrated.

Go out and see what she does if you simply stop and ignore her, don't tell her to do anything or tug on the leash. See what she does. Then come tell us how she reacted (for some dogs the stop method is useless, for others it is a big help, it depends on how the dog reacts and if he is an experimental dog).
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:16 PM
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Another question I have: Why take her on a walk since she clearly wants to run? I'm not saying she shouldn't learn leash manners, but so many people fight the dog on this issue simply bc the dog is never getting the amount of exercise they really need and simply doesn't enjoy a leisurely stroll. Personally, I almost never walk my dogs. Sometimes when they are on rehab after an injury, or for my own protection if I want to walk at night in the city. Otherwise they are off leash to run (with good recalls, of course), or biking on a springer where they can pull and run. Going slow just isn't much fun or much use for exercising big, athletic dogs, so why do it?
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:31 PM
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Unlike Jules, I don't make the dogs come back, I just wait until they let the slack into the leash.
Uhh... I just wanted to add (I think I worded it weird) that I had her on a short leash when we were in the "acute" stage of learning how to walk on a leash.. I didn't really make her "come back" as she was more or less walking next to me. If she pulled and the leash was missing slack, I'd make her sit, because she gets really focused on a smell, a view, etc. With making her sit, it broke this focus. I didn't give her a leash correction, but kept the leash without much slack and started to walk again as soon as I did give slack in the leash. I don't know if that makes sense... but it worked for her.

And to the last post... I'd let the dog get a good amount of exercise first and then start the proper walk training. I think walking nicely on a leash is an extremely important aspect of a well behaved dog... I wouldn't only and always simply walk... but then again, I'm trying to switch up the form of exercise so she won't get bored, i.e. walking, swimming, playing ball, etc.
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Old 09-10-2008, 02:58 AM
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If you're just teaching your dog not to pull, I always choose to recommend training without the aid of correction collars or head halters first. They work wonderfully, but sometimes we become dependent on them-- and our dogs learn to walk nicely, while the collar/halter is on.

With older dogs that are pretty much, intentionally or unintentionally, trained to pull-- to have tension in the leash at all times-- Our goal is to lose that tension. Your dog is to be rewarded when there is slack in the lead. You don't want to keep the leash tense while you're training, either.

I've found with dogs like this; that aren't just in a hurry to go somewhere, but are 'trained' to PULL you somewhere, the best method is not to stop-- but to turn around immediately and walk the other direction. During walking, the reward is getting to go forward, where she wants to go. The only time she is rewarded is when the leash is slack.

When you take a step, and she darts out to the end of the leash and pulls you, you would-- in one swift motion-- give a quick turn-around-tug in the opposite direction while saying "Eh-Eh! Let's go!" and walk. When she goes with you and walks with you gently (Most dogs will, because they're confused as to why you're going back that way...) she gets praised, and maybe a treat.

The most important thing is to do it EVERY time, on EVERY walk. If she gets away with it a few times, she's going to try it EVERY time.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:21 AM
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She has a run at least 3 times a week, pulling the front of my bike (depending on the weather) and we also have the walkydog attachement for side of bike as well. Huskies are not allowed of lead as they have a high prey drive, so that is a no no. But she does get plenty of exercise and also go's to see her malamute friend for a run in her garden.

I have just got a head halti (gentle leader) and will try her on this, see how it goes. I do also like her to have a nice stroll in the evenings, allowing her to take her time on her walk but as she is pulling so much to start of with it dosent look comfortable for her or me
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:38 AM
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I think you might find this helpful.

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Old 09-10-2008, 10:15 AM
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I have a husky too, we've been working on our leash manners for about a year now. I feel your pain. (Vlad was an adult when I got him, a year ago and so he came with a whole set of issues we are still working on.)

I'm going to second what was said earlier about the avoiding collar corrections with huskies. Vlad's previous owner likely used some leash correction on him, because any grabbing of my dog's collar that he thinks is going to be a correction results in him hitting the ground and screaming like you are stabbing him to death. It's not something you want to foster unless you like the sound of screaming huskies every time you need to control him via his collar. (Even turning it to put a leash on would result in this behavior at first. And it really sounds like you are hurting a small child or something.)

(Thanks Sch3Dana for confirming our suspicions by the way! We have been trying to figure out why he did this! I guess his old owners must have helped him learn this, we never use collar corrections with him as a result.)

I tried the head halter as well. He pulled right out of that one.

I use the stop and go method to keep him from pulling really hard. But he just never seemed to really get that I wanted him to walk WITH me not IN FRONT OF ME.

Attaching heel or walking next to me to a command has worked really really well for us so far. (I use "Walk Nice" because, I mean, he's not heeling, but at least he's paying attention to me and walking with me.)

Maybe that would work for you as well since you are asking for different behaviors on leash at different times. Just a thought.

I used treats he loved to lure it, and so now he knows if he walks nice until I tell him "okay" he gets a yummy treat. (I've also heard of people dropping them as you walk.) He's even started walking nice voluntarily to solicit treats. So I'm pretty happy with that, he can go about a block and a half before he loses focus, but that's up from about 10 feet a few months ago, so I'm really happy with it.
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Old 09-10-2008, 11:04 AM
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Hi, whats a walk nice?
I have got a halti today and though she is not keen on it, we have been able to have a plesant walk, she can slip it of but i added a halti link to attach to collar as i don't want a loose husky
Thing is i'm not that keen on them, and it looks like you are walking a dangerous dog that wants to bite, i'm at my wits end what to do
I don't want her to walk to heel she can go in front but just not pulling me like i'm walking against a strong wind!!
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:29 PM
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Is it a halti (brand name) or a gentle leader (like you said in an earlier post... also a brand name)? There are small differences between haltis and gentle leaders, and one main difference is that when adjusted correctly, a dog should not be able to slip out of the gentle leader. If this is what you have, you'll need to go to the gentle leader website or watch the dvd that came in the packaging to make sure that you're fitting it correctly.
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