Labradoodles

[Laurelin]

Hm... I didn't notice the 1 year old studs. That'd be a concern to me definitely.

[bubbatd]

If they breed before 2 years old , how do have hip clearance ???

[YodelDogs]

Originally Posted by bubbatd

If they breed before 2 years old , how do have hip clearance ???

I was wondering that also but you can get an OFA prelim done on dogs under 24 months. However, you do not get an OFA number unless the x-rays are taken after 24 months. I believe Penn Hip can certify dogs over 4 months but I am not familiar with them.

[bubbatd]

Agree ... but I don't think they should say OFA checked until over 2 . I did pre 2 years too , but never bred until they were redone and registered after 2 years .

[lizzybeth727]

I like that they have australian labradoodles, if I wanted one, that's the kind I'd get.

As far as guardian homes, I'd think that's kind of like a co-owner, so they pretty much "foster" the dog until the breeders are ready to breed her. I don't know, that's just my guess.

[bubbatd]

Agree that the Australian Labradoodles are ready to be accepted , I just don't like " breeders " who are on the band wagon gleaming off the name ! I really hope that the accepted ones are called ALDs .

[bubbatd]

Agree that the Australian Labradoodles are ready to be accepted , I just don't like " breeders " who are on the band wagon gleaning off the name ! I really hope that the accepted ones are called ALDs .

[Boemy]

This reminds me of a lady I saw in the vet's waiting room while I was waiting for my pet's check up. She had a female golden retriever and she was picking up the results of a hip test for her. I chatted with her and as it turned out she had done some other tests on the dog--I believe they were thyroid and CERF tests. She said something about needing to do one more test before they knew if the dog was breedable.

So at this point I'm thinking, "WOW, it is so awesome to meet a responsible breeder who actually does all the health tests. Clearly this lady knows her stuff!"

I asked, "So, is your dog a champion yet?"

"Oh no, we don't show her," she said. "We don't have time for that sort of thing. We're breeding her because she's such a pretty caramel color."

She was better than the average BYB, but a BYB nonetheless.

I don't have a problem with people "creating" new breeds . . . IF they have a good reason for it. If it's just because "a mix between this and that would be SO cute and pretty", well, that is completely unacceptable IMO. A mix between any two dogs can be cute, there should be a better reason to "create" a breed than that. If police departments start crossbreeding bloodhounds and labradors for a new breed of bomb-sniffing dogs, I wouldn't object. But for an animal who's only job is "companion" and "pet" . . . I think that's ridiculous. What, people can't find a single dog that suits their family and lifestyle out of the all of breeds, not to mention mixed breeds in the shelters?

I realize the original thought behind the labradoodle was "maybe we can make a non-shedding, hypoallergenic seeing eye dog." But I ask you . . . is that the intent of this breeder with their "miniature" and "toy" labradoodles, one of whom weighs only fifteen pounds?

[Dekka]

Some good points Nolu. I totally agree that breeding before 3 is too young! BUT many breeders consider it the norm, so if she got a 'mentor' even one that produces many ch dogs she may not 'know' this is wrong. To me I wouldn't buy a puppy from that person, but it is not the most horrid thing going. (Studies have shown that physically dogs CAN raise healthy pups whilst still growing as long as they have plenty of nutrition. I don't think it is worth the risk, nor do I think the bitch would be mentally ready.)

Poodles come in tiny to huge..are they not a real breed? What about schnauzers? They come in many sizes too. One of the main reasons JRT breed standard is not acceptable to kennel clubs is that 10-15 inches is way to large range for a small dog with only one type. Personally I am ok with that.

[Dekka]

Originally Posted by Boemy

I don't have a problem with people "creating" new breeds . . . IF they have a good reason for it. If it's just because "a mix between this and that would be SO cute and pretty", well, that is completely unacceptable IMO.

To play devils advocate...

Why? Cute with a good temperament and healthy is basically all the general public cares about. One of the reasons there are so many unadopted dogs in shelters and such is that they are the ones the 'public' doesn't want.

Toys were all created to be cute companion dogs. Why is ok for people to do it 100 years ago and not now?