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Old 07-11-2008, 09:06 PM
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Default A few questions about Bear pooping/peeing

Now that yall know about Bear I have some questions.

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1) Bear is doing pretty good on housetraining now but he is not doing so good on crate training as far as peeing in his crate at night goes. Sometimes he soaks his crate at night or he pees like once or twice. He goes to bed between 10-11pm and I take him out at 7am because thats the time he wakes me up to go to the bathroom and to get fed. I take him outside before he gets fed and then right afterwards. My question is, what could be the reasons he is wetting his crate so much?
The vet said it could possibly be an overactive bladder but wasn't to sure as he only soaks his crate at night occasionaly.

2) When Bear goes to a new place he has no problem peeing outside but he won't poop at all. When I went to my grandma's last week we were there for a good 3 hours and Bear didn't poop, (I fed him 2 hours before we left and didnt poop at all before we left to go to grandma's.) Now,I am at my mom's house and have been here for almost 4 hours and he has not pooped once, and hasnt pooped since almost 2pm today (when we left from my house to meet my mom) and its after 9pm. I am concerned. What could this be?

3) What are some good methods to use when continuing house training? Like put a string around the doorhandle with a bell at the end, teaching his to sit by the door when he has to go, etc?

Other question:
I plan on doing agility and/or showing with Bear. Moreso agility than anything else. I have looked at the AKC site and got some info, but what could I do at home to help get Bear and I started?

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Old 07-11-2008, 11:31 PM
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1. I would expect, with a nine week old pup, to get up at least twice in the middle of the night (one of the many reasons I'll be sticking to adults), he should not be expected to hold it all night, he's an infant. Also how large is the crate? He should be able to stand, turn and lay down but no more or he'll choose one side as potty and one as bed. Make sure you are cleaning the crate with an enzymatic cleaner like nature's miracle (or anything with enzymes in the ingredients) so there are zero traces of urine remaining.

2. Dogs pee more than they poop so they get more practice with that, they are praised more often for peeing since they do it more so that comes faster to them. just continue taking him out every 1-2 hours and remember to praise as soon as he finishes. Do not let him out of your sight in the house, leash him to you so he cannot run off and hide to poop, every time he poops inside it's one less chance you get to praise and one more time the dog learns the house can be pottied in. How often does he normally poop and do you have him on a feeding schedule?

3. Well my dog just taught himself to whine to go out, he'd come and sit near us and whine while he stared at us. But you can train your dog to do whatever you want. the bell is recommended because you are not always gonna see the dog sitting at the door, with a bell you can hear it across the house. Do you know how to train this or would you like help?

Remember he is still a baby and if things had worked out normally, you would probably not have him yet (small dogs should stay with mom and litter mates until 10-12 weeks). a few things do worry me about him being taken so early, he has not learned some valuable lessons from mom and litter mates such as how to control his jaws and he has had NO competition from his litter mates, he may have trouble dealing with frustration as he has always gotten his way with having things like toys, food, attention etc. So you may want to do some of that stuff. Leash him, toss a treat across the floor and see how long it takes him to stop fighting to get it. Now fighting long is not necessarily bad, just means he's determined, you want to watch for him starting to escalate into hysteria, barking while struggling at the end of the leash, slipping and falling while basically throwing a temper tantrum. he would not look like he's having fun, he would look frustrated, restless, nervous even. Or he may be perfectly fine. It's something to try, even if he's fine it's good practice for him to be patient. When he settles give a release word an let him go to his treat.

As for agility, right now I would just start with some basic stuff like sit and down and focus (look right at your face). You can work on building his confidence as well, many dogs are nervous at first abut walking on teeter totters or jumping bars etc. So get him used to different things like that. Right now his balance might not be good enough to walk on planks but just getting him to walk over a bar on the ground and on different materials and textures (including things that are not all that sturdy, as a teeter totter would not be) will get him used to that, always keep is short and fun. If you go for a walk in the woods and you see a fallen log or something encourage him to jump on it. Any opportunities, jump up on a bench in the park or go down a short little kids slide at the playground (make sure you have control of him so he does not stumble) etc. Anything that socializes him with "new" is good, remember praise at the end. Drop something on the ground and praise him for not getting scared. All these things build confidence and socialize him.
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Old 07-12-2008, 12:18 AM
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1. I would expect, with a nine week old pup, to get up at least twice in the middle of the night (one of the many reasons I'll be sticking to adults), he should not be expected to hold it all night, he's an infant. Also how large is the crate? He should be able to stand, turn and lay down but no more or he'll choose one side as potty and one as bed. Make sure you are cleaning the crate with an enzymatic cleaner like nature's miracle (or anything with enzymes in the ingredients) so there are zero traces of urine remaining.

