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Old 08-01-2008, 12:32 PM
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I have been working with Jazz a bit at home. When you are healing the stop the dog is suposed to sit with thier front feet parallel to yours correct? Well 80% of the time Jazz sits a good 6 inches back from that. When she does do it right she gets TONS of praise and when she doesnt I ignore it.

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Old 08-01-2008, 12:39 PM
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I've never paid attention to the dog's feet when I halt. The shoulder/neck should be lined up with your leg. The feet of a dane would be further forward than the feet of a chi.

If she's heeling in the correct position but is behind you when she sits, she might be rocking back into her sit. She needs to learn to tuck.

Here's an article on how to teach the tuck sit ~

http://www.clickersolutions.com/arti...b/compsits.htm
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Old 08-01-2008, 04:18 PM
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Thanks. That might be what shes doing. How many marks off would it be for sitting behind?
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Old 08-01-2008, 04:28 PM
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sit at heel is a basic position that dogs should be well schooled in. It is an important building block that you will use in all advanced work, same as sit front.

You should take the time to school your dog so that she knows and understands where heel is, and how to find it and get in position from anywhere, and the same with front.

I work this as a game with my dogs all the time. As they progress I make is harder and harder for them to find heel and front. The payoff is a game of tug, or a small food reward, or a fun game of fetch for a release.

I teach dogs at least 4 movements that help me help them get in proper heel position.

I teach them in this order:

Get Up (move forward)
Get In (move towards my left leg)
Get Back (move backwards)
Get Off (move away from my left leg)

I teach these using food to lure, and sometimes a lightweight touch stick to help the dog move in the right direction.

The best advice I can give you is DO NOT BE IN A HURRY TO GET TO THE RING. Spend the time you need to teach your dog the basics, and make sure she understands them before moving on.

It will make all your work in the future so much easier and more pleasant.
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Old 08-01-2008, 05:09 PM
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I may be wrong ...( it's been a while ! ) but it seems when they said " Halt " I moved my forward foot back to my other foot , which did put shoulder to my leg .
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Old 08-01-2008, 06:11 PM
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Something else to consider may be how you walk. Do you walk in a straight line or tend to "spoon out" (as my trainer calls it)? I usually "spoon out" when I walk, so I was constantly cutting off my dogs when we are walking/heeling, so they would get behind or ahead of me, and in turn, tend to not sit in the correct position. Does she sit on her own, or do you give her a "tug" to remind her to sit? If you have to remind her, are you pulling back or pulling up? Pulling back could make her sit back on her heels, essentially sitting back instead of sitting "down". When you are asking her to "halt," are your shoulders parallel? If they aren't, then she could be taking the signal from you and sitting back of heel position. Like Red said, heeling and sit at heel are the basis of most everything advanced you'll ever do, so make sure you take your time! I'm in the same boat, I really want to rush because it's fun (and I'm a little overcompetitive!) but my trainers like to remind me of my errors and things that my dogs do that aren't automatic or exactly right so I have to slow down and make sure that what I am doing is telling my dogs the right thing to do.

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Old 08-01-2008, 07:50 PM
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Usually I dont have to remind her. 9 times out of 10 she does sit on her own. We are just starting with this. I dont expect her to be ready for her CD untill next summer. It all takes time. Agility is more our thing. but I would like an CD on her
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:12 PM
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NRA, I often choose marked parkinglots to train in so I can walk along the lines. LOL!! So many times if you can get an educated observer, many of the issues one has with their dog have to do with handling.

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Dobes tend to like to settle back when they sit. Saga does it and that is what we are working on right now. WHen I am using a leash, I hold it in front of my body a bit. (It looks like I am going to give somebody an uppercut, but just my elbow is bent.) I might drag out the clicker and see if I can polish it up a bit that way.
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Old 08-01-2008, 09:10 PM
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Once you are sure she is doing a tuck sit, I would recommend doing many reps of one-step halt, using food to lure her into exactly the right position. Practicing just that part of the routine over and over again helps a lot as you both get used to the movement and it is the same every time. You should practice until she can do one-step halts with perfect fluidity and no help from the food (but still rewarding every correct halt).

Then, when you start practicing from real heeling again, I would reward every single correct halt and if she starts to sit too far behind, don't wait for her to settle- start heeling again. This stops her from doing the wrong behavior and prevents her from earning her reward. And, if this happens, pay attention to your footwork and handling- most handler halt terribly- inconsistent, bumping into the dog, not using the same movement every time, so the poor dog is dancing without a partner. If you are this handler- practice halts from heeling without a dog until you are perfect and smooth every time.
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