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Old 08-01-2008, 09:05 AM
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Totally on accident, I came across another Prince George's County law enforcement/dog debachery story this morning....



Wow.

Yep, that one was a while ago, last I heard the family was suing . . unfortunately, the dog has "no value" and the police are probably immune.


This is not an uncommon event, I'm afraid. And sometimes its people who get killed.

Actually, with the Khang family story I posted above, the only thing that surprised me is that Mr. Khang was not immedately arrested and being put on trial for attacking a police officer. Because that's pretty much par for the course too . . . .

This is not rare, and often, there is absolutely no recourse. In fact, if the family defends themselves (because they have no reason to think its the police) they are arrested and charged.

One gentleman shot a cop who was part of a no-knock paramilitary raid. Looking for pot. Wrong house. He was alone with his 13 year old neice, and armed men broke in, and he thought the worst. He shot one of the men, who did not annouce themselves as police (or if they did, he was in the basement and did not hear them) and is now on trial for captial murder. As their justification for getting the WRONG HOUSE they pointed out that they had found the butt of a marajuana cigarette in an ashtray.

This sort of thing is a horrific violation of our rights and human decency, but it happens all the time, and the justification . . . drugs. Always drugs. Usually, marijuana. They might destroy the evidence you see, so its necessary to assult their home with a no-knock paramilitary raid, even if the suspect has no history of violence. Its worth someone getting shot so that they don't flush the pot down the toilet. Really, it is. Really. And if its the wrong house? Or they are innocent? Oh, well, gotta break some eggs . . .

Another good one is the house that got raided because their electricity bill was "too high" so they had to be growing pot. Nope, raising iguanas, a totally legal activity.
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:33 AM
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That police department is... is... corrupt or something. They should be ashamed. People scare me.. even the ones that are "supposed to protect". *shakes head*
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:48 AM
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This is ridiculous. The police delivered the package? And when he accepted it they raided his house and accused him of being a drug dealer? How does that even make sense???

And then the other stories you guys posted, omg. That makes me so angry. Like, speechless angry. AHH.
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Old 08-01-2008, 11:18 AM
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Here are more, with dead dogs:

http://www.theagitator.com/?s=puppycide

This one is particularly fascinating, read the comments, they explain why there's no outrage. Because, obviously, if the cops are raiding your home, even if there is no evidence of a crime, you are a criminal, and you deserve to have your dog shot (or be banned from owning dogs for life). I've heard similar comments from real people . . .they must have doing soemthing wrong, or, my favorite "they should have lived in a better part of town.

http://www.wickedlocal.com/wareham/n...raid-is-a-bust


I'm not done yet!

Here's more!

http://www.windypundit.com/archives/...y_he_shot.html Dead person, dead dogs.

More awards for attacking innocent people:

http://www.theagitator.com/2006/11/2...rning-outrage/

And here's another one!

http://www.windypundit.com/archives/...ing_about.html

Here's a paper about it by the CATO institute, with which I do not always agree, but they have this right: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6476
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:32 PM
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Saw this on CL Today:

In Memory of Chase and Payton
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/m...778666554.html


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Please call the PG County Sheriff, Michael Jackson, to express your outrage at how this situation was handled. Phone: 301-883-7000

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/17049195/detail.html

"These were two beautiful black Labradors who were well-known in the community. We walked them twice a day; little kids knew their names and would come up to them and pet them," he said.
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:03 PM
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That was pretty scary and crazy. Although let's say they shot the dogs for safety reasons, but still it's unfair. If I were the mayor, I would feel so lost after witnessing the death of my beloved pets.


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Old 08-01-2008, 01:54 PM
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They would not have needed to shoot these dogs, or any of the dogs in my earlier links, if they had behaved reasonably with regards to the potential threat. No-knock raids and SWAT teams were originally developed to deal with armed, violent offenders, not pot-heads, small-time drug dealers, and innocent neighbors. NONE of these indicents had to happen, in NONE of them was that level of firepower justified. In no case was putting the life of the suspect (if the suspect even lived at the raided house) and police officers (who are much more likely to be shot at if they bust into someone's house shooting) and innocent bystanders in danger.

Frankly, the no-knock paramilitary drug raid culture is a case of police officers wanting to feel macho by dressing up in raid gear, carrying high-powered weapons, and playing solider. Then they can talk about how courageous they were busting an unarmed pot-head. Its not that they aren't justified in making an arrest, but the tactics are WAY out of proportion to the threat to either the officers or society.
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This is horrible. If these cops shot my dogs just for being alive and in the house....
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Sounds like a set up to me . Someone didn't like the mayor and sent the package and notified the police . I'm so upset about the dogs !!!!! How horrible !
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When I put these cases into the perspective of thinking "what if it happened to me?" it makes me want to go check and make sure all my doors are locked. Or keep my dogs crated constantly.
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