2. Dogs pee more than they poop so they get more practice with that, they are praised more often for peeing since they do it more so that comes faster to them. just continue taking him out every 1-2 hours and remember to praise as soon as he finishes. Do not let him out of your sight in the house, leash him to you so he cannot run off and hide to poop, every time he poops inside it's one less chance you get to praise and one more time the dog learns the house can be pottied in. How often does he normally poop and do you have him on a feeding schedule?

3. Well my dog just taught himself to whine to go out, he'd come and sit near us and whine while he stared at us. But you can train your dog to do whatever you want. the bell is recommended because you are not always gonna see the dog sitting at the door, with a bell you can hear it across the house. Do you know how to train this or would you like help?

Remember he is still a baby and if things had worked out normally, you would probably not have him yet (small dogs should stay with mom and litter mates until 10-12 weeks). a few things do worry me about him being taken so early, he has not learned some valuable lessons from mom and litter mates such as how to control his jaws and he has had NO competition from his litter mates, he may have trouble dealing with frustration as he has always gotten his way with having things like toys, food, attention etc. So you may want to do some of that stuff. Leash him, toss a treat across the floor and see how long it takes him to stop fighting to get it. Now fighting long is not necessarily bad, just means he's determined, you want to watch for him starting to escalate into hysteria, barking while struggling at the end of the leash, slipping and falling while basically throwing a temper tantrum. he would not look like he's having fun, he would look frustrated, restless, nervous even. Or he may be perfectly fine. It's something to try, even if he's fine it's good practice for him to be patient. When he settles give a release word an let him go to his treat.

As for agility, right now I would just start with some basic stuff like sit and down and focus (look right at your face). You can work on building his confidence as well, many dogs are nervous at first abut walking on teeter totters or jumping bars etc. So get him used to different things like that. Right now his balance might not be good enough to walk on planks but just getting him to walk over a bar on the ground and on different materials and textures (including things that are not all that sturdy, as a teeter totter would not be) will get him used to that, always keep is short and fun. If you go for a walk in the woods and you see a fallen log or something encourage him to jump on it. Any opportunities, jump up on a bench in the park or go down a short little kids slide at the playground (make sure you have control of him so he does not stumble) etc. Anything that socializes him with "new" is good, remember praise at the end. Drop something on the ground and praise him for not getting scared. All these things build confidence and socialize him.

He crate is large enough for him to sit in, turn around and stretch all the way out.
He normally poops 2-4 times a day. He eats at 8am in the morning, noon-1pm in the afternoon and at 6pm.
I know how to do the housetraining method you suggested.

I understand you, and many others, are concerned with him not being with his mom now. I know he could POSSIBLY do all of those things you listed, but if that happens I can train him and/or get help training him.
Thanks for the agility help.
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:33 AM
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Is there a pad in the crate with him. If so take it out. He really won't mind laying on just the floor of the crate for a few weeks. Also my pup was peeing more then normal I told the vet about it and he said it's nothing and I was like are you sure I know puppies and she seems abnormal to me. He finally did the blood work and we found out that she had a kidney infection. It could of killed her. So you may want to run that by your vet again just to make sure. For your second or third question. The one about the pooping. Dogs don't always poop after they eat but if your going to catch them that is a good time also early in the morning.
Your pup is still a pup there is going to be accidents have lots of Natures Maricle on hand.
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:48 AM
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Thanks blackcat and I will def run that by my vet again.
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About the pooping - some dogs have trouble pottying in a new place. When I taught group training classes it was especially frustrating - dogs wouldn't go outside before class, so during class they would REALLY have to go and then just go on the floor. So, it's normal that he doesn't poop in a new place, just do as Maxy said, keep a close eye on him to make sure he doesn't hide to have an accident.
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:25 PM
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GOOD NEWS!
Bear pooped outside this morning at about 2am and then again at noon and again at 7pm!!! I am so happy!
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Doing a happy poop dance for you !
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I heard you have to be really careful with your foot work when doing the happy poop dance.
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