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Old 09-02-2004, 09:36 PM
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Yep, Dad decided at the last minute that he didn't like Bruiser and handed the naming responsibility over to me..

Haahahaha! A Fila would certainly complete the pack... 4 more years, and I'll be able to have any dog I want.. I'd LOVE to add a Fila to the family.. I just love them to pieces.
Hey, maybe Shiva or Kharma will be the dam of the Fila I get! I certainly am planning on getting one once I move out, since I'll be living alone.. You never know, hmm?
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:39 AM
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Maybe . . . A pup out of Shiva or one of her pups would have a real probability of being an excellent, social family dog. She's a year old now, and she's still a big sweetie. I'm going to give her a few more months to mature and then see about getting her certified as a therapy dog at the University of Tennessee. It's impossible to pass by her without a pet or, more often, a big hug. She's just the most demonstrably affectionate dog I've ever seen, but she's still a great guardian.

Something out of Kharma would definitely give Ripley - and especially Dakota - plenty of work! I can just imagine Kharma and a Border Collie competing to see who would herd who!

Oh, you'd have laughed at me Tuesday night! We had to haul some calves to the stock barn Wednesday morning, so we went over to Charley's cousin, Bob's farm to borrow his cattle trailer. He had a half dozen new heifers in the field where the trailer is stored, and he'd warned us that they would try to follow the trailer out. So . . . my job was to keep the heifers inside. We took Shiva, thinking she'd be calmer and easier to handle than Kharma (since Kharma's a herding fiend - she doesn't want to stop until she's got everyone into one group exactly where she wants them to be), and I just kept her on the leash with me to intimidate the heifers. We got them down the hill from the barn, in a group, and then had to figure out how to keep them there when Charley started pulling the trailer out. Shiva stood beside me, and I just stood there, slightly crouched, and stared at them. They didn't even flinch! I didn't look away, so when Charley got the trailer out and the gate pulled close, he had to yell to tell me he was done. He commented on what a good job we'd done keeping the heifers in one place, and I got the giggles; it suddenly occured to me that I made a very good Border Collie - using 'The Stare' to keep them from moving! (rofl)
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LOL, I had to stare our calves down a couple of times when I was 10, and our gate broke.. It works pretty well, they really don't know that you won't nip at their heels if they move.
This border collie has that 'stare' already.. He'll stare directly at a toy, and he's already starting to run in circles around me, staring..

From the way Shiva sounds, she'd be a good therapy dog. I'm hoping Dakota will continue this puppy friendliness, so I can get him into therapy. Ripley... hahaha. He's such a little snot, he'd probably growl at everyone and do all he could to make sure they didn't touch him.
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Whoah MAN...

I looked a little deeper into this site www.bordercollies.org and they completely bash anyone who has a Border Collie registered in the AKC.. They also bash AKC conformation champions who have MULTIPLE HERDING TITLES.
Ok, I just don't get it. What's so wrong with having a dog who is not only good in temperament and working drive but good in another field as well? I agree that showing in conformation is a shallow thing to do, but if the dog has beauty AND brains, why wouldn't you want to have both proven?
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It probably has more to do with the AKC's propensity for twiddling with breed standards and putting so much emphasis on show lines that working bloodlines are falling by the wayside.

Just look at so many of the great working breeds that are now in jeopardy of losing their working abilities and heritage due to the emphasis on breeding show lines.

That said, it reflects very poorly on an organization to make the bashing personal. It's also much more effective to state your case in a calm, rational manner, giving your audience some credit for being intelligent enough to accept a thoughtful, well presented position.

There's nothing wrong at all with having a great physical specimen that's also intelligent and retains a strong work ethic. That should be the ideal.
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I wanna join those boards because I want to talk to more people with BC's, but I'm scared to. LOL.

I do see what they're getting at.. So many breeds are incapable of serving their originally desired purpose now, thanks to show breeders (I won't even get into BYB. I think everyone knows my opinion on them by now.) who don't respect the fact that this is supposed to be working dog...

**shrug** I don't think there will ever be peace with AKC ethics vs. breed enthusiasts..
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Some of the Fila boards are like that. You get some real strange ones sometimes, and I think some of the people have more ojeriza than their dogs! (lol) Just keep cruising around until you find people you're comfortable with.
